From: Eun Jung Gonzalez <info@mutednarrative.com>
Date: September 15, 2005 3:12:55 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: seoul, korea tips?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Do not miss out Korean bath houses when you are in Korea.  I took  
dancers (american) and my husband (puertorican) there a couple of  
years ago and they were absolutely in LOVE with spending time in  
Korean bath house.  It is called "Jjim-jil-bang".  You might have to  
ask around which ones are the best ones and they are all over, open  
24 hours a day 7days a week.  It is the best place to go especially  
after you get off of a 14 hour flight.

Another place I would recommend is visitng Kyung-Joo and Andong Ha- 
Heh-ma-eul (I have no idea how else to write it in English) if you  
are interested in seeing some very old historical sites.  Also, I  
would recommend that you would go to the West coast of Korea.  It is  
not a preferable place to swim, but some place like, "Kae-hwa", "sam- 
chun-po", "suh-po" have muddy bays and the scenery in these places is  
something else.  The Yellow Sea is located between China and the  
Korean Peninsula and the name comes from the sand particles that  
color its water, originating from the yellow river.  I didn't  
appreciate the beauty of the west coastline until I grew older.....

Have a great trip!!

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From: Alicia L Cervini <itp@frimfram.com>
Date: September 15, 2005 3:17:13 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Martha Stewart's prison tapes
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I just thought I'd share this with you all.  Sometimes I feel like I  
work in crazyland.

/alicia

-----Original Message-----
From: David Lyle
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:41 AM
To: Bob Boden
Subject: Martha Stewart and the Real Reality

Bob,
Continuing the discussion - I'm told that the public areas; dayrooms  
and such of Alderson are/were covered by a number of cameras and the  
footage should be available to us under freedom of information. After  
all, it is a federal government institution...our taxes etc

This surely is the Real reality of Martha Stewart. Forget her  
apprentice or the syndication show. The prison footage would be  
Martha Stewart's version of Big Brother, or maybe with her and the  
prisoners it would be more Surreal World. It's not Inside Martha  
Stewart. It's Martha Stewart Inside. If there isn't enogh action for  
a series or special (how many ways are there to dress up a prison  
uniform) then how about a segment of "Martha's Time" for our Reality  
Remix Show ?

David

COO & General Manager
FOX REALITY
1440 S. Sepulveda Blvd., 2nd Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90025
www.foxreality.com
From: Midori Yasuda <midori.yasuda@nyu.edu>
Date: September 15, 2005 3:52:46 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: reminder: RECRUIT: Yahoo! Inc for FT jobs in California
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


This recruitment event is specifically targeted towards alumni! You  
are all invited to attend! There is still space available, RSVP today!



ITP RECRUITMENT - Yahoo! Inc.
This Friday, September 16
2-3pm, conference room
RSVP required to itp.rsvp@nyu.edu


We apologize for the short notice, but we have just organized a last- 
minute Yahoo recruitment event here on Friday the 16th at 2 pm --  
their Design Manager for the Personalization Products Group will be  
here to speak about working at Yahoo!, and to discuss this new  
recruitment drive which seeks to fill a number of open positions  
based in California. Yahoo's position announcement follows below.

Please join us for this exciting opportunity! You MUST RSVP to this  
address: itp.rsvp@nyu.edu -- you will receive a confirmation from  
Gloria with the specific room location.

(For those who cannot attend, feel free to apply directly to Joy  
Mountford at Yahoo at the address indicated on the announcement.)

----

DESCRIPTION
Yahoo! Inc. is looking for experienced Interaction Designers to join  
the Front Page (www.yahoo.com), My Yahoo! (my.yahoo.com), and  
Personalization Prdoucts' User Experience Design Group. The  
Interaction Designers will help lead design efforts on a variety of  
new and existing projects in a creative, collaborative, fast-paced  
environment. You will work very closely with visual designers,  
usability researchers, product managers, web developers and engineers  
to create BIG, immersive, innovative concepts that engage a wide  
variety of users. We have the world's attention and we want you to  
help us make the next generation Front Page more engaging. You should  
bring a wide array of tools to articulate ideas visually, vocally and  
diagrammatically. Technically, they are just two pages, but they're  
BIG ones. Think BIG. Talk BIG. Design BIG. Implement BIG.

PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDE:
- Applying user-centered design processes to create high quality user  
experiences
- Very strong understanding of visual design principles and it's  
influence on the final product
- Working closely with product managers and developers to define  
product direction and UI requirements
- Scoping, planning and managing multiple design projects from  
strategic product definition to launch
- Designing interaction models, workflows, and sexy user interfaces
- Experience working with usability researchers to influence design  
decisions
- Authoring design specifications

EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:
- Degree in Human Factors, HCI, Graphic Design, industrial Design, or  
related area
- At least 3 years professional experience as a key member of a user  
interface/product design team
- Mastery of UCD principles and interaction design and strong visual  
design skills
- Must have solid understanding of Web site design, and working  
familiarity with HTML
- Must be able to develop innovative approaches to complex design  
problems
- Must be able to collaborate actively as part of a multi-  
disciplinary team
- Must have excellent interpersonal and communication skills
- Must have strong analytical and leadership skills
- Must be organized, able to act independently (self-starter), and  
able to switch rapidly between different projects in a fast-paced  
environment

LOCATION:
Sunnyvale, CA
Also have a number of UE positions opening in Santa Monica, CA

CONTACT:
Joy Mountford, mjoy@yahoo-inc.com
http://careers.yahoo.com/</x-flowed>


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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Benjamin Gonzalez  
<ben@mutednarrative.com>
Date: September 15, 2005 4:57:03 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: backing up a mixed network
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I am looking for back up software to back up a Windows server and  
mixed OSX and windows clients on to a tape system. Our contractor  
recommended Veritas Backup Exec 10.0. Can anyone let me know if they  
have had experience with this software, or give one they recommend.

Thanks

Ben
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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Benjamin Gonzalez  
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Date: September 15, 2005 4:18:17 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: p.comp list
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hey I am looking to join the p.comp list.  I know there was a website I
could do that in but I forgot.  Could someone please give me the url  
to the
website so I can join it.  Thanks

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From: Stacey Chevalier Kerr <staceychev@gmail.com>
Date: September 15, 2005 4:57:42 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: p.comp list
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Do you mean forums.nyu.edu? I don't remember what the name of the  
pcomp list is, though.

On 9/15/05, Benjamin Gonzalez <ben@mutednarrative.com> wrote:
Hey I am looking to join the p.comp list.I know there was a  
website I
could do that in but I forgot.Could someone please give me the url  
to the
website so I can join it.Thanks

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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Eric Forman <itp@ericforman.com>
Date: September 15, 2005 5:02:57 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: p.comp list
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

phys-comp

On Sep 15, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Stacey Chevalier Kerr wrote:

> Do you mean forums.nyu.edu? I don't remember what the name of the  
> pcomp list is, though.
>
> On 9/15/05, Benjamin Gonzalez <ben@mutednarrative.com> wrote:Hey I  
> am looking to join the p.comp list.  I know there was a website I
> could do that in but I forgot.  Could someone please give me the  
> url to the
> website so I can join it.  Thanks
>
> Ben
>
>
>
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From: Benjamin Gonzalez <ben@mutednarrative.com>
Date: September 15, 2005 5:07:36 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: p.comp list
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Thanks.

Ben


From: Stacey Chevalier Kerr [mailto:staceychev@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:58 PM
To: ITP Alumni
Subject: Re: p.comp list

Do you mean forums.nyu.edu? I don't remember what the name of the  
pcomp list is, though.
On 9/15/05, Benjamin Gonzalez <ben@mutednarrative.com> wrote:
Hey I am looking to join the p.comp list.I know there was a  
website I
could do that in but I forgot.Could someone please give me the url  
to the
website so I can join it.Thanks

Ben



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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Midori Yasuda  
<midori.yasuda@nyu.edu>
Date: September 15, 2005 5:28:08 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: REVISED DATES -- Call for Abstracts: IBM Research HCI Symposium
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


  Please note: We've had to revise our dates to avoid conflicts with ACM
  Group 2005
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
  ----------------------------
  The 2nd Annual IBM TJ Watson HCI Symposium November 18, 2005
  As We May Work: Advancing Social Technologies for the Distributed
  Enterprise

  Call for Abstracts (Graduate Students Only)
  The structure of organizations is being rapidly transformed:
  Increases in
  mobile workers, globally distributed teams, and federated
  enterprises are
  changing the environment in which we work.  These and other factors
  disrupt
  workers' established means of knowing within the enterprise and
  create new
  challenges and opportunities for them.  Social technologies offer
  means for
  evolving more suitable work practices that flexibly draw on
  distributed
  expertise. These include technologies that support interaction with
  known
  colleagues as well as technologies that seek to leverage the
  knowledge and
  expertise of strangers.  This symposium seeks to provide rich and
  analytical descriptions of how these important advances are
  transforming
  enterprises, describe the technologies on which these advances
  rest, and
  prognosticate what trends will emerge in unlocking the collaborative
  potential of enterprises.

  Example topics:
   Expertise brokers and connectors
   Blogs and wikis for professional reputation creation and
  distribution of
  information
   Technologies that enable more productive distributed work
   Socially-aware code management systems
   Social network visualization to compound social capital
   Collaborative augmentation of Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP)
  systems
   Technologies to better support mobile workers
   Technologies that better mobilize the collective intelligence of an
  enterprise

  Participants
  We are seeking contributions from currently matriculated graduate
  students,
  particularly those in departments of Human Computer Interaction,
  Computer
  Science, Management Science, Organizational Science, and Learning
  Sciences.
  Students are asked to submit an extended abstract (1000 words)
  describing
  their work, a current CV, and a supporting letter from their advisor.
  Students whose abstracts are accepted will be provided with limited
  travel
  funds.

  Dates (Please note revised dates)
  Submission deadline:          October 10, 2005
  Acceptance notification:      October  24, 2005
  Symposium date:         November 18, 2005

  Email abstracts and supporting documentation to:
  Catalina Danis (danis@us.ibm.com) or Douglas Gordin
  (dgordin@us.ibm.com)

  Douglas Gordin, PhD
  IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
  19 Skyline Drive
  Hawthorne, NY  10532
  Voice: 914.784.7806
  dgordin@us.ibm.com

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From: Midori Yasuda <midori.yasuda@nyu.edu>
Date: September 15, 2005 5:33:12 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: JOB: Gig Alert: E-Commerce Marketing Manager for Financial  
News website
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


September 15, 2005



E-Commerce Marketing Manager for Financial News website

E-Commerce Marketing Manager
Position: E-Commerce Marketing Manager
Client: Financial News and Information Website
Location: NYC Midtown
Type: Full-time Hire

The Hired Guns are searching for an E-Commerce Marketing Manager for  
our client, a major financial news and information web site, to  
create and execute marketing campaigns for a variety of personal  
investing related products.

As the E-Commerce Marketing Manager, your role will be to drive the  
use of a variety of digital products online (i.e. an online stock  
screener or a stock research report). You will be responsible for  
attracting new subscribers as well as retaining them. You will also  
be responsible for increasing trial and repeat usage of pay-per-use  
products.

The ideal candidate will have solid experience in the tactical world  
of online marketing. In your bag of tricks, you will need to have  
experience with online banner campaign development, email marketing  
and search engine marketing (SEM). While a background that includes  
experience in financial investing is optimal, it is not  
required. What we do require is someone with 3-5 years experience  
of hands-on, functional experience marketing digital products online.

You will be responsible for managing the development and execution of  
the campaigns, including the following aspects:
* Creative/design with the in-house design team
* Copy development
* Test versions of messages and ads
* Campaign measurement and tracking (including getting the data and  
managing it in a campaign management system)
* Customer segmentation
* Customer acquisition / ROI analysis

Key Skills/Experience
In order to meet the objectives outlined above, the following skills  
should be demonstrated:
* Experience in growing revenues and/or customer base through direct  
email marketing
* Experience with email marketing as an audience acquisition tool
* Experience with marketing paid content (or other digital goods online)
* Knowledge of user interface design as related to online purchasing  
 landing page, order process, etc.
* Strong writing skills

HOW TO APPLY:
To be considered, please provide a brief case study demonstrating  
your greatest return on investment (ROI) success story (we are  
looking for info such as: what was the business challenge, the  
product, what was your message strategy, why did you go that  
direction, results).

Please make sure you meet the minimum requirements listed above.  
Email us a cover letter (required) with your most recent resume  
attached. The cover letter should detail your experience relevant to  
this opportunity and include the reasons for your interest in the  
position. Attachments should be Microsoft Word only (no PDFs or  
other formats, please).

Please email all cover letters and resumes  
to: ecommerce@thehiredguns.com. (Please do not reply to this email.)

Due to the narrowly defined objectives and criteria established by  
the client, only candidates with experience directly relevant to this  
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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: dima farer <dima.farer@gmail.com>
Date: September 15, 2005 6:06:48 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Oxford medical insurance
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

hello,

my job is offering oxford medical insurance, anyone have any really  
good or bad experience with them?

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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Carlos J. Gmez de Llarena  
<informed44@gmail.com>
Date: September 15, 2005 6:29:55 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Oxford medical insurance
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

i got oxford and most people here have it as well.
i've used the service a couple of times - i have no complaints and it  
has a reasonable price.

On 9/15/05, dima farer < dima.farer@gmail.com> wrote:
hello,

my job is offering oxford medical insurance, anyone have any really  
good or bad experience with them?

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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Lisa Pedicini  
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Date: September 15, 2005 7:20:04 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Oxford medical insurance
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Oxford for groups seems okay. Oxford for the self-employed is  
dreadful. It is called Oxford Liberty, and Oxford won't let you pay  
more to join one of their groups if you are self-employed. You are  
stuck with Liberty. NYU Hospital (Tisch) won't even admit you if  
that's what you've got. Many of the doctors who used to accept  
Liberty won't any longer. They explain that Liberty coverage  
reimburses doctors at a rate lower than medicare's rate. I had a knee/ 
skiing/ER moment in February that Oxford still hasn't paid for. They  
won't pay me although Vail Hospital wouldn't accept their card so I  
had to pay in full to leave. For unexplained reasons, they won't pay  
the hospital either.

At 6:29 PM -0400 9/15/05, Carlos J. Gmez de Llarena wrote:
i got oxford and most people here have it as well.
i've used the service a couple of times - i have no complaints and it  
has a reasonable price.
On 9/15/05, dima farer < dima.farer@gmail.com> wrote:
hello,

my job is offering oxford medical insurance, anyone have any really  
good or bad experience with them?

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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: "evan.raskob"  
<lists@lowfrequency.org>
Date: September 15, 2005 7:39:21 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: stupid, stupid question
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

this is a completely embarrassing question, BUT - when you say  
Master's degree do you say "Master's degree" or "Masters' Degree" or  
"Masters degree?"

I never know which one to write on my resume. (Although I usually use  
the first case)
Does that mean I have to give it back?


-ev


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From: | maria | <new@thatproject.com>
Date: September 15, 2005 8:13:06 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: stupid, stupid question
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Master's degree

On Sep 15, 2005, at 7:39 PM, evan.raskob wrote:

> this is a completely embarrassing question, BUT - when you say  
> Master's degree do you say "Master's degree" or "Masters' Degree"  
> or "Masters degree?"
>
> I never know which one to write on my resume. (Although I usually  
> use the first case)
> Does that mean I have to give it back?
>
>
> -ev
>
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From: jonathan goldstein <jg956@nyu.edu>
Date: September 15, 2005 11:13:36 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: DC Videoblogging Teach In
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

What

A panel about videoblogging that at the Tysons Corner Apple Store
(just outside of D.C. in Virginia). We will demonstrate what a
videoblog is, how to make one, the ways videoblogs can be used by
advocacy groups to move their agendas forward,and how to use a
videoblog to influence people in power. The panel will include  a video
artist and a
political communications consultant, addition to myself. We will stick
around afterwards
to answer any questions.

When: 1-2PM, Saturday, Sept 17.

Where:
1961 Chainbridge Road
McLean, VA 22102
(703) 893-5055

Directions:

http://www.apple.com/retail/tysons/map/

If you have any interest in videoblogging, this event will be a great
way to learn more about this rapidly evolving,  powerful, personal
media platform.

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From: Carlyn Maw <carlyn@nyu.edu>
Date: September 16, 2005 8:42:30 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Fwd: Opportunities with Net Impact
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Not totally up the Technology Alley - but it is a great company in  
San Francisco, with good values run by someone I can personally  
certify as on the ball and cool! (my sister rocks.)

I would do the print ad myself, but I haven't done print since 1997  
and I'll end up using web-safe colors or something silly...

Let me know if anyone is interested...

Hi Friends,

Net Impact is currently looking for two important roles. Please  
forward to anyone you think might be interested!

Print Ad Campaign Design

For the first time, Net Impact is launching a print ad campaign. We  
have already secured space in several high profile magazines, but we  
need help creating the print ad portfolio. Ideally there is a  
designer out there who would like to create our ad portfolio pro  
bono,. Their work would appear in Worthwhile Magazine, Sustainable  
Industries Journal, Business Ethics, Time Magazine (potentially!),  
our annual guidebook and beyond! Please email me if you or someone  
you know is interested.

Development Director

We are currently looking for a full time Development Director to join  
our dynamic and exciting management team. This persons  
responsibilities would include designing strategy for corporate  
sponsorships; researching and writing foundation grant materials;  
cultivating and developing relationships with key contacts; and  
more. Salary is competitive, benefits are excellent, and the  
organization is one with enormous potential. Click here for more  
information.


Thanks!
-Liz

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From: Sasha Harris-Cronin <sasha@mortalspaces.com>
Date: September 15, 2005 4:46:43 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: [travel] ahhh Prague...
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

It looks like all my favorite Prague Coffee Shops are gone, but  
here's one:

Cafe Meduza
Prague 2 - Vinohrady
Belgicka 17

Food:
Pizza Kmotra Kavrna (Tasty pizza)
V Jirch?ch 12, Praha 1

Kavarna Velryba (Open late.  Lots of veggie options)
Opatovicka, 24

Museums/Galleries:
Black Madonna House - Museum of Czech cubism - National Gallery (D?m  
U ?ern Matky Bo? - Muzeum ?eskho kubizmu)
Ovocn? trh 19/ Celetn 34
The Museum of Czech cubism called the Black Madonna House is a unique  
cubist building from 1911-1912 designed by Josef Gocar. The Museum  
was built at a place of the ruined old house (originally called House  
at the Black Madonna) belonging to Granovskys Knighthood. On the  
first floor of this fourth floor building, there used to be coffee  
lounge, very well-known mostly among artists.

Museum of Alfons Mucha (Muzeum Alfonza Muchy)
Pansk 7
A museum of Czechoslovakia's best-known art-nouveau artist, Alfons  
Mucha (1860-1934) is situated in the 18th century Kaunitz Palace in  
the very heart of Prague. The collection of Alfonz Mucha Museum  
includes lithographs, paintings, drawings, pastels, statues,  
photographs, sketchbooks and many of the Paris posters he created for  
Sarah Bernhardt. In the Museum, there is also a pleasant terrace caf  
and a shop offering exclusive selection of gifts with Alfons Mucha  
motifs.

Gambra
?ernnsk 5, Hrad?any, Praha 1, Tel: +420 220 514 527, Website:  
www.illumin.co.uk, Tram 22/23, Open: Mar-Oct noon-6pm Wed-Sun, Nov- 
Feb noon-5.30pm Sat/Sun, Closed all other days, Show Map
Owned by the surrealist animator Jan ?vankmajer, Gambra is, without  
doubt, one of Prague's most interesting galleries. Chock full of  
sculptures, ceramics and lithographs by both Jan and his wife Eva,  
the couple's work continues the tradition of Prague's well- 
established surrealist movement (which has existed in the city since  
the 1920s). Including works by Karel Baron and Eva Medkov, the  
gallery also carries books, videos, periodicals and prints relevant  
to the genre. Recommended.

Go see some theatre!
(By the by, all the theatres have cafes.)

STUDIO YPSILON (I did a show here)
Adress:     Splen 16
Praha 1
Phone:     292 255

DIVADLO NA ZABRADLI (The theatre where Vaclav Havel worked.  Really  
tasty food)
Adress:     Anensk nm?st 5
Praha 1
Phone:     2422 1933

DIVADLO ARCHA (they always get great avant garde theatre)
Adress:     Na po?? 26
Praha 1
Phone:     232 8800

DIVADLO V CELETNE (Ahhh...I did lots of shows here.)
Adress:     Celetn 17
Praha 1
Phone:     232 6843

LABYRINT STUDIO (they do serious quality stuff here.)
Adress:     ?tefnikova 57
Praha 5
Phone:     5732 1331

If you have time, go to Kostnice in Kutna Hora.  Its seriously creepy  
and cool.
http://www.kostnice.cz/

On Sep 15, 2005, at 10:15 AM, Sarah Michael wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
>
> Prague is beautiful; one of my favorite places. The architecture is
> amazing. I would suggest the obvious but truly spectacular Prague
> Castle which transports you into a Medieval village. There is a long
> windy walkway down the hill from the castle that when I was there had
> all these carts and booths of artists and crafts-makers.
>
> I also really enjoyed the Jewish Quarter's architecture, synagogues
> and then the lively booths and street entertainment, with music and
> performances. On a more somber note, the Jewish Museum's collection
> and conservation of children's drawings and art from Terezin is a just
> plain heartbreaking but not to be missed.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Sarah
>
> ___________________________
>
> s a r a h  m i c h a e l
> ___________________________
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Daniel Hirschmann <daniel@plankman.com>
> Date: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:59 am
> Subject: [travel] ahhh Prague...
>
>
>> Hey wonderful people,
>>
>> Does anyone have some awesome experience in or around Prague (In
>> fact
>> the whole Czech republic! ;-)
>> I would love to hear some suggestions / tips from travelers that
>> have
>> unforgettable memories (good / bad)
>>
>> Thanks to all,
>>
>> ~Daniel~
>>
>> ...................................
>>  +39-338-6455011
>>  fabrica interactive
>>    www.fabrica.it
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From: Daniel Hirschmann <daniel@plankman.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 5:39:10 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: [travel] ahhh Prague...
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Thank you all so kindly...

John,Betsy,Sarah and Sasha - You are fantastic!
WOOHOOO!!! Czech Republic, here I come  (as long as the visa arrives  
in time ...)

~Daniel~

PS: I know its said all the time... but I love this list... Ya'll  
share so freely.  Happy Friday.



> It looks like all my favorite Prague Coffee Shops are gone, but  
> here's one:
>
> Cafe Meduza
> Prague 2 - Vinohrady
> Belgicka 17
>
> Food:
> Pizza Kmotra Kavrna (Tasty pizza)
> V Jirch?ch 12, Praha 1
>
> Kavarna Velryba (Open late.  Lots of veggie options)
> Opatovicka, 24
>
> Museums/Galleries:
> Black Madonna House - Museum of Czech cubism - National Gallery  
> (D?m U ?ern Matky Bo? - Muzeum ?eskho kubizmu)
> Ovocn? trh 19/ Celetn 34
> The Museum of Czech cubism called the Black Madonna House is a  
> unique cubist building from 1911-1912 designed by Josef Gocar. The  
> Museum was built at a place of the ruined old house (originally  
> called House at the Black Madonna) belonging to Granovskys  
> Knighthood. On the first floor of this fourth floor building, there  
> used to be coffee lounge, very well-known mostly among artists.
>
> Museum of Alfons Mucha (Muzeum Alfonza Muchy)
> Pansk 7
> A museum of Czechoslovakia's best-known art-nouveau artist, Alfons  
> Mucha (1860-1934) is situated in the 18th century Kaunitz Palace in  
> the very heart of Prague. The collection of Alfonz Mucha Museum  
> includes lithographs, paintings, drawings, pastels, statues,  
> photographs, sketchbooks and many of the Paris posters he created  
> for Sarah Bernhardt. In the Museum, there is also a pleasant  
> terrace caf and a shop offering exclusive selection of gifts with  
> Alfons Mucha motifs.
>
> Gambra
> ?ernnsk 5, Hrad?any, Praha 1, Tel: +420 220 514 527, Website:  
> www.illumin.co.uk, Tram 22/23, Open: Mar-Oct noon-6pm Wed-Sun, Nov- 
> Feb noon-5.30pm Sat/Sun, Closed all other days, Show Map
> Owned by the surrealist animator Jan ?vankmajer, Gambra is, without  
> doubt, one of Prague's most interesting galleries. Chock full of  
> sculptures, ceramics and lithographs by both Jan and his wife Eva,  
> the couple's work continues the tradition of Prague's well- 
> established surrealist movement (which has existed in the city  
> since the 1920s). Including works by Karel Baron and Eva Medkov,  
> the gallery also carries books, videos, periodicals and prints  
> relevant to the genre. Recommended.
>
> Go see some theatre!
> (By the by, all the theatres have cafes.)
>
> STUDIO YPSILON (I did a show here)
> Adress:     Splen 16
> Praha 1
> Phone:     292 255
>
> DIVADLO NA ZABRADLI (The theatre where Vaclav Havel worked.  Really  
> tasty food)
> Adress:     Anensk nm?st 5
> Praha 1
> Phone:     2422 1933
>
> DIVADLO ARCHA (they always get great avant garde theatre)
> Adress:     Na po?? 26
> Praha 1
> Phone:     232 8800
>
> DIVADLO V CELETNE (Ahhh...I did lots of shows here.)
> Adress:     Celetn 17
> Praha 1
> Phone:     232 6843
>
> LABYRINT STUDIO (they do serious quality stuff here.)
> Adress:     ?tefnikova 57
> Praha 5
> Phone:     5732 1331
>
> If you have time, go to Kostnice in Kutna Hora.  Its seriously  
> creepy and cool.
> http://www.kostnice.cz/
>
> On Sep 15, 2005, at 10:15 AM, Sarah Michael wrote:
>
>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> Prague is beautiful; one of my favorite places. The architecture is
>> amazing. I would suggest the obvious but truly spectacular Prague
>> Castle which transports you into a Medieval village. There is a long
>> windy walkway down the hill from the castle that when I was there had
>> all these carts and booths of artists and crafts-makers.
>>
>> I also really enjoyed the Jewish Quarter's architecture, synagogues
>> and then the lively booths and street entertainment, with music and
>> performances. On a more somber note, the Jewish Museum's collection
>> and conservation of children's drawings and art from Terezin is a  
>> just
>> plain heartbreaking but not to be missed.
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>> ___________________________
>>
>> s a r a h  m i c h a e l
>> ___________________________
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Daniel Hirschmann <daniel@plankman.com>
>> Date: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:59 am
>> Subject: [travel] ahhh Prague...
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hey wonderful people,
>>>
>>> Does anyone have some awesome experience in or around Prague (In
>>> fact
>>> the whole Czech republic! ;-)
>>> I would love to hear some suggestions / tips from travelers that
>>> have
>>> unforgettable memories (good / bad)
>>>
>>> Thanks to all,
>>>
>>> ~Daniel~
>>>
>>> ...................................
>>>  +39-338-6455011
>>>  fabrica interactive
>>>    www.fabrica.it
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From: Doron <doron@nyu.edu>
Date: September 16, 2005 11:20:05 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: [travel] ahhh Prague...
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Ho, and one more thing.
The Czech girls are amazing !!!

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From: Midori Yasuda <midori.yasuda@nyu.edu>
Date: September 16, 2005 12:16:49 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: short sublet
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


Hey -

A friend of mine is coming to town and needs a place to stay for a  
few days.  Preferably a 2 bedroom apartment that can fit 2 couples  
and 1 baby, from Sept 28 to Oct 3.

Or 2 one-bedroom apartments can work as well.

Manhattan preferable, but they will consider other places.

Please email me directly.
thanks!
Midori.


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From: "jack . davis" <jack@panix.com>
Date: September 15, 2005 2:47:28 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: mic input to g4 powerbook
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Dear Listees,

hypothetically speaking, suppose someone wanted to use an external  
mic or
line audio input to his or her g4 laptop for, oh i don't know, recording
off of a turntable or something. is there any way to accomplish this? i
have inspected the entire 15" area of this machine and found no mini  
jacks
(save the headphone jack).  are there usb microphones or analog-to-usb
signal converters??


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From: Donny Tsang <donny@nyu.edu>
Date: September 15, 2005 6:08:39 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: mic input to g4 powerbook
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

look here at the picture...
http://www.apple.com/powerbook/

the line-in is next to the usb port

d
On Sep 15, 2005, at 11:47 AM, jack . davis wrote:

> Dear Listees,
>
> hypothetically speaking, suppose someone wanted to use an external  
> mic or
> line audio input to his or her g4 laptop for, oh i don't know,  
> recording
> off of a turntable or something. is there any way to accomplish  
> this? i
> have inspected the entire 15" area of this machine and found no  
> mini jacks
> (save the headphone jack).  are there usb microphones or analog-to-usb
> signal converters??
>
>
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From: joshua goldberg <josh@goldbergs.com>
Date: September 15, 2005 3:07:24 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: mic input to g4 powerbook
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

aha.  i bet you have a revision B tiBook, either 550mhz or 667mhz.

you have to use a usb or firewire solution.  apple, in their Infinite  
Fucking Wisdom, crippled that model and left the audio in jack out.

i had one too.  stupid bastiges.

On Sep 15, 2005, at 2:47 PM, jack . davis wrote:

> Dear Listees,
>
> hypothetically speaking, suppose someone wanted to use an external  
> mic or
> line audio input to his or her g4 laptop for, oh i don't know,  
> recording
> off of a turntable or something. is there any way to accomplish  
> this? i
> have inspected the entire 15" area of this machine and found no  
> mini jacks
> (save the headphone jack).  are there usb microphones or analog-to-usb
> signal converters??
>
>
> ---
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From: "jack . davis" <jack@panix.com>
Date: September 15, 2005 3:12:58 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: mic input to g4 powerbook
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

i guess i have an earlier model.  my usb ports are in the back, behind a
flip-down door. the only jack on the left side of my unit is the  
headphone
jack. (damn!)

> look here at the picture...
> http://www.apple.com/powerbook/
>
> the line-in is next to the usb port
>
> d
> On Sep 15, 2005, at 11:47 AM, jack . davis wrote:
>
>> Dear Listees,
>>
>> hypothetically speaking, suppose someone wanted to use an external  
>> mic
>> or
>> line audio input to his or her g4 laptop for, oh i don't know,
>> recording
>> off of a turntable or something. is there any way to accomplish  
>> this? i
>> have inspected the entire 15" area of this machine and found no mini
>> jacks
>> (save the headphone jack).  are there usb microphones or analog-to- 
>> usb
>> signal converters??
>>
>>
>> ---
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From: Manlio Lo Conte <manlio@gmail.com>
Date: September 15, 2005 3:14:14 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: mic input to g4 powerbook
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I've never personally used it, but I know scott fitz swears by his  
griffin
imic, which is a USB audio device that give you a mini jack for line  
in and
another for line out

It's pretty cheap on amazon, like under $30


-m

-----Original Message-----
From: joshua goldberg [mailto:josh@goldbergs.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 3:07 PM
To: ITP Alumni
Subject: Re: mic input to g4 powerbook

aha.  i bet you have a revision B tiBook, either 550mhz or 667mhz.

you have to use a usb or firewire solution.  apple, in their Infinite
Fucking Wisdom, crippled that model and left the audio in jack out.

i had one too.  stupid bastiges.

On Sep 15, 2005, at 2:47 PM, jack . davis wrote:

> Dear Listees,
>
> hypothetically speaking, suppose someone wanted to use an external
> mic or
> line audio input to his or her g4 laptop for, oh i don't know,
> recording
> off of a turntable or something. is there any way to accomplish
> this? i
> have inspected the entire 15" area of this machine and found no
> mini jacks
> (save the headphone jack).  are there usb microphones or analog-to-usb
> signal converters??
>
>
> ---
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From: "jack . davis" <jack@panix.com>
Date: September 15, 2005 3:29:50 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: mic input to g4 powerbook
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Thanks!  you'se are the best!

> I've never personally used it, but I know scott fitz swears by his  
> griffin
> imic, which is a USB audio device that give you a mini jack for  
> line in
> and
> another for line out
>
> It's pretty cheap on amazon, like under $30
>
>
> -m
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: joshua goldberg [mailto:josh@goldbergs.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 3:07 PM
> To: ITP Alumni
> Subject: Re: mic input to g4 powerbook
>
> aha.  i bet you have a revision B tiBook, either 550mhz or 667mhz.
>
> you have to use a usb or firewire solution.  apple, in their Infinite
> Fucking Wisdom, crippled that model and left the audio in jack out.
>
> i had one too.  stupid bastiges.
>
> On Sep 15, 2005, at 2:47 PM, jack . davis wrote:
>
>> Dear Listees,
>>
>> hypothetically speaking, suppose someone wanted to use an external
>> mic or
>> line audio input to his or her g4 laptop for, oh i don't know,
>> recording
>> off of a turntable or something. is there any way to accomplish
>> this? i
>> have inspected the entire 15" area of this machine and found no
>> mini jacks
>> (save the headphone jack).  are there usb microphones or analog-to- 
>> usb
>> signal converters??
>>
>>
>> ---
>> You are currently subscribed to itp-alumni as: wugmump@mac.com
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>
>
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>
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From: "Howard Greenstein (public)" <public@howardgreenstein.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 10:50:21 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: mic input to g4 powerbook
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Ok, different question. I have the current 12" powerbook - line in  
only, it seems.

Is there a way to get that input to take "mic in" - ie: use a cheapo  
desktop mic, instead of having to buy a USB thingy? The built-in Mic  
hole is not sufficient for podcasting/light recording.

Howard

joshua goldberg wrote:

> aha.  i bet you have a revision B tiBook, either 550mhz or 667mhz.
>
> you have to use a usb or firewire solution.  apple, in their  
> Infinite  Fucking Wisdom, crippled that model and left the audio in  
> jack out.
>
> i had one too.  stupid bastiges.
>
> On Sep 15, 2005, at 2:47 PM, jack . davis wrote:
>
>> Dear Listees,
>>
>> hypothetically speaking, suppose someone wanted to use an  
>> external  mic or
>> line audio input to his or her g4 laptop for, oh i don't know,   
>> recording
>> off of a turntable or something. is there any way to accomplish   
>> this? i
>> have inspected the entire 15" area of this machine and found no   
>> mini jacks
>> (save the headphone jack).  are there usb microphones or analog-to- 
>> usb
>> signal converters??
>>
>>
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From: "evan.raskob" <lists@lowfrequency.org>
Date: September 16, 2005 12:22:05 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: mic input to g4 powerbook
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

if you want one, i have an extra lying around. $15

On Sep 15, 2005, at 3:29 PM, jack . davis wrote:

> Thanks!  you'se are the best!
>
>> I've never personally used it, but I know scott fitz swears by his  
>> griffin
>> imic, which is a USB audio device that give you a mini jack for  
>> line in
>> and
>> another for line out
>>
>> It's pretty cheap on amazon, like under $30
>>
>>
>> -m
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: joshua goldberg [mailto:josh@goldbergs.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 3:07 PM
>> To: ITP Alumni
>> Subject: Re: mic input to g4 powerbook
>>
>> aha.  i bet you have a revision B tiBook, either 550mhz or 667mhz.
>>
>> you have to use a usb or firewire solution.  apple, in their Infinite
>> Fucking Wisdom, crippled that model and left the audio in jack out.
>>
>> i had one too.  stupid bastiges.
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2005, at 2:47 PM, jack . davis wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Listees,
>>>
>>> hypothetically speaking, suppose someone wanted to use an external
>>> mic or
>>> line audio input to his or her g4 laptop for, oh i don't know,
>>> recording
>>> off of a turntable or something. is there any way to accomplish
>>> this? i
>>> have inspected the entire 15" area of this machine and found no
>>> mini jacks
>>> (save the headphone jack).  are there usb microphones or analog- 
>>> to-usb
>>> signal converters??
>>>
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From: "jack . davis" <jack@panix.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 12:25:48 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: mic input to g4 powerbook
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

got one coming in the mail... thanks anyway...

> if you want one, i have an extra lying around. $15
>
> On Sep 15, 2005, at 3:29 PM, jack . davis wrote:
>
>> Thanks!  you'se are the best!
>>
>>> I've never personally used it, but I know scott fitz swears by his
>>> griffin
>>> imic, which is a USB audio device that give you a mini jack for line
>>> in
>>> and
>>> another for line out
>>>
>>> It's pretty cheap on amazon, like under $30
>>>
>>>
>>> -m
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: joshua goldberg [mailto:josh@goldbergs.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 3:07 PM
>>> To: ITP Alumni
>>> Subject: Re: mic input to g4 powerbook
>>>
>>> aha.  i bet you have a revision B tiBook, either 550mhz or 667mhz.
>>>
>>> you have to use a usb or firewire solution.  apple, in their  
>>> Infinite
>>> Fucking Wisdom, crippled that model and left the audio in jack out.
>>>
>>> i had one too.  stupid bastiges.
>>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2005, at 2:47 PM, jack . davis wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Listees,
>>>>
>>>> hypothetically speaking, suppose someone wanted to use an external
>>>> mic or
>>>> line audio input to his or her g4 laptop for, oh i don't know,
>>>> recording
>>>> off of a turntable or something. is there any way to accomplish
>>>> this? i
>>>> have inspected the entire 15" area of this machine and found no
>>>> mini jacks
>>>> (save the headphone jack).  are there usb microphones or
>>>> analog-to-usb
>>>> signal converters??
>>>>
>>>>
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From: jen@jenlevin.net
Date: September 15, 2005 3:59:25 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: taking video of cell phones
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>




Hi List,

I need to get video documentation of various cell phone interfaces.
Currently, I am using the studio camera wich is a just point and  
shoot camera
that only takes 320 by 240, and it is difficult to focus on the screen.

Does anyone have experience taking video of screen-based subjects? I  
need t o
see the graphics on the screen plus the user's hands pressing hard  
buttons.

Is there a reasonably priced digital video camera (around 500-800)  
that can
sync up with the screen.

Any help would be very, very much appreciated

thanks
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From: fleeta j <fleeta-itp@sens.eu.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 4:42:13 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: taking video of cell phones
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

You need to be able to get closeup- like to within 3-5 inches of your  
subject. I used a Panasonic DVX100a with no problems. Refresh rate  
was not a problem for me, plus the DVX has variable shutter rates.

It aint 5-800 though. More like 2500. I bet some of the Sony's in  
this range will have variable shutter rates and manual focus, not  
sure about the range though...

peace,fleeta

On Sep 15, 2005, at 8:59 PM, <jen@jenlevin.net> <jen@jenlevin.net>  
wrote:

>
>
>
> Hi List,
>
> I need to get video documentation of various cell phone interfaces.
> Currently, I am using the studio camera wich is a just point and  
> shoot camera
> that only takes 320 by 240, and it is difficult to focus on the  
> screen.
>
> Does anyone have experience taking video of screen-based subjects?  
> I need t o
> see the graphics on the screen plus the user's hands pressing hard  
> buttons.
>
> Is there a reasonably priced digital video camera (around 500-800)  
> that can
> sync up with the screen.
>
> Any help would be very, very much appreciated
>
> thanks
> Jen Levin
>
>
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From: jen@jenlevin.net
Date: September 16, 2005 1:08:05 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: taking video of cell phones
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thanks for you help!
-Jen



fleeta j <fleeta-itp@sens.eu.com> said:

> You need to be able to get closeup- like to within 3-5 inches of your
> subject. I used a Panasonic DVX100a with no problems. Refresh rate
> was not a problem for me, plus the DVX has variable shutter rates.
>
> It aint 5-800 though. More like 2500. I bet some of the Sony's in
> this range will have variable shutter rates and manual focus, not
> sure about the range though...
>
> peace,fleeta
>
> On Sep 15, 2005, at 8:59 PM, <jen@jenlevin.net> <jen@jenlevin.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi List,
>>
>> I need to get video documentation of various cell phone interfaces.
>> Currently, I am using the studio camera wich is a just point and
>> shoot camera
>> that only takes 320 by 240, and it is difficult to focus on the
>> screen.
>>
>> Does anyone have experience taking video of screen-based subjects?
>> I need t o
>> see the graphics on the screen plus the user's hands pressing hard
>> buttons.
>>
>> Is there a reasonably priced digital video camera (around 500-800)
>> that can
>> sync up with the screen.
>>
>> Any help would be very, very much appreciated
>>
>> thanks
>> Jen Levin
>>
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From: Stacey Chevalier Kerr <staceychev@gmail.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 10:31:29 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Help: XP laptop (wireless) on Airport network
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I'm trying to get my mom's laptop, running Windows XP, onto my  
wireless network. The laptop sees and connects to the network. It's  
getting a valid IP from the router (Airport Express base station).  
But, it's not seeing the internet. It's been a long time since I've  
been a PC person (I'm starting to remember why!) so I don't know if  
I'm missing a crucial step.

Any hints?

Stacey
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Date: September 16, 2005 1:24:53 PM EDT
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Subject: RE: Help: XP laptop (wireless) on Airport network
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I had issues with this...
Is mom up to date w/service packs (need at least SP1 for wireless  
networking, I believe). SP2 is prolly not a bad idea.

ESN


From: Stacey Chevalier Kerr [mailto:staceychev@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 10:31 AM
To: ITP Alumni
Subject: Help: XP laptop (wireless) on Airport network


I'm trying to get my mom's laptop, running Windows XP, onto my  
wireless network. The laptop sees and connects to the network. It's  
getting a valid IP from the router (Airport Express base station).  
But, it's not seeing the internet. It's been a long time since I've  
been a PC person (I'm starting to remember why!) so I don't know if  
I'm missing a crucial step.

Any hints?

Stacey
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<public@howardgreenstein.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 1:39:40 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Help: XP laptop (wireless) on Airport network
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Ok, you're seeing it's getting an IP, but can't reach the net

Try setting an IP, Router and DNS manually?
Start..control panel...network settings...the wireless  
connection....right click and get it's properties

In the middle on the "general tab" click "internet protocol"
Use the "Use the following ip address" - type in a valid one for your  
net - default gateway is your Airport router.
Use the following DNS - you should be able to see that from another  
machine...

in the Authentication tab make sure 802.1X is off.

Always play with this stuff with WEP off  on your airport - if it  
works without authentication and doesn't with authentication then  
google on WEP Airport and the wifi card or laptop your mom has and  
see if anyone else solved the problem...



Eric Nadler wrote:

> I had issues with this...
> Is mom up to date w/service packs (need at least SP1 for wireless  
> networking, I believe). SP2 is prolly not a bad idea.
>  ESN
>
>      
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
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>     *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2005 10:31 AM
>     *To:* ITP Alumni
>     *Subject:* Help: XP laptop (wireless) on Airport network
>
>     I'm trying to get my mom's laptop, running Windows XP, onto my
>     wireless network. The laptop sees and connects to the network.
>     It's getting a valid IP from the router (Airport Express base
>     station). But, it's not seeing the internet. It's been a long time
>     since I've been a PC person (I'm starting to remember why!) so I
>     don't know if I'm missing a crucial step.
>
>     Any hints?
>
>     Stacey
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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 15, 2005 8:56:57 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: peace?
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okay, i'll admit it.  i'm thoroughly confused by ariel sharon.
he starts as a hawk, with strong-arm diplomacy.
he pisses off his own party.
he builds a massive wall through many israeli and palestinian  
communities.
he orders the gaza pullout and removes some settlements.
now he says he wants peace between israel and palestine.
he says jerusalem belongs to israel, period.

i feel like he's all over the map.  i often think he's a prick.  on  
the other hand, sometimes i think what he's doing is great, but i'm  
always skeptical and i feel like there's something i'm missing.

can anyone explain what is going on with sharon?  biased opinions are  
as welcome as even ones.

-eric


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From: Amos Bloomberg <ab1258@nyu.edu>
Date: September 16, 2005 4:32:27 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: peace?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Giving up Gaza is hardly as profound in the Jewish psyche as giving up
Jerusalem!

Every year, when Jews celebrate Passover, they reminisce about the exile
their ancestors faced, and they say "next year in Jerusalem".  They mean
that things may be less than dandy here now, but one day Jews will  
return
to occupy that sweet promised land.
cally, given the unpopularity of the forever stagnant peace talks.
Zionists, being very down to earth people, took that literally and  
settled
Jerusalem.  Most of your non-Israeli Jewish friends from ITP take a more
abstract symbolic view of the concept of a promised land and think of  
the
real Jerusalem as a nice place for a sweltering ethnic vacation.

So for Sharon to pull out the settlements, build a wall, contain the
Palestinians, force a Jewish majority population within Israel "proper",
and patrol clear borders for suicide bombers is relatively easy
politically compared to giving up the symbol of Jewish identity.

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From: jonathan goldstein <jg956@nyu.edu>
Date: September 16, 2005 10:07:16 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: peace?
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I'm not as connected to the Israeli political scene as I used to be,  
so I
make no claims to know what is going on in Sharon's head, but Gaza  
was big
headache for Israel, and not particularly strategically important, so it
made sense to get out.

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From: Doron <doron@nyu.edu>
Date: September 16, 2005 11:12:20 AM EDT
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Subject: Re: peace?
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Nobody really understands Sharon these days. (Except maybe his best  
friend
in the world, George W. Bush).
The Israeli right wing (and the right wing part of his ?Likud?  
party, the
so called ?rebels?) is very upset with his redrew from Gaza.
For the first time they understand that a building of a Palestinian  
state
on the 67 borders is possible and happening. The vision of a ?Greater
Israel? (which in some biblical sources include what is today Jordan,  
and
parts of Egypt and Syria) is fading away.
Sharon has made a huge step in the right direction no one before him has
ever made. He made a step that a left wing Israeli government would  
never
be able to execute (just like ironically, the peace agreements with  
Egypt
and the Israeli redrew from Sinai where made by Begin, a right wing  
prime
minister under a right wing government, after years of Israeli left wing
government domination who didn?t agree even to conceder a redrew from
?Israeli territories").
On the other hand, there is no good in life with out some evil to bounce
it (Ying-Yang)
Sharon and his government are still going on with building the  
separation
wall, and enlarging the Jewish settlements in the west bank.
So the Israeli left wing activists are not happy with his ?diversity
method? of sacrificing Gaza, to ?save? the west bank and Jerusalem. I
guess that now, the straggle has moved to the west bank.
I personally do not think that Israel have any other choice than to  
redrew
to the 1967 borders, with the exemption of a couple of Jewish cities  
that
are physically in the west bank but are very close to the Israeli state
border.
In return, Israel will ?sacrifice? some of its pre-1967 territories,  
in
some other parts of the Israeli state (for example a land "bridge"  
between
the Gaza strip and the south side of the west bank.).
As for the Jerusalem question, I truly believe that Jerusalem is big
enough to serve as a capitol for the two states.
This could be an example to the rest of the world; one holly city (also
called the "city of peace") could serve two states; Israel and  
Palestine.
This could be a true "OR LA-GOYIM" (in hebrew- a Light to those who are
non Jewish).
Having said that, I fear that the Anarchy in Gaza, and the total control
of the "HAMAS" and other armed groups over the streets of Gaza, is not
helping Israelis to feel safe enough, to move forward with this  
process. I
do believe that right now, the ball is in the Palestinian court.
I have seen the separation wall in Jerusalem on my last visit. I was  
also
lucky to see the Berlin wall before its fall in 1988.
The Israeli wall is two times higher than the Berlin one. I might post
some pictures of me standing next to it on my web site. It's amazing how
big this wall is.
But walls could be moved, or brought down.
We most keep some hope in both nations minds.

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From: Michelle Kempner <guarana63@gmail.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 11:23:58 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: peace?
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> Sharon has made a huge step in the right direction no one before  
> him has
> ever made. He made a step that a left wing Israeli government would  
> never
> be able to execute

I think it is an interesting development.  Wasn't Rabin assassinated
10 years ago by a right wing Israeli who was angry that he was
considering pulling out of some occupied territories?  So it takes the
very man who came up with the idea of settlements in the first place
to disband the settlements?

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From: "Howard Greenstein (public)" <public@howardgreenstein.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 12:03:02 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: peace?
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Only Nixon could go to China is a famous quote.

Michelle Kempner wrote:

>
> So it takes the
> very man who came up with the idea of settlements in the first place
> to disband the settlements?
>

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From: Eric Nadler <eric@simonmillworks.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 12:33:47 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: peace?
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I'm similarly medium-to-low involvement... but, I understood the gaza
pullout after it was announced that he would expand in the much more
strategically/practically important Golan (where the water's at,  
nearer to
the borders of Jordan, Syria,  and Lebanon.)

water and military maneuverability seem more important to Sharon than an
organic farm in Gaza.

not sure about his relationship w/Bush other than the well-known  
(Christian
Right loves Israel cause it's part of the path to the return of JC,  
and the
end of our earthly suffering, or, something like that...). GWB = US as a
Christian nation.

2centSupposition,
E



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>
> I'm not as connected to the Israeli political scene as I used
> to be, so I make no claims to know what is going on in
> Sharon's head, but Gaza was big headache for Israel, and not
> particularly strategically important, so it made sense to get out.
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From: Doron <doron@nyu.edu>
Date: September 16, 2005 1:46:41 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: peace?
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"I understood the gaza pullout after it was announced that he would  
expand
in the much more strategically/practically important Golan (where the
water's at, nearer to the borders of Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon.)"

The Golan situation is again, a whole different story (I can't imagine
people who leave out side of Israel managing to follow up and understand
all that is going in this country that is the size of Delaware state).
The Golan was concurred in the 1967 war from Syria.
It's Syria who asks to return to the Golan, not the Palestinians.
Because the Golan is still under Israeli rule, Syria and Israel are  
still
in a situation of war.
Because of the nature of the area, we could always find a connection to
the Palestinian struggle for independence.
(A good example would be the firing of 2 rockets in Jordan by Al-Qaeda
people. One was aimed at an American ship; the second was aimed at  
Eilat,
a quiet Israeli resort city)
Sharon is threatening Syria with the Golan issue, because Syria is the
main fond and weapons provider for some militant Palestinians groups in
gaza, and Hezbollah in Lebanon.

And so, the violence goes on



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From: Eric Fixler <fix@fixler.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 1:47:14 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: peace?
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Well, it seems an odd question for this list, here's my .02.  In  
addition to the ideas mentioned in prior posts here, the following  
interpretations have been bandied about:

- Sharon is giving up Gaza to solidify Israeli control of large parts  
on the West Bank.

- Sharon is 75 years old, he's one of the last Israeli politicians  
with a strong connection to the founding years of the state.  He  
wants to make peace and a sustainable, prosperous Israel his legacy,  
and, looking at the cast of clowns who are likely to succeed him as  
PM in the future, has decided to play hard for a real settlement to  
the israel-palestine conflict

- Sharon recognizes the ultimate emergence of the Palestinian state  
as a fait accompli and sees this moment as the best opportunity to  
get a good deal for Israel.  Particularly important to him are East  
Jerusalem, and the large settlements near it and Israel's 'narrow  
waist'.

- The whole settlements thing started off, at least in the political  
backrooms where the resources to it were allocated, as a way to  
develop bargaining chips for future settlements and as a way to annex  
land that was seen as strategically important.  But, you know how  
these things go, when you marry expansionist ideology with religious  
manifest destiny (used to attract settlers to the territories to  
begin with), things often get out of hand.

Gaza is fairly unstrategic, so it's more trouble than it's worth.   
It's also worth noting in this context, that the separation wall  
currently includes approximately 9% of the territory of the West  
Bank, and it's route is probably a good indication of what Israel  
expects to get from the west bank in a final settlement.

- Sharon expects Gaza under Palestinian autonomy to be a disaster, so  
they're setting everyone up for an 'I told you so'.

- Sharon hopes that the need for responsible government in Gaza, and  
the breathing room it provides for at least a part of the palestinian  
population will help to transform some aspects of the israeli- 
Palestinian relationship and provide the PA a motivation to become  
the sole armed group in the area (google 'Altalena affair' for  
related background on this)

To a certain extent these motivations are contradictory, but I think  
they're all true to some degree.  Recent events hopefully provide a  
rupture in the status quo that may open the opportunity for  
unexpected good things, especially if Sharon's intentions are  
sincere.  On the other hand, if we start to quickly see a lot of  
provocations from the Israeli side, like assassinations, etc, it may  
be that the intentions are more cynical.  (although I'm hopeful for  
the former, esp. given the recent freak outs by benjamin Netanyahu,  
who you'd expect to play ball a little better if the goal here was  
failure)

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From: Carlyn Maw <carlynm@mac.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 2:02:29 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Fwd: [nycchi] Experience People Hot Jobs: UX Hobs in NYC Metro
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

 From another list i'm on...

Begin forwarded message:
From: "Challis Hodge" <challis@experiencepeople.com>
Date: September 14, 2005 7:09:18 PM EDT
To: <UsabilityNJ@yahoogroups.com>, <nycchi@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [nycchi] Experience People Hot Jobs: UX Hobs in NYC Metro
Reply-To: <challis@experiencepeople.com>

Below are a few of the latest job openings in the NYC metro area:

Director, Information Architecture
http://www.experiencepeople.com/job_1888_ny.html


Associate Director, Information Architecture
http://www.experiencepeople.com/job_1887_ny.html


Director, Content Strategy
http://www.experiencepeople.com/job_1886_ny.html


Associate Director, Content Strategy
http://www.experiencepeople.com/job_1885_ny.html


Principal Consultant, User Experience
http://www.experiencepeople.com/job_1884_nj.html


User Experience Designer
http://www.experiencepeople.com/job_1875_ny.html



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Date: September 16, 2005 2:03:26 PM EDT
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Subject: Fwd: [nycchi] Fwd: FW: invitation: 2-Day Conference by Games  
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Also interesting...

Begin forwarded message:
From: Dave <dheller@gmail.com>
Date: September 14, 2005 11:33:46 PM EDT
To: aigaexperiencedesign@yahoogroups.com, SIGIA-L <sigia- 
l@asis.org>,  nycchi@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [nycchi] Fwd: FW: invitation: 2-Day Conference by Games For  
Change -- Oct 21+22
Reply-To: dheller@gmail.com

I thought the below might interest people. It is an outlier for sure,  
but I
have definitely been thinking a lot lately about using my powers for  
good
lately and this looks both interesting and fun.

-- dave


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Games for Change Conference (G4C)
October 21-22 2005
New York, NY USA

THIS OCTOBER: The conference dedicated to Social Change through  
Digital Games
will explore best practices, successful funding/distribution models, and
partnership essentials.  Here's your chance to:
a)       encounter this new movement first-hand
[Gov't/Nonprofit/Foundations/Academic/Corporate/Artists]
b)       try the latest games and talk to their designers
c)       learn from leading experts in social-tech innovation  
(keynote by Clay
Shirky)
d)       join with our community of practice for partnerships and fun  
(spicy
food included!)

AND Featuring:
* INDUSTRY OVERVIEW: by Ian Bogost of Georgia Tech (and CEO of  
Persuasive
Games)
* FUNDING: hear advice from our foundation and government funders panel
* BIG GAMES: (1) the UN's "Food Force", (2) Int'l Cntr. on
Nonviolence/BreakAway: "A Force More Powerful"
* LIVE PLAY: a game created especially for the conference by gameLab
* FIND FREE RESOURCES: tips and action planning to make this all cheaper
* CHANGE THEORY: why your game needs a Theory of Change
* NETWORK: with nonprofits, developers, foundations, academics, artists
* HOW-TO/SUCCESS: who to partner with, and why -- plus evaluation
* And much more?

Register and read more at our conference website:
http://www.seriousgames.org/gamesforchange/conference/2005/index.htm
<http://www.seriousgames.org/gamesforchange/conference/2005/index.htm>
(Save $50 by registering today!)

Sincerely,
The G4C Conference Committee
(Suzanne Seggerman of Web Lab, Scott Bowling of WWWAC, Rachel Sokolow of
Carnegie Hall/Weill Music Institute, Limor Schafman of World Future
Society/Keystone Tech, Liam O'Malley of interFUEL, Jacob Troy,  
Glennette Clark
of LazySmart, Franklin Madison of ITAC, Courtney Peck Peagler , Beth  
Bryant of
Serious Games Initiative/Digital Mill, Benjamin Stokes of NetAid, Ben  
Sawyer
of Serious Games Initiative/Digital Mill, Barry Joseph of Global  
Kids, Aldrin
Bonilla of CUNY in the Heights)


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Date: September 16, 2005 2:23:57 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: recommend wikis??
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I have 6 installs of MediaWiki

Haven't played with any others really, but I like it a lot.  Easy to  
install, configure, and looks good out of the box.  Only downside is  
that it seems a little slow, but maybe that's just me.

-ev

On Sep 14, 2005, at 1:57 PM, lia bulaong wrote:

> I remember when people were fortunate to have cgi on their servers,  
> let
> alone php! Ruby is coming, the more people agitate for it, the better.
> Dedi is a fan, nag her and Nancy.
>
> Jeff Gray wrote:
>> looks nice, but not everyone is so fortunate to have Ruby on their
>> servers.
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From: Benjamin Gonzalez <ben@mutednarrative.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 1:00:10 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Need giant touch screen
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


We are looking for a 42 inch touch screen LCD/Plasma for a kiosk I am  
building. I am looking at kits from Earth LCD (did not hear good  
things from them) and ELO to make my own. Does anyone have any  
suggestions, can sell them to me or share any experience. It would  
be highly appreciated.

Thanks.

Ben

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Date: September 16, 2005 2:24:51 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: Need giant touch screen
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

The thing to do is get the plasma you want and then get a third party  
overlay. Check out this:

http://www2.smarttech.com/st/en-US/Products/Actalyst/Specifications.htm

sash.

Quoting Benjamin Gonzalez <ben@mutednarrative.com>:

>
>
> We are looking for a 42 inch touch screen LCD/Plasma for a kiosk I am
> building.  I am looking at kits from Earth LCD (did not hear good  
> things
> from them) and ELO to make my own.  Does anyone have any  
> suggestions, can
> sell them to me or share any experience.  It would be highly  
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Ben
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Gilad Rosner <roz@speakeasy.net>
Date: September 16, 2005 2:32:30 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: Need giant touch screen
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

You can also use a touch-sensitive whiteboard and LCD projector:
http://www2.smarttech.com/st/en-US/Products/SMART+Boards/Front 
+Projection/De
fault.htm

-g.


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Subject: Re: Need giant touch screen


The thing to do is get the plasma you want and then get a third party
overlay. Check out this:

http://www2.smarttech.com/st/en-US/Products/Actalyst/Specifications.htm

sash.

Quoting Benjamin Gonzalez <ben@mutednarrative.com>:

>
>
> We are looking for a 42 inch touch screen LCD/Plasma for a kiosk I am
> building.  I am looking at kits from Earth LCD (did not hear good  
> things
> from them) and ELO to make my own.  Does anyone have any  
> suggestions, can
> sell them to me or share any experience.  It would be highly  
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Ben
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Sasha Harris-Cronin <sasha@mortalspaces.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 2:35:39 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: Need giant touch screen
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Here is a decent list of a bunch of the ones out there:

http://www.wedgwood-group.com/plasma_screen_overlays.htm

I wouldn't necessarily buy from them, but it will give you further  
places to go.

The google key words are "plasma touch overlay"

sash.

Quoting Gilad Rosner <roz@speakeasy.net>:

> You can also use a touch-sensitive whiteboard and LCD projector:
> http://www2.smarttech.com/st/en-US/Products/SMART+Boards/Front 
> +Projection/De
> fault.htm
>
> -g.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sasha Harris-Cronin [mailto:sasha@mortalspaces.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:25 PM
> To: ITP Alumni
> Subject: Re: Need giant touch screen
>
>
> The thing to do is get the plasma you want and then get a third party
> overlay. Check out this:
>
> http://www2.smarttech.com/st/en-US/Products/Actalyst/ 
> Specifications.htm
>
> sash.
>
> Quoting Benjamin Gonzalez <ben@mutednarrative.com>:
>
>>
>>
>> We are looking for a 42 inch touch screen LCD/Plasma for a kiosk I am
>> building.  I am looking at kits from Earth LCD (did not hear good  
>> things
>> from them) and ELO to make my own.  Does anyone have any  
>> suggestions, can
>> sell them to me or share any experience.  It would be highly  
>> appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From: Benjamin Gonzalez <ben@mutednarrative.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 1:04:27 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Need grande, giant touch screen
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


We are looking for a 42 inch touch screen LCD/Plasma for a kiosk I am  
building. I am looking at kits from Earth LCD (did not hear good  
things from them) and ELO to make my own. Does anyone have any  
suggestions, can sell them to me or share any experience. It would  
be highly appreciated.

Thanks.

Ben

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Date: September 16, 2005 2:38:24 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Need grande, giant touch screen
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

But to answer your original question, I, too, have heard negative  
things about
Earth LCD.  We use ELO panels all the time, however, and they work  
fine. Pretty good customer support, too.

sasha.

Quoting Benjamin Gonzalez <ben@mutednarrative.com>:

>
>
> We are looking for a 42 inch touch screen LCD/Plasma for a kiosk I am
> building.  I am looking at kits from Earth LCD (did not hear good  
> things
> from them) and ELO to make my own.  Does anyone have any  
> suggestions, can
> sell them to me or share any experience.  It would be highly  
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Ben
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Paul Holgerson <paulholgerson@hotmail.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 1:41:38 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: JOB: Rubiks Cube Professional
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I couldn't resist posting this job on the list:

Rubiks Cube Professional
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Reply to: job-97467502@craigslist.org
Date: 2005-09-14, 12:29PM EDT

Looking for Rubiks Cube Professionals to work 3 weekends in November in
Times Square.

Seriously applicants only.

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/mar/97467502.html


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From: "Howard Greenstein (public)" <public@howardgreenstein.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 2:42:01 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: JOB: Rubiks Cube Professional
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Thanks for sending this, my wife can do it in 1min 20, we're applying.

Paul Holgerson wrote:

> I couldn't resist posting this job on the list:
>
> Rubiks Cube Professional  
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From: Michelle Kempner <guarana63@gmail.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 2:55:45 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: fashion show ticket
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

My friend has an extra ticket to this fashion show.  The cost goes to
hurricane relief, it os $100 or best offer.  Email me off list if you
are interested.

http://fashion.about.com/b/a/202616.htm

http://www.nydailynews.com/city_life/story/346153p-295461c.html

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From: midori.yasuda@nyu.edu
Date: September 16, 2005 3:19:18 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: JOB: Product Manager - Mobile Media Wanted
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September 8, 2005



  Product Manager - Mobile Media Wanted

Title: Product Manager - Mobile Media Division
Client: Global News and Financial Information Organization
Location: New York City
Type: Fulltime Hire

As you probably know, mobile phones are not just for talking anymore  
and nobody knows that better than our client, a Global News and  
Financial information organization, who is on the cutting edge of  
developing new content / products for the wireless world. The Hired  
Guns are working to find a new Product Manager for the team. This is  
a fulltime staff position and an incredible opportunity for those of  
you who like to stay on the cutting edge of technology. 

Overview
  In this role, you will own the production and operation of consumer  
mobile products for the Americas. You will act as the key product  
liaison with vendors of development and operations services as well  
as operators of proprietary and affiliate channels (i.e. T-Mobile).  
Together with the Global Head of Mobile and Emerging Media, this role  
will help drive the mobile product definition and business strategy. 

The ideal candidate will have a solid track record in Product  
Management (2-3 years) ideally in consumer services. Experience in  
the mobile category is highly preferred. It doesn?t have to be  
extensive experience. Perhaps you worked on developing a video game  
or created a SMS messaging product. The most important thing is that  
you will need to be a quick study.

  Responsibilities
  ? Work with Project Managers on product definition, development  
and deployment
? Ensure that external vendors have access to internal content and  
capabilities
? Communicate all design specifications to external vendors
? Day to day management of development of mobile products
? Take ownership and lead product deployment
? After deployment, act as primary product contact for both vendors  
and affiliates

  Required Skills/Education
  ? Ideal: Expertise in a mobile media product management
? Experience in a consumer media arena, across both advertising- 
supported and paid business models, is highly desirable
? Experience working in a service oriented, technology consulting  
company (i.e., IBM, Accenture) would be a plus
? Minimum of 2-3 years product management experience
? Bachelor degree in relevant field strongly preferred
? Spanish language skills a plus

HOW TO APPLY:
To be considered, please share with us what you feel has been the  
greatest technological innovation of the past 2 years and tell us why  
you feel that way.

Please make sure you meet the minimum requirements listed above.  
Email us a cover letter (required) with your most recent resume  
attached. The cover letter should detail your experience relevant to  
this opportunity and include the reasons for your interest in the  
position. Attachments should be Microsoft Word only (no PDFs or  
other formats, please).

Please email all cover letters and resumes to: <A href="mailto:  
mobile@thehiredguns.com">mobile@thehiredguns.com</A>. (Please do not  
reply to this email.)

Due to the narrowly defined objectives and criteria established by  
the client, only candidates with experience directly relevant to this  
project will be considered. No phone calls or faxes please.
  <http://hiredguns.m.xtenit.com/friend.jsp? 
uid=165836&appid=199&mid=468980><http://hiredguns.m.xtenit.com/ 
friend.jsp?uid=165836&appid=199&mid=468980> <#>
  

The Hired Guns (<A href="http://www.thehiredguns.com">http:// 
www.thehiredguns.com</A>) is a workforce agency that connects skilled  
marketing, advertising and creative talent with great interim gigs  
and full-time jobs. We're always looking to expand our network of  
independent professionals and job seekers.

If you have friends with experience in marketing, branding,  
advertising, PR, promotions, events, copywriting or design -- send  
them to our site so they can register to become Hired Guns!

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From: midori.yasuda@nyu.edu
Date: September 16, 2005 3:40:47 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: JOB: Account Supervisor for Interactive Ad Agency
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


August 19, 2005



  Account Supervisor for Interactive Ad Agency

Position: Account Supervisor
Company: Interactive Ad Agency
Location: New York City - Downtown
Type: Fulltime Hire

In this position you will support an Account Director on a large  
accounts as well as manage your own smaller account. On smaller  
accounts, you will serve as the primary contact to the client and  
have P responsibility. Your challenge will be to meet/exceed agency  
profitability goals. On large accounts, you will support the Account  
Director in this responsibility.

Responsibilities:
Leadership/Team
o Manage client relationship, marketing efforts and a client level P
o Manage a team to achieve strong client results
o Be the marketing expert across multiple media; industry expert in  
client's core businesses
o Accountable for integrated client results across all relevant  
products/services
o Works with client to uncover business needs and objectives
o Crafts appropriate strategies and identify/implement products to  
help achieve client objectives
o Coordinates delivery of multiple products/services to client
o Creates and interpret basic analysis; identify opportunities for  
more advanced analysis in conjunction with the group Analyst
o Manages process effectively and profitably

Account Management
o Proven experience in managing teams and in working cross  
functionally across an organization
o Strong knowledge or experience in marketing and advertising, with  
particular emphasis on interactive media, direct marketing, strategy  
and analytics

Skills Knowledge
o Outstanding marketing expertise with particular emphasis on  
interactive media, but strong working knowledge of direct mail,  
television, and print also a positive
o Self-starter
o Creative thinking and problem solving
o Strong interpersonal and communication skills
o Strong client-service orientation
o Track record of leadership, coaching and mentoring abilities
o Proven ability to manage projects to successful completion, multi- 
task, and work within tight deadlines.
o Sound business acumen; strategic skills; common sense
o Proven power user of Microsoft Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint and Atlas  
DMT and or DART

HOW TO APPLY:
Please make sure you meet the minimum requirements listed above.  
Email us a cover letter (required) with your most recent resume  
attached. The cover letter should detail your experience relevant to  
this opportunity and include the reasons for your interest in the  
position. Attachments should be Microsoft Word only (no PDFs or  
other formats, please).

Remember: A cover letter as described above is required. Candidates  
wishing to receive serious consideration should avoid generic cover  
letters. 

Please email all cover letters and resumes to: <A  
href="mailto:accountsupervisor@thehiredguns.com">accountsupervisor@thehi 
redguns.com</A>. (Please do not reply to this email.)

Due to the narrowly defined objectives and criteria established by  
the client, only candidates with experience directly relevant to this  
project will be considered. No phone calls or faxes please.
  <http://hiredguns.m.xtenit.com/friend.jsp? 
uid=165836&appid=199&mid=458409><http://hiredguns.m.xtenit.com/ 
friend.jsp?uid=165836&appid=199&mid=458409> <#>
  

The Hired Guns (<A href="http://www.thehiredguns.com">http:// 
www.thehiredguns.com</A>) is a workforce agency that connects skilled  
marketing, advertising and creative talent with great interim gigs  
and full-time jobs. We're always looking to expand our network of  
independent professionals and job seekers.

If you have friends with experience in marketing, branding,  
advertising, PR, promotions, events, copywriting or design -- send  
them to our site so they can register to become Hired Guns!

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From: Benjamin Gonzalez <ben@mutednarrative.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 3:56:56 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Help in design of kiosk
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Anyone know any metal workers in Brooklyn or the NYC metropolitan  
area, Jersey or upstate NY could also work. I need to have a simple  
metal structure priced and built.

Thanks for all your help.

Ben
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<sasha@mortalspaces.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 4:15:25 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Help in design of kiosk
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

As far as fabricators go, we work with Maltbie a lot, in southern  
Jersey.  If your project is too small for them, they may be able to  
point you to someone good (and closer).  Here's a contact:

Al Darrone
adarrone@maltbie.com
http://www.maltbie.com/

They are really nice guys and do quality work.  Tell them that I sent  
you. (Sasha from BBI)

Another, smaller company, right over the border in PA is USA Models,  
inc.  They also do really nice work.
Talk to Maureen, there.
MConnaughton@usainc.com
http://www.usainc.com/

It's a question of budget, somewhat.  These guys are both really  
good, but might be too pricey if you are working on a physical  
computing budget.

sash.

On Sep 16, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Benjamin Gonzalez wrote:

> Anyone know any metal workers in Brooklyn or the NYC metropolitan  
> area, Jersey or upstate NY could also work.  I need to have a  
> simple metal structure priced and built.
>
>
>
> Thanks for all your help.
>
>
>
> Ben
>
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From: midori.yasuda@nyu.edu
Date: September 16, 2005 5:20:45 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: JOB: Interactive Media Planner needed for Fashion / Retail  
client
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


August 16, 2005



  Interactive Media Planner needed for Fashion / Retail client

Client: Leading Independent Interactive Ad Agency
Position: Media Planner
Location: Manhattan
Type: Fulltime Hire

The Hired Guns are seeking an Interactive Media Planner for our  
client, a creative and fast-paced independent Interactive ad agency  
specializing in media. This position is on hi-profile fashion  
accounts, so experience in the retail category is a plus. Simply  
being an avid shopper is also a plus.

In this role you will be working with a Media Supervisor to plan,  
execute, analyze and optimize online marketing programs to help your  
clients acquire and retain customers and gain significant insights  
into their business.

Responsibilities:
* Serve as the media expert for your clients as well as the Client  
Service Team

* Plan and buy online media
* Provide marketing expertise, including online and offline strategy  
development
* Perform campaign analysis directly relevant to optimization and/or  
planning and buying decisions
* Analyze multiple sources of external data to assist in planning  
and buying decisions
* What ever else you need to do in order to provide your clients  
with guidance and leadership

Qualifications:
* 2-5 years media planning experience; with at least 1+ years online  
experience preferred
* Experience analyzing data or market research; 1 years required,  
2-5 years preferred
* Experience in dealing with both brand and direct marketing  
initiatives is critical
* BA/BS required
* Ability to understand client goals and how they translate into  
media strategy
* Process oriented, with the ability to manage all aspects of a  
campaign
* Firm grasp of how to achieve client performance metrics
* PC proficiency and solid working knowledge of Microsoft Office  
required
* Experience using 3rd party ad serving technologies (such as Atlas  
or DART)
* Excellent negotiator
* Masterful understanding of search engine media environment,  
including the players and supporting technologies
* Strong math and analytical skills
* Strong written and verbal communication skills, excellent  
presentation skills
* Dedication to client service
* Watch at least 5 reality TV shows on a regular basis (kidding,  
just making sure you are still reading)

HOW TO APPLY:
Please make sure you meet the minimum requirements listed above.  
Email us a cover letter (required) with your most recent resume  
attached. The cover letter should detail your experience relevant to  
this opportunity and include the reasons for your interest in the  
position. Attachments should be Microsoft Word only (no PDFs or  
other formats, please).

Remember: A cover letter as described above is required. Candidates  
wishing to receive serious consideration should avoid generic cover  
letters. 

Please email all cover letters and resumes to: <A  
href="mailto:imediaplanner@thehiredguns.com">imediaplanner@thehiredguns. 
com</A>. (Please do not reply to this email.)

Due to the narrowly defined objectives and criteria established by  
the client, only candidates with experience directly relevant to this  
project will be considered. No phone calls or faxes please.
  <http://hiredguns.m.xtenit.com/friend.jsp? 
uid=165836&appid=199&mid=456036><http://hiredguns.m.xtenit.com/ 
friend.jsp?uid=165836&appid=199&mid=456036> <#>
  

The Hired Guns (<A href="http://www.thehiredguns.com">http:// 
www.thehiredguns.com</A>) is a workforce agency that connects skilled  
marketing, advertising and creative talent with great interim gigs  
and full-time jobs. We're always looking to expand our network of  
independent professionals and job seekers.

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From: midori.yasuda@nyu.edu
Date: September 16, 2005 5:44:12 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: JOB: Project Manager with Emerging Tech Experience
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


August 12, 2005



  Wanted: Project Manager with Emerging Tech Experience

Client: Global Media Company
Division: Emerging Media
Position: Project Manager
Location: Midtown Manhattan
Type: Long term Freelance (2-4 months)

The Hired Guns are working with the Emerging Technology group in a  
Global Media Company to find a Project Manager with experience  
managing mobile, iTV, outdoor products and R projects. This is a 2 to  
4 month fulltime freelance gig located onsite in Midtown Manhattan. 

In this role you will to support the Product Manager in the emerging  
media group by defining, scoping and managing various areas of  
project work. You will be responsible for estimating costs, timing  
and resource requirements and bringing each project to successful  
completion within these parameters. To this end, you will need to  
take personal responsibility for the quality and timeliness of team  
deliverables.

You will work across multiple business units and with parties  
external to the project at all levels (i.e. Senior Management) to  
communicate project progress and any issues that need to be raised.  
Effective interpersonal skills are a must.

No one will be looking over your shoulder telling you how to do your  
job. We need a leader who will inspire confidence in your team and  
set stretch goals and standards for yourself and others and ensures  
they are met. You must prioritize workload and demands to ensure  
alignment with business objectives. 

Required Skills/Job Responsibilities:
  - Coordinating with other team members to monitor project progress,  
proactively identifying project issues, facilitating issue resolution  
and providing regular team updates
- Schedule project deliverables, milestones, and required tasks
- Can work independently BUT knows when to escalate issues and  
opportunities
- Expertise in MS project and resource allocation
- Detailed project tracking and documentation
- Scope definition and negotiation
- Flexible and able to multi-task
- Assisting with QA and providing final check for project deliverables
- Minimum of at least 4-5 year working within interactive space

HOW TO APPLY:
Please make sure you meet the minimum requirements listed above.  
Email us a cover letter (required) with your most recent resume  
attached. The cover letter should detail your experience relevant to  
this opportunity and include the reasons for your interest in the  
position. Attachments should be Microsoft Word only (no PDFs or  
other formats, please).

Remember: A cover letter as described above is required. Candidates  
wishing to receive serious consideration should avoid generic cover  
letters. 

Please email all cover letters and resumes to: <A  
href="mailto:emergingtech@thehiredguns.com">emergingtech@thehiredguns.co 
m</A>. (Please do not reply to this email.)

Due to the narrowly defined objectives and criteria established by  
the client, only candidates with experience directly relevant to this  
project will be considered. No phone calls or faxes please.
  <http://hiredguns.m.xtenit.com/friend.jsp? 
uid=165836&appid=199&mid=453683><http://hiredguns.m.xtenit.com/ 
friend.jsp?uid=165836&appid=199&mid=453683> <#>
The Hired Guns (<A href="http://www.thehiredguns.com">http:// 
www.thehiredguns.com</A>) is a workforce agency that connects skilled  
marketing, advertising and creative talent with great interim gigs  
and full-time jobs. We're always looking to expand our network of  
independent professionals and job seekers.

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From: midori.yasuda@nyu.edu
Date: September 16, 2005 5:46:22 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: The Games for Change Annual Conference
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


THIS OCTOBER: The conference dedicated to Social Change through  
Digital Games will explore best practices, successful funding/ 
distribution models, and partnership essentials.  Here?s your chance  
to:
a)       encounter this new movement first-hand [Gov?t/Nonprofit/ 
Foundations/Academic/Corporate/Artists]
b)       try the latest games and talk to their designers
c)       learn from leading experts in social-tech innovation  
(keynote by Clay Shirky)
d)       join with our community of practice for partnerships and fun  
(spicy food included!)

AND Featuring:
INDUSTRY OVERVIEW: by Ian Bogost of Georgia Tech (and CEO of  
Persuasive Games)
FUNDING: hear advice from our foundation and government funders panel
BIG GAMES: (1) the UN?s ?Food Force?, (2) Int?l Cntr. on  
Nonviolence/BreakAway: ?A Force More Powerful?
LIVE PLAY: a game created especially for the conference by gameLab
FIND FREE RESOURCES: tips and action planning to make this all cheaper
CHANGE THEORY: why your game needs a Theory of Change
NETWORK: with nonprofits, developers, foundations, academics, artists
HOW-TO/SUCCESS: who to partner with, and why -- plus evaluation
And much more


Register and read more at our conference website:
<A href="http://www.seriousgames.org/gamesforchange/conference/2005/ 
index.htm">http://www.seriousgames.org/gamesforchange/</A>
(Save $50 by registering today!)

Sincerely,
The G4C Conference Committee
( Suzanne Seggerman of Web Lab, Scott Bowling of WWWAC, Rachel  
Sokolow of Carnegie Hall/Weill Music Institute, Limor Schafman of  
World Future Society/Keystone Tech, Liam O'Malley of interFUEL, Jacob  
Troy, Glennette Clark of LazySmart, Franklin Madison of ITAC,  
Courtney Peck Peagler , Beth Bryant of Serious Games Initiative/ 
Digital Mill, Benjamin Stokes of NetAid, Ben Sawyer of Serious Games  
Initiative/Digital Mill, Barry Joseph of Global Kids, Aldrin Bonilla  
of CUNY in the Heights)


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From: midori.yasuda@nyu.edu
Date: September 16, 2005 5:49:27 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: JOB: Account Executive for Top Interactive Agency
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


August 11, 2005



  Account Executive for Top Interactive Agency

Position: Account Executive
  Company: Global Interactive Ad Agency
Location: NYC Midtown - working on-site
Type: Fulltime Hire

The Hired Guns are seeking an interactive Account Executive for our  
client, a top interactive agency to work on hi-profile Liquor and CPG  
accounts. This is a fulltime hire that will move very quickly, so  
update your resume now!

In this role you we be reporting to an Account Supervisor and leading  
a multi-functional interactive team. This person will strive to  
develop award-winning work in the form of rich media formatted ad  
units, splash pages, microsites, etc. The ideal candidate will  
have 1-3 years of account management experience with significant  
portion of your experience within interactive. This person needs to  
juggle multiple projects, inspire creative teams and keep clients happy.

Requirements:
  - 1+ years account management experience
- MUST have strong interactive background
- Traditional or Direct experience is a plus
- Have to be all about the details with good organization skills
  - Must have excellent writing and presentation skills
  - Capacity for strategic thinking/analysis
  - Experience with online research and reporting tools
- Self-starter (i.e. you get it done before clients even ask for it)
- Willing to work with little supervision but also plays well with  
others

HOW TO APPLY:
Please make sure you meet the minimum requirements listed above.  
Email us a cover letter (required) with your most recent resume  
attached. The cover letter should detail your experience relevant to  
this opportunity and include the reasons for your interest in the  
position. Attachments should be Microsoft Word only (no PDFs or  
other formats, please).

Remember: A cover letter as described above is required. Candidates  
wishing to receive serious consideration should avoid generic cover  
letters. 

Please email all cover letters and resumes to: <A  
href="iAE@thehiredguns.com">iAE@thehiredguns.com</A>. (Please do not  
reply to this email.)

Due to the narrowly defined objectives and criteria established by  
the client, only candidates with experience directly relevant to this  
project will be considered. No phone calls or faxes please.
  <http://hiredguns.m.xtenit.com/friend.jsp? 
uid=165836&appid=199&mid=452671><http://hiredguns.m.xtenit.com/ 
friend.jsp?uid=165836&appid=199&mid=452671> <#>
  

The Hired Guns (<A href="http://www.thehiredguns.com">http:// 
www.thehiredguns.com</A>) is a workforce agency that connects skilled  
marketing, advertising and creative talent with great interim gigs  
and full-time jobs. We're always looking to expand our network of  
independent professionals and job seekers.

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From: Paul Holgerson <paulholgerson@hotmail.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 7:55:08 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Man breaks record for watching TV
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

i thought i was bad....

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/16/tv.record.ap/index.html

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From: Christine Boomer Brumback <boomer@nyu.edu>
Date: September 16, 2005 8:10:28 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: 'Touch the Sound' movie recommendation
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

just noticed a great movie i saw at the Tribeca Film Festival this  
year is now playing at BAM, would highly
recommend it:
http://www.bam.org/film/firstrun.aspx?id=240



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From: Dan Melinger <dan@melinger.net>
Date: September 16, 2005 9:08:06 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: [MoMo-NYC] September MoMo-NYC Meeting (9/19)!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hey all-

I helped organize Mobile Monday NYC along with a couple of other ITP  
alums and folks from NY-area mobile firms.

There should be some interesting presentations and great  
opportunities for networking.

And if that's not enough, our hosts at the AP also claim they'll be  
providing wine and beer...

Hoping to see you there.

d


On Sep 9, 2005, at 12:05 PM, Midori Yasuda wrote:

>
> Hello all,
>
> The next MoMo New York meeting will be held on September 19th (due to
> CTIA-SF conflicts).  It will be our first officially hosted meeting,
> so we are looking forward to not having to shout over the din of bar
> crowds. :)
>
> The idea behind Mobile Mondays is to bring together NYC-area people
> and companies interested in mobile: to meet and chat with each other,
> see what others are doing, share ideas, and possibly even work
> together.
>
> We've been seeing great turnout at our first few meetings this summer
> and hope even more of you can make it out to this meeting, hosted at
> the Associated Press world headquarters.
>
> Anyone with an interest in wireless/mobile is welcome, so please pass
> the word and bring along others! If you have any ideas or suggestions
> on future Mobile Mondays, please come and share them with us!  Your
> participation is key in making this all worthwhile.
>
> Details:
> ========
>
> Date: September 19th , 7 PM - 9ish PM
> Cost: Free
> Theme/Topics: Mobile Communities/Social Networking
> Planned Agenda:
> - Quick welcome/intro
> - Four 15-minute presentations
> -> Socialight
> -> WINKsite
> -> NextBlast
> -> Dodgeball (Google)
> - Open discussion/networking with refreshments and snacks
>
> Address:
> Associated Press
> 450 W. 33rd Street (bet. 9th and 10th ave)
> New York, NY 10001
> Map:
> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=450+w.+33rd+st,+new+
> york,+ny&spn=0.029092,0.060176&hl=en
>
> -Steve Chang
>
>
>
>
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| +1 917 494 5856 (mobile)

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From: Jeffrey Galusha <jg1084@nyu.edu>
Date: September 16, 2005 10:01:05 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Save MNN
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Manhattan Cable Access and all public access TV is threatened by  
Washington.
Please take 30 seconds and make a difference...

What you can do!
MNN created a simple web site that enables you to sign on to several  
letters
addressed to New York Senators, Representatives and Mayor Bloomberg.
Its simple, go to:
http://mnn.org/saveaccess/

More info...

Save Public Access TV  A Call to Action!
We would like to inform you about some legislation making its way  
through
the Senate and the House that threatens to dismantle Public Access  
TV.  This
legislation will affect Manhattan Neighborhood Network (MNN), the  
largest
public access center in the country and all the other 2000 Public  
Access TV
centers across the nation.

Oppose these Bills that Threaten to Destroy Community Media!
Public Access TV is Under Attack!
The Senate Broadband Investment and Consumer Choice Act (S.1504)  
and House
and Senate Video Choice Act of 2005 (H.R.3146 & S.1349) could  
end funding
for the creation of programming, for training, for access to  
equipment and
studios. They could end funding for MNNs Community Media Grants,  
and could
strip MNN of channel space on cable TV.  These Bills could end free and
democratic public communication in the Borough of Manhattan, and at  
every
other Public Access TV center around the country.

These Bills would silence the diversity of voices heard and take  
valuable
media resources away from our communities.  It could eliminate  
financial and
technical resources that are critical to the creation of local  
programming
on the arts, culture, social issues, community affairs, and other  
areas of
the public interest.  These Bills will impact the most disenfranchised,
low-income communities that rely on Public Access TV the most.




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From: Jeffrey Galusha <jg1084@nyu.edu>
Date: September 16, 2005 10:09:06 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: NYC tech meet up
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hi all,

There is a tech meetup in NYC and it is quite nice.  Lots of nerdy
discussions and announcements of JOBS from local techs.  Its my first  
meetup
and for an hour it reminded me of an ITP hangout.  Last week we  
talked about
how technology can respond better to diasters.  Anyway... Sign up here.
http://newtech.meetup.com/1/

They are also having a member drive, with some free giveaways... and  
that is
limping along.  Sign up!


Your Organizer, Scott Heiferman, sent the following message to
the members of NY Tech Meetup:

Folks, the 3-Day Member Drive has kinda sucked. There's only
been about a dozen new members. It's OK, the NY Tech Meetup is
still great. I promised that we'd give away a couple of iPod
Nanos, and I've got to honor that, so this means that there are
DECENT ODDS THAT YOU'D WIN. It's the Final Hour of the Member
Drive... Email friends NOW.  Details at
http://newtech.meetup.com/1/boards/view/viewthread?thread=1506659
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From: lia bulaong <lia@bulaong.com>
Date: September 17, 2005 1:14:39 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: NYC tech meet up
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Galusha's trying to get Heif to give him a Nano! Ulterior motives!

Jeffrey Galusha wrote:
> Hi all,
> There is a tech meetup in NYC and it is quite nice.  Lots of nerdy  
> discussions and announcements of JOBS from local techs.  Its my first
> meetup and for an hour it reminded me of an ITP hangout.  Last week
> we talked about how technology can respond better to diasters.
> Anyway... Sign up here. http://newtech.meetup.com/1/
> They are also having a member drive, with some free giveaways... and
> that is limping along.  Sign up!
> Your Organizer, Scott Heiferman, sent the following message to the
> members of NY Tech Meetup:
> Folks, the 3-Day Member Drive has kinda sucked. There's only been
> about a dozen new members. It's OK, the NY Tech Meetup is still
> great. I promised that we'd give away a couple of iPod Nanos, and
> I've got to honor that, so this means that there are DECENT ODDS THAT
> YOU'D WIN. It's the Final Hour of the Member Drive... Email friends
> NOW.  Details at http://newtech.meetup.com/1/boards/view/viewthread? 
> thread=1506659  
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From: Cindy Jeffers <itp@cindyjeffers.org>
Date: September 17, 2005 11:13:38 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: The First Annual Robot Parade:  Get your bot around the  
fountain
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

You are cordially invited to the first annual Robot Parade!
Come as you are, as a robot or with a robot!
It'll be like the DARPA Grand Challenge Race only around the  
Washington Square fountain!

Sunday, September 18, 2005
Parade begins at 12:00pm
New York City's Washington Square Park Fountain
Just below 5th Avenue and Washington Square North
Map and directions: http://tinyurl.com/daxhz



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From: Mike Connor <mike@rocketnumber9.org>
Date: September 16, 2005 6:35:04 PM EDT
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Subject: recording a pc screen and brining it into Flash
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do you guys know how to record screen activity on a pc and then bring  
it into
Flash?

there's a product called SCREENCAM that records desktops and exports  
a SWF
http://www.smartguyz.com/index-5.html

anybody have experience with it?


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From: Sasha Harris-Cronin <sasha@mortalspaces.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 7:35:32 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: recording a pc screen and brining it into Flash
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Macromedia actually makes a screen capture product.  It outputs flash:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/captivate/

sasha.


On Sep 16, 2005, at 3:35 PM, Mike Connor wrote:

> do you guys know how to record screen activity on a pc and then  
> bring it into
> Flash?
>
> there's a product called SCREENCAM that records desktops and  
> exports a SWF
> http://www.smartguyz.com/index-5.html
>
> anybody have experience with it?
>
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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 17, 2005 1:35:18 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: recording a pc screen and brining it into Flash
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there are a lot of shareware and cheapware utilities that can output  
straight to swf.  look on tucows/versiontracker, or just google.

also, you can bring mov/mpeg files into flash, you don't *need*  
something that goes straight to swf.

-e

On Sep 16, 2005, at 6:35 PM, Mike Connor wrote:

> do you guys know how to record screen activity on a pc and then  
> bring it into
> Flash?
>
> there's a product called SCREENCAM that records desktops and  
> exports a SWF
> http://www.smartguyz.com/index-5.html
>
> anybody have experience with it?
>
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From: Daniel H Palkowski <daniel.palkowski@nyu.edu>
Date: September 17, 2005 2:21:12 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: recording a pc screen and brining it into Flash
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Camtasia....far, far better than screencam, and does a great swf export

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Date: Saturday, September 17, 2005 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: recording a pc screen and brining it into Flash

> there are a lot of shareware and cheapware utilities that can
> output
> straight to swf.  look on tucows/versiontracker, or just google.
>
> also, you can bring mov/mpeg files into flash, you don't *need*
> something that goes straight to swf.
>
> -e
>
> On Sep 16, 2005, at 6:35 PM, Mike Connor wrote:
>
>> do you guys know how to record screen activity on a pc and then
> bring
>> it into
>> Flash?
>>
>> there's a product called SCREENCAM that records desktops and
> exports a
>> SWF
>> http://www.smartguyz.com/index-5.html
>>
>> anybody have experience with it?
>>
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From: fleeta j <fleeta-itp@sens.eu.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 4:50:12 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: sms
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

One thing to consider if your going to be sending lots of SMS, is to  
work with an aggregator- a virtual operator that has a direct link to  
all mobile operators and their gateways. This is a growing business  
model in the UK, where the big operators (Voda, 02, T-Mobile, 3) sell  
off their 'bandwidth' and services to other companies. Virgin Mobile  
is a prime example of this, as they dont own any network components,  
just lease time from T-Mobile.

What Daniel describes is not an SMS Gateway, just a single point on a  
single operators network. A gateway would provide you with hundreds  
or thousands of ways to send/receive anything to all network  
operators- if you so choose.
I have come across several web solutions, problem is they often SPAM  
the numbers you enter into 'their' database for your use.

Get a phone with the option to send to multiple people and the right  
tariff and do it yourself. (unless this is a weekly thing your doing...)

peace,fleeta


On Sep 15, 2005, at 2:36 PM, Michael Sharon wrote:

> Clickatell is one of a number of companies that have a number of  
> products that allow you to create and send masses of SMS messages  
> from your desktop. http://clickatell.co.za/
>
> Depending on the application - you can also use email applications  
> to send email to the telephone numbers, but then you need a list of  
> all the carriers and you need to know which carrier each person is  
> using. Then you send the email to [phone number]@[carrier host] -  
> check out Dens Crowley's class last semester for more details. This  
> can also have some weird results - some networks' SMS-email  
> gateways end up doing strange things to the message when you send  
> it out.
>
> If you really feel up to it, you can set up your own SMS gateway -  
> just follow the instructions posted by Daniel Raffel on the  
> bluetooth laptop thread a few days ago.
>
> -m
>
>
>> You might be able to use any e-mailer... Don't most SMS services  
>> have e-mail addresses attached to each phone number?
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 14, 2005, at 3:24 PM, Betsy Finston wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Does anyone know of a software that allows you to send a bunch of  
>>> sms messages at once?  kind of like an email newsletter software.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Betsy
>>>
>>>
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From: Daniel Raffel <sumbits@thincvox.com>
Date: September 17, 2005 1:24:44 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: sms
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> What Daniel describes is not an SMS Gateway, just a single point

fleeta, Kannel, which is what I am using, is an SMS/WAP gateway by  
definition.  i suspect you might be confusing terminology (SMS vs  
SMSC or simply have a different concept of what you consider a  
gateway.)  regardless, for myself and many on the list i doubt their  
early stage development projects require a large scale operation with  
so many SMSC's.

the good news is i have yet to find a providers device which i can't  
send to.  for this i can probably thank the stringent requirements of  
the shortcode group.  i also have rules to take into account a  
callers country code.

certainly, having only one SMSC defined, as i do, will not give you  
the redundancy and QoS that you describe.  a more traditional, and  
professional, SMS gateway service provider would contain multiple  
pathways to the mobile carrier network.  the good news is that one  
does have the option, within Kannel, to do this them-self too!!   
alternate paths/rules for messages to take is quite easy to define  
simply by setting up multiple SMSC links and SMSCID tags.

for example, within kannel.conf you could have a definition for (a)  
an external SMSC provider/resender like clickatell (which itself is  
likely running kannel in some variant), (b) an SMSC provider that's  
connected via a USB GSM modem bank, (c) an SMSC provider that's  
hooked up via your bluetooth cell, etc, etc.  each could be defined  
in all sorts of different ways working together or separately.

as for sending emails, first of all it depends what is in them *but*  
you really do not need to know a callers cellphone provider to send  
them an email if you have kannel setup, you would need to know their  
country code however.

on the topic of clickatell, i would not suggest them.  i found their  
service is routinely down and when it is you will have fun contacting  
them to get an answer/refund...it took me days to get through to them  
on the phone each time I called!  not to mention adding funds was a  
nightmare, it took days to process a simple order.

i was inspired by all the poor quality SMS gateway providers I ran  
into, and I have used over a dozen, to take matters into my own  
hands.  considering how cheap and easy it is to do yourself it's well  
worth it.  for most simple setups kannel certainly doesn't require a  
dedicated machine.

here's some great documentation worth reading that explains a lot of  
this stuff:
http://kannel.org/download/1.4.0/userguide-1.4.0/userguide.html

regards, daniel

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From: fleeta j <fleeta-itp@sens.eu.com>
Date: September 17, 2005 3:24:50 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: sms
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I maybe confusing terminology- I am not even sure what a SMSC is?

I agree, a roll-it-your own operation is definitely the way to go for  
most folks- we used a linux box for our shows (texterritory.com).  
But, I was told by the phone operators here, that an SMS GAteway  
provided access to all the mobile operators nets at a rate of  
thousands of SMS every 5 sec or so. As opposed to 1 every 2-3 sec  
with the roll-your-own solution- as you only have 1 SIM card and 1  
point of access to a single operator. And we all know how reliable  
they can be... If one needs to send out thousands of time sensitive  
SMS', there is no other way, is there?

Thanks for the post, I will look into this Kannel.

peace,fleeta


On Sep 17, 2005, at 6:24 AM, Daniel Raffel wrote:

>> What Daniel describes is not an SMS Gateway, just a single point
>>
>
> fleeta, Kannel, which is what I am using, is an SMS/WAP gateway by  
> definition.  i suspect you might be confusing terminology (SMS vs  
> SMSC or simply have a different concept of what you consider a  
> gateway.)  regardless, for myself and many on the list i doubt  
> their early stage development projects require a large scale  
> operation with so many SMSC's.
>
> the good news is i have yet to find a providers device which i  
> can't send to.  for this i can probably thank the stringent  
> requirements of the shortcode group.  i also have rules to take  
> into account a callers country code.
>
> certainly, having only one SMSC defined, as i do, will not give you  
> the redundancy and QoS that you describe.  a more traditional, and  
> professional, SMS gateway service provider would contain multiple  
> pathways to the mobile carrier network.  the good news is that one  
> does have the option, within Kannel, to do this them-self too!!   
> alternate paths/rules for messages to take is quite easy to define  
> simply by setting up multiple SMSC links and SMSCID tags.
>
> for example, within kannel.conf you could have a definition for (a)  
> an external SMSC provider/resender like clickatell (which itself is  
> likely running kannel in some variant), (b) an SMSC provider that's  
> connected via a USB GSM modem bank, (c) an SMSC provider that's  
> hooked up via your bluetooth cell, etc, etc.  each could be defined  
> in all sorts of different ways working together or separately.
>
> as for sending emails, first of all it depends what is in them  
> *but* you really do not need to know a callers cellphone provider  
> to send them an email if you have kannel setup, you would need to  
> know their country code however.
>
> on the topic of clickatell, i would not suggest them.  i found  
> their service is routinely down and when it is you will have fun  
> contacting them to get an answer/refund...it took me days to get  
> through to them on the phone each time I called!  not to mention  
> adding funds was a nightmare, it took days to process a simple order.
>
> i was inspired by all the poor quality SMS gateway providers I ran  
> into, and I have used over a dozen, to take matters into my own  
> hands.  considering how cheap and easy it is to do yourself it's  
> well worth it.  for most simple setups kannel certainly doesn't  
> require a dedicated machine.
>
> here's some great documentation worth reading that explains a lot  
> of this stuff:
> http://kannel.org/download/1.4.0/userguide-1.4.0/userguide.html
>
> regards, daniel
>
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From: Bob Berger <berger.cvr@gmail.com>
Date: September 17, 2005 1:15:19 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: FW: VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING NEW VIRUS
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


Importance: High
WORST VIRUS EVER --- CNN ANNOUNCED

A new virus has just been discovered that has been classified by  
Microsoft as the most destructive ever. This virus was discovered  
yesterday afternoon by McAfee . This virus simply destroys Sector  
Zero from the hard disk, where vital information for its functioning  
is stored. This virus acts in the following manner:
It sends itself automatically to all contacts on your list with the  
title: "A Card for You".

As soon as the supposed virtual card is opened the computer freezes  
so that the user has to reboot. When the ctrl+alt+del keys or the  
reset button are pressed, the virus destroys Sector Zero, thus  
permanently destroying the hard disk. Yesterday in just a few hours  
this virus caused panic in New York, according to news broadcast by  
CNN. This alert was received by an employee of Microsoft itself.
So don't open any mails with subject: "A Virtual Card for You. " As  
soon as you get the mail, delete it !! Even if you know the sender !!!
-- 
Bob Berger
www.charlievictorromeo.com
http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
berger.cvr@gmail.com

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hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Shawn Van Every <itp- 
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Date: September 17, 2005 1:23:47 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING NEW VIRUS
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Sorry but this is a hoax:  http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/card.asp

-s

On Sep 17, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Bob Berger wrote:

> Importance: High
>
> WORST VIRUS EVER --- CNN ANNOUNCED
>
> A new virus has just been discovered that has been classified by  
> Microsoft as the most destructive ever. This virus was discovered  
> yesterday afternoon by McAfee . This virus simply destroys Sector  
> Zero from the hard disk, where vital information for its  
> functioning is stored. This virus acts in the following manner:
> It sends itself automatically to all contacts on your list with the  
> title: "A Card for You".
>
> As soon as the supposed virtual card is opened the computer freezes  
> so that the user has to reboot. When the ctrl+alt+del keys or the  
> reset button are pressed, the virus destroys Sector Zero, thus  
> permanently destroying the hard disk. Yesterday in just a few hours  
> this virus caused panic in New York, according to news broadcast by  
> CNN. This alert was received by an employee of Microsoft itself.
>
> So don't open any mails with subject: "A Virtual Card for You. " As  
> soon as you get the mail, delete it !! Even if you know the sender !!!
>
> -- 
> Bob Berger
> www.charlievictorromeo.com
> http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
> berger.cvr@gmail.com
>
> "There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his  
> hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L.  
> Mencken
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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 17, 2005 1:37:24 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING NEW VIRUS
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

is hoax-authoring a kind of virus-writing in itself?  why bother?   
people don't have something better to do with their time?

On Sep 17, 2005, at 1:23 PM, Shawn Van Every wrote:

> Sorry but this is a hoax:  http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/ 
> card.asp
>
> -s
>
> On Sep 17, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Bob Berger wrote:
>
>> Importance: High
>>
>> WORST VIRUS EVER --- CNN ANNOUNCED
>>
>> A new virus has just been discovered that has been classified by  
>> Microsoft as the most destructive ever. This virus was discovered  
>> yesterday afternoon by McAfee . This virus simply destroys Sector  
>> Zero from the hard disk, where vital information for its  
>> functioning is stored. This virus acts in the following manner:
>> It sends itself automatically to all contacts on your list with  
>> the title: "A Card for You".
>>
>> As soon as the supposed virtual card is opened the computer  
>> freezes so that the user has to reboot. When the ctrl+alt+del keys  
>> or the reset button are pressed, the virus destroys Sector Zero,  
>> thus permanently destroying the hard disk. Yesterday in just a few  
>> hours this virus caused panic in New York, according to news  
>> broadcast by CNN. This alert was received by an employee of  
>> Microsoft itself.
>>
>> So don't open any mails with subject: "A Virtual Card for You. "  
>> As soon as you get the mail, delete it !! Even if you know the  
>> sender !!!
>>
>> -- 
>> Bob Berger
>> www.charlievictorromeo.com
>> http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
>> berger.cvr@gmail.com
>>
>> "There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his  
>> hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L.  
>> Mencken
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From: Bob Berger <berger.cvr@gmail.com>
Date: September 17, 2005 1:42:06 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING NEW VIRUS
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

hm, sorry. I stand corrected.

-- 
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hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

On 9/17/05, eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com > wrote:
is hoax-authoring a kind of virus-writing in itself?why bother?
people don't have something better to do with their time?

On Sep 17, 2005, at 1:23 PM, Shawn Van Every wrote:

 > Sorry but this is a hoax:
 > http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/card.asp
 >
 > -s
 >
 > On Sep 17, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Bob Berger wrote:
 >
 >> Importance: High
 >>
 >> WORST VIRUS EVER --- CNN ANNOUNCED
 >>
 >> A new virus has just been discovered that has been classified by
 >> Microsoft as the most destructive ever. This virus was discovered
 >> yesterday afternoon by McAfee . This virus simply destroys Sector
 >> Zero from the hard disk, where vital information for its functioning
 >> is stored. This virus acts in the following manner:
 >> It sends itself automatically to all contacts on your list with the
 >> title: "A Card for You".
 >>
 >> As soon as the supposed virtual card is opened the computer freezes
 >> so that the user has to reboot. When the ctrl+alt+del keys or the
 >> reset button are pressed, the virus destroys Sector Zero, thus
 >> permanently destroying the hard disk. Yesterday in just a few hours
 >> this virus caused panic in New York, according to news broadcast by
 >> CNN. This alert was received by an employee of Microsoft itself.
 >>
 >> So don't open any mails with subject: "A Virtual Card for You. " As
 >> soon as you get the mail, delete it !! Even if you know the sender
 >> !!!
 >>
 >> --
 >> Bob Berger
 >> www.charlievictorromeo.com
 >> http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
 >> berger.cvr@gmail.com
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 >> hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L.
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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: phoebe <phoebe@nyu.edu>
Date: September 17, 2005 1:50:25 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING NEW VIRUS
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hmm, if you really want to create a malevolent virus, why not develop  
one that's been identified as a hoax and take advantage of people's  
lowered defenses that way?
-p

On Sep 17, 2005, at 1:37 PM, eric socolofsky wrote:

> is hoax-authoring a kind of virus-writing in itself?  why bother?   
> people don't have something better to do with their time?
>
> On Sep 17, 2005, at 1:23 PM, Shawn Van Every wrote:
>
>> Sorry but this is a hoax:  http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/ 
>> card.asp
>>
>> -s
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Bob Berger wrote:
>>
>>> Importance: High
>>>
>>> WORST VIRUS EVER --- CNN ANNOUNCED
>>>
>>> A new virus has just been discovered that has been classified by  
>>> Microsoft as the most destructive ever. This virus was discovered  
>>> yesterday afternoon by McAfee . This virus simply destroys Sector  
>>> Zero from the hard disk, where vital information for its  
>>> functioning is stored. This virus acts in the following manner:
>>> It sends itself automatically to all contacts on your list with  
>>> the title: "A Card for You".
>>>
>>> As soon as the supposed virtual card is opened the computer  
>>> freezes so that the user has to reboot. When the ctrl+alt+del  
>>> keys or the reset button are pressed, the virus destroys Sector  
>>> Zero, thus permanently destroying the hard disk. Yesterday in  
>>> just a few hours this virus caused panic in New York, according  
>>> to news broadcast by CNN. This alert was received by an employee  
>>> of Microsoft itself.
>>>
>>> So don't open any mails with subject: "A Virtual Card for You. "  
>>> As soon as you get the mail, delete it !! Even if you know the  
>>> sender !!!
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Bob Berger
>>> www.charlievictorromeo.com
>>> http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
>>> berger.cvr@gmail.com
>>>
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>>> hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L.  
>>> Mencken
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From: "Howard Greenstein (public)" <public@howardgreenstein.com>
Date: September 17, 2005 5:21:41 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING NEW VIRUS
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

That's just what they want us to think.

phoebe wrote:

> Hmm, if you really want to create a malevolent virus, why not  
> develop one that's been identified as a hoax and take advantage of  
> people's lowered defenses that way?
> -p
>
> On Sep 17, 2005, at 1:37 PM, eric socolofsky wrote:
>
>> is hoax-authoring a kind of virus-writing in itself?  why bother?   
>> people don't have something better to do with their time?
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2005, at 1:23 PM, Shawn Van Every wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry but this is a hoax:  http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/ 
>>> card.asp
>>>
>>> -s
>>>
>>> On Sep 17, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Bob Berger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Importance: High
>>>>
>>>> WORST VIRUS EVER --- CNN ANNOUNCED
>>>>
>>>> A new virus has just been discovered that has been classified by  
>>>> Microsoft as the most destructive ever. This virus was  
>>>> discovered yesterday afternoon by McAfee . This virus simply  
>>>> destroys Sector Zero from the hard disk, where vital information  
>>>> for its functioning is stored. This virus acts in the following  
>>>> manner:
>>>> It sends itself automatically to all contacts on your list with  
>>>> the title: "A Card for You".
>>>>
>>>> As soon as the supposed virtual card is opened the computer  
>>>> freezes so that the user has to reboot. When the ctrl+alt+del  
>>>> keys or the reset button are pressed, the virus destroys Sector  
>>>> Zero, thus permanently destroying the hard disk. Yesterday in  
>>>> just a few hours this virus caused panic in New York, according  
>>>> to news broadcast by CNN. This alert was received by an employee  
>>>> of Microsoft itself.
>>>>
>>>> So don't open any mails with subject: "A Virtual Card for You. "  
>>>> As soon as you get the mail, delete it !! Even if you know the  
>>>> sender !!!
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Bob Berger
>>>> www.charlievictorromeo.com
>>>> http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
>>>> berger.cvr@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> "There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his  
>>>> hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L.  
>>>> Mencken
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From: phoebe <phoebe@nyu.edu>
Date: September 17, 2005 10:29:41 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: BW Best of the Web
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


http://www.businessweek.com/technology/bestof/editorpicks.htm
Check out Toolbox > Wireless Services

ITP reprazent!


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From: Carlyn Maw <carlyn@nyu.edu>
Date: September 17, 2005 5:31:26 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: lcd screen cleaner?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Belated - but Windex Vinegar Formula (NOT the ammonia blue stuff),  
really.


On Sep 15, 2005, at 12:34 PM, joshua goldberg wrote:
i know their stuff has the reputation of being some of the most  
overpriced garbage to flood the tech accessories market, but i really  
swear by the monster cleaning cloth and spray kit.  it's $20, but  
damn is it incredibly effective for cleaning every inch of my laptop,  
which goes with me everywhere.  and i am not the cleanest guy in town.

On Sep 15, 2005, at 12:30 PM, | maria | wrote:


Hi Scott,

I am using wet eyeglass cleaning wipes. Works well.
And is cheaper than special LCD screen wipes.

m.


On Sep 15, 2005, at 1:57 AM, scott fitzgerald wrote:



Over the last 2 years my laptop screen has become... dirty.  It has
less to do with porn consumption, more to do with the general funk
that accumulates in the air in nyc (and the specific funk that
accumulates in my backpack, but thats a different story).

What do y'all use to clean your laptop screens with?  any horror
stories?  any special/fond memories?

thanks listies,

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From: chewy@lepow.com
Date: September 18, 2005 1:08:21 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: lcd screen cleaner?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Take one of those scratch resistant cloths used for glasses and then  
take
hot water and slightly damp the cloth with the hot water
-Chewy

> Belated - but Windex Vinegar Formula (NOT the ammonia blue stuff),
> really.
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2005, at 12:34 PM, joshua goldberg wrote:
>
>> i know their stuff has the reputation of being some of the most
>> overpriced garbage to flood the tech accessories market, but i
>> really swear by the monster cleaning cloth and spray kit.  it's
>> $20, but damn is it incredibly effective for cleaning every inch of
>> my laptop, which goes with me everywhere.  and i am not the
>> cleanest guy in town.
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2005, at 12:30 PM, | maria | wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Scott,
>>>
>>> I am using wet eyeglass cleaning wipes. Works well.
>>> And is cheaper than special LCD screen wipes.
>>>
>>> m.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2005, at 1:57 AM, scott fitzgerald wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Over the last 2 years my laptop screen has become... dirty.  It has
>>>> less to do with porn consumption, more to do with the general funk
>>>> that accumulates in the air in nyc (and the specific funk that
>>>> accumulates in my backpack, but thats a different story).
>>>>
>>>> What do y'all use to clean your laptop screens with?  any horror
>>>> stories?  any special/fond memories?
>>>>
>>>> thanks listies,
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ~s
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From: Daniel Raffel <sumbits@thincvox.com>
Date: September 18, 2005 9:10:32 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: VON (the VoIP industry trade show)
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Today is the last day one can signup for a free Expo pass for VON  
(the VoIP industry trade show) with this priority code from  
Primedia's Telephony magazine: TY4
That code also gets you a discounted price on the other packages  
being offered.

The free, exhibits only, pass will get you access to the expo hall  
and all the keynotes, more info here:
https://secure.pulver.com/von/register.html

The conference schedule looks pretty interesting (if you're into this  
stuff -- quite a few appear to be offered as future podcasts):
http://von.com/schedule.html

If anyone here on the list is going to be in Boston (this Mon-Thurs),  
for this or some other reason, perhaps we can try to meetup and  
dorkout on VoIP.

All the best, Daniel

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From: Daniel Raffel <sumbits@thincvox.com>
Date: September 18, 2005 12:27:06 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: itp-alumni digest: September 17, 2005
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I maybe confusing terminology- I am not even sure what a SMSC is?

an SMSC is your carrier provider.

But, I was told by the phone operators here, that an SMS GAteway
provided access to all the mobile operators nets at a rate of
thousands of SMS every 5 sec or so. As opposed to 1 every 2-3 sec
with the roll-your-own solution

i would do research into what a company trying to sell you their  
service tells you is and is not possible. SMS resenders are also  
notoriously scummy. i felt like taking an acid bath after dealing  
with them (the first red flag went up for me when i determined that  
as a business they are classified as a high-risk by credit lenders.)

kannel can handle huge amounts of traffic, one of the things that  
initially concerned me about using it was just how many thousands of  
messages it can send out in a few seconds if you misconfigure.  
kannel is a proper WAP/SMS implementation, not some 'roll your own'  
hack. i can't think of a product that comes even close to its  
feature set that doesn't cost thousands of dollars (and/or isn't  
based off of it.)

to give you a sense of its implementations NowSMS bases their product  
on it. kannel is also the backend to many professional solution  
integrations (including clickatell, etc) one might look into what  
companies like google and yahoo are using. i wouldn't be surprised  
if it was a modified version of kannel.
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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 10:43:57 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: itp-flash list
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

from the people who brought you such favorites as itp-sound and itp- 
video comes...
itp-flash.  you know the deal:

http://forums.nyu.edu
join: itp-flash
post to itp-flash@forums.nyu.edu

beginner and advanced flash students are on the list, as well as  
anyone else who has flash questions.  the list is still pretty new,  
so sign up and start posting....

-e


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From: "evan.raskob" <lists@lowfrequency.org>
Date: September 16, 2005 12:21:10 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: itp-flash list
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

shouldn't there also be an "itp-flash-sucks" list?

;)

On Sep 16, 2005, at 10:43 AM, eric socolofsky wrote:

> from the people who brought you such favorites as itp-sound and itp- 
> video comes...
> itp-flash.  you know the deal:
>
> http://forums.nyu.edu
> join: itp-flash
> post to itp-flash@forums.nyu.edu
>
> beginner and advanced flash students are on the list, as well as  
> anyone else who has flash questions.  the list is still pretty new,  
> so sign up and start posting....
>
> -e
>
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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 1:31:23 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: itp-flash list
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

maybe we can make an "itp-evan-sucks" list too

On Sep 16, 2005, at 12:21 PM, evan.raskob wrote:

> shouldn't there also be an "itp-flash-sucks" list?
>
> ;)
>
> On Sep 16, 2005, at 10:43 AM, eric socolofsky wrote:
>
>> from the people who brought you such favorites as itp-sound and  
>> itp-video comes...
>> itp-flash.  you know the deal:
>>
>> http://forums.nyu.edu
>> join: itp-flash
>> post to itp-flash@forums.nyu.edu
>>
>> beginner and advanced flash students are on the list, as well as  
>> anyone else who has flash questions.  the list is still pretty  
>> new, so sign up and start posting....
>>
>> -e
>>
>>
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From: "evan.raskob" <lists@lowfrequency.org>
Date: September 16, 2005 2:15:03 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: itp-flash list
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

that's funny like your FACE

On Sep 16, 2005, at 1:31 PM, eric socolofsky wrote:

> maybe we can make an "itp-evan-sucks" list too
>
> On Sep 16, 2005, at 12:21 PM, evan.raskob wrote:
>
>> shouldn't there also be an "itp-flash-sucks" list?
>>
>> ;)
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2005, at 10:43 AM, eric socolofsky wrote:
>>
>>> from the people who brought you such favorites as itp-sound and  
>>> itp-video comes...
>>> itp-flash.  you know the deal:
>>>
>>> http://forums.nyu.edu
>>> join: itp-flash
>>> post to itp-flash@forums.nyu.edu
>>>
>>> beginner and advanced flash students are on the list, as well as  
>>> anyone else who has flash questions.  the list is still pretty  
>>> new, so sign up and start posting....
>>>
>>> -e
>>>
>>>
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From: joshua goldberg <josh@goldbergs.com>
Date: September 18, 2005 10:58:26 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: itp-flash list
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

i am a one man itp-flash-sucks list.

On Sep 16, 2005, at 12:21 PM, evan.raskob wrote:

> shouldn't there also be an "itp-flash-sucks" list?
>
> ;)
>
> On Sep 16, 2005, at 10:43 AM, eric socolofsky wrote:
>
>
>> from the people who brought you such favorites as itp-sound and  
>> itp-video comes...
>> itp-flash.  you know the deal:
>>
>> http://forums.nyu.edu
>> join: itp-flash
>> post to itp-flash@forums.nyu.edu
>>
>> beginner and advanced flash students are on the list, as well as  
>> anyone else who has flash questions.  the list is still pretty  
>> new, so sign up and start posting....
>>
>> -e
>>
>>
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From: ann poochareon <itp@miserychick.net>
Date: September 18, 2005 12:35:36 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: itp-flash list
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

and i'm the one-woman version of that.

(i still love you though eric ;-) )

On Sep 18, 2005, at 4:58 PM, joshua goldberg wrote:

> i am a one man itp-flash-sucks list.
>
> On Sep 16, 2005, at 12:21 PM, evan.raskob wrote:
>
>
>> shouldn't there also be an "itp-flash-sucks" list?
>>
>> ;)
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2005, at 10:43 AM, eric socolofsky wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> from the people who brought you such favorites as itp-sound and  
>>> itp-video comes...
>>> itp-flash.  you know the deal:
>>>
>>> http://forums.nyu.edu
>>> join: itp-flash
>>> post to itp-flash@forums.nyu.edu
>>>
>>> beginner and advanced flash students are on the list, as well as  
>>> anyone else who has flash questions.  the list is still pretty  
>>> new, so sign up and start posting....
>>>
>>> -e
>>>
>>>
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From: Eric Forman <itp@ericforman.com>
Date: September 18, 2005 2:27:17 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: For sale: nice glass piece for table top or coffee table or ?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Nice heavy thick beveled edge glass piece for table top, coffee  
table, shelving, etc. 1/2" thick, 3 feet x 3 feet. Excellent  
condition. i paid $200 per piece for these for an interior design  
project and this one is extra, take it away for $40! First come first  
serve.

photos here:

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/fur/98342217.html


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From: Vardit Gross <varditgo@gmail.com>
Date: September 18, 2005 4:00:36 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: pickup truck?
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anyone knows where can I rent a pickup truck? or does anyone on this  
list has one? oddly enough all I can find around town are enclosed  
trucks.

thanks,
vardit
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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: morry <murray.baloney@gmail.com>
Date: September 18, 2005 7:00:36 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: t-shirt silkscreen recommendations? (just 2 shirts!)
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I always suggest my customers to just get iron on transfers from
staples (they work very well surprisingly) for short runs. It is
possible to do 1-2 shirts silk screened but you will have to pay for
the set up which run about $25-30 screen per color per location (e.g.
a 2 color font and 3 color back print will be 5 screens x $25.

You can also try cafepress.com

Morry

On 8/3/05, Cynthia Lawson Jaramillo <cynthia@cynthialawson.com> wrote:
> That looks like fun!  Please report back once you've used it!
>
> I think I'll go with the Tony Danza guide to stenciling, since it's a
> B&W image...
>
> Thanks!
>
> xx
> C.
>
> Michelle Kempner wrote:
>
>> you can buy a gocco or i can try to do it on my un-opened gocco...
>> http://www.dickblick.com/zz449/38/
>>
>> the art store by nyu is a dick blick store now so you can get it  
>> there.
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From: "Gilad L. Rosner" <roz@speakeasy.net>
Date: September 18, 2005 11:45:27 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Loft Available/Wanted
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

 From a friend:

Brooklyn loft/event space wanted for rent+ NJ loft sublet

Please help! Trying to find a live/work loft/event space in Brooklyn  
& sublet one in Jersey City. Would love to trade for difference in  
price.

LOFT AVAILABLE:
Huge 2-bedroom loft with "art/music studio" designation on the lease,  
above a shop on Hoboken Ave in Jersey City, a block from the tunnel  
and 10-min walk from Journal sq PATH. It is a perfect live/work  
setup, as the main area is frankly gigantic (don't know the square  
footage, but definitely above 1,000) with very high ceilings, and the  
zoning is industrial rather than residential (noise OK). The bedrooms  
are decent-sized (can fit queen-size bed, dressers, etc). Large  
closet. Separate "broom closet"/workroom with slop sink. Nice cozy  
bathroom. Kitchen is part of main loft area. Large windows. Own  
thermostat. Roof access (the only one in the building). Everything  
solid, just needs a coat of paint, if desired. Living room already  
has couch set, for the next few months, at least.

This is the most perfect artist share I've seen. $1700. Open Oct 1,  
please move on this ASAP.

The apartment was left to me by a friend who's moved and wanted it to  
remain with someone she knows. Please be understanding of the sublet  
arrangement. Artists/musicians preferred. Will require first/last  
month's rent + 1/2 month security.


LOFT WANTED:
Trying to find a miracle of a space to create something amazing in an  
area I've grown to love (Prospect Heights, Brooklyn). I want to run a  
local event space, one that would have good atmosphere and fun  
parties and art from local artists. No thumping techno, but great  
live music. Yoga and dance classes. I want to make my living room the  
community's arts center and a great location for private parties.

Looking for about 2000 sq ft at $1/sq ft or under, live/work, with a  
sympatehtic landlord who would understand what I'm trying to do and  
possibly give a break on the rent for the first 1-2 months to rebuild  
into something beautiful. Must have roof access or backyard, 2 exits  
a plus. Storefront w/apt above also possibility. Would prefer direct/ 
no fee. This is the kind of space that revitalizes a neighborhood.  
Please help!


Larisa Fuchs
insight photo|graphic
www.insight2.com
larisa@insight2.com
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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: lia bulaong <lia@bulaong.com>
Date: September 17, 2005 10:53:32 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: tips for t-shirt printing?
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Almighty List Peeps,

Working on something in Ilustrator that's supposed to get sent off to
get printed onto a t-shirt, which I've never had to do before, anyone
have tips?

Lia

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From: Jeff Gray <jeff@grayfuse.com>
Date: September 18, 2005 12:16:05 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: tips for t-shirt printing?
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Pretty simple.  They can seperate colors easily with an .ai file,  
which most print companies take (contact them, as they may take  
ooooold versions of .ai's only).

I suggest making a layer which has the intended shirt color on it,  
design with that in the background, and then either remove, or post a  
message in the layer to remove before printing.  Otherwise, if you're  
doing multiple spot colors, just use your swatch to designate them  
and the printer can do a match from that.

J

lia bulaong wrote:

> Almighty List Peeps,
>
> Working on something in Ilustrator that's supposed to get sent off to
> get printed onto a t-shirt, which I've never had to do before, anyone
> have tips?
>
> Lia
>
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From: morry <murray.baloney@gmail.com>
Date: September 18, 2005 1:24:31 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: tips for t-shirt printing?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

If it's going to be done as a screen print rather than plastisol
transfer, sublimation etc. you have to keep in mind that super thin
lines in a design will have to be fattened up or they will not print
well (break up etc.).

Also, keep in mind that colos print differently on fabric than paper
so make sure even if you give PMS colors eveyryone is clear on the
acutal print color you want as the end result. If you can see a
pre-production sample it's best (probably will be charged $20-75 for
it)  and if you want to avoid the charge for a pre-production sample
tell them you want to be there the day of the printing to be able to
approve the colors.

Morry

On 9/18/05, Jeff Gray <jeff@grayfuse.com> wrote:
> Pretty simple.  They can seperate colors easily with an .ai file,  
> which
> most print companies take (contact them, as they may take ooooold
> versions of .ai's only).
>
> I suggest making a layer which has the intended shirt color on it,
> design with that in the background, and then either remove, or post a
> message in the layer to remove before printing.  Otherwise, if you're
> doing multiple spot colors, just use your swatch to designate them and
> the printer can do a match from that.
>
> J
>
> lia bulaong wrote:
>
>> Almighty List Peeps,
>>
>> Working on something in Ilustrator that's supposed to get sent off to
>> get printed onto a t-shirt, which I've never had to do before, anyone
>> have tips?
>>
>> Lia
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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 18, 2005 5:29:43 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: tips for t-shirt printing?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

careful with gradients too, some printers can do em, but some can't

On Sep 18, 2005, at 12:16 AM, Jeff Gray wrote:

> Pretty simple.  They can seperate colors easily with an .ai file,  
> which most print companies take (contact them, as they may take  
> ooooold versions of .ai's only).
>
> I suggest making a layer which has the intended shirt color on it,  
> design with that in the background, and then either remove, or post  
> a message in the layer to remove before printing.  Otherwise, if  
> you're doing multiple spot colors, just use your swatch to  
> designate them and the printer can do a match from that.
>
> J
>
> lia bulaong wrote:
>
>> Almighty List Peeps,
>>
>> Working on something in Ilustrator that's supposed to get sent off to
>> get printed onto a t-shirt, which I've never had to do before, anyone
>> have tips?
>>
>> Lia
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From: Daniel Raffel <sumbits@thincvox.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 12:58:15 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: tips for t-shirt printing?
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What follows is my suggestion for a NY area, professional silkscreen  
operator.  My experience dates back to 2001...so...keep that in mind.

Once upon a time, I needed to mass-transfer a silkscreen onto  
tshirts.  I asked some friends who own, and operate, clothing shops  
downtown where they turn for production.  Somewhat surprisingly I got  
the same answer from everyone: Pro Graphix in Long Island City.

My order was simple and it probably made it all the easier for them  
to do a great job.  If you visit in person you'll probably find that  
their plant is rather impressive technologically.  I am not sure what  
they offer these days but I appreciated that they can poly bag each  
shirt individually (and add tags/labels if you have them made up  
elsewhere.)  If you're looking for time with a "designer" who looks  
over your art you're not gonna get it without paying but you can  
email your documents and get immediate feedback.  They made it clear  
to me that they don't want to print bad shirts/tshirts/sweatshirts/ 
etc which make them look bad.

Their inventory was very familiar looking -- it's sort of a who's who  
of skatewear labels and major recording artists who are going on mega- 
monster-tours.  I guess what I'm saying is don't expect the royal  
treatment if you hit them up with a 100< tshirt order.  They will do  
a great job but I think they are really after the 1000+ order.

I was very happy with the turn around time, results, and price.  So  
far, the folks I suggested have also been happy with the results.   
It's been awhile but here's the information from my Address Book, not  
sure which info/name is more accurate but it's definitely pointing to  
the same place.

Pro Graphix
718-937-2020
prographix@qwest.net

Art-Fx
Richard DiBarnardo
30-40 41st Ave.
Long Island City, New York 11101
artfxink@aol.com

Because they are industry oriented, they tend to ask immediately  
where you got their name/info, feel free to drop my name.  I can't  
say it will get you anywhere but it will certainly answer the question.

Regards, Daniel Raffel

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From: Daniel Raffel <sumbits@thincvox.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 1:07:18 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: And now a cheap silkscreen printing tutorial
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

What follows is a "cheap screen printing tutorial" from 'craftgrrl'  
-- it's a novel walkthru that seriously impressed me the first time I  
read about it (still haven't tried it myself tho):
http://www.livejournal.com/community/craftgrrl/3674467.html

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From: Seung Taek Lee <stl202@nyu.edu>
Date: September 17, 2005 11:24:36 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: 6th Ave Fela market...
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Anyone knows where they moved to?

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From: Michelle Kempner <guarana63@gmail.com>
Date: September 17, 2005 6:56:15 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: 6th Ave Fela market...
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

it took me a while to figure out what fela was!  the flea market moved
over to hell's kitchen...
http://www.hellskitchenfleamarket.com/

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From: Nakiso <itp@nakiso.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 10:00:22 AM EDT
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Subject: Re: 6th Ave Fela market...
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

That makes two of us Michelle! I thought it was somehow something to  
do with Fela Kuti...i was all excited, but after a close read,  
Flea!!!! It reminded me of Wycleff's album with Biship...

Anyway, hope you're well.

- N
>>> Michelle Kempner<guarana63@gmail.com> 09/17 6:56 PM >>>
it took me a while to figure out what fela was!  the flea market moved
over to hell's kitchen...
http://www.hellskitchenfleamarket.com/

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From: Nakiso <itp@nakiso.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 10:52:39 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: 6th Ave Fela market... - oops
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

sorry, didn't mean to send to the entire list.


>>> Nakiso<itp@nakiso.com> 09/19 10:00 AM >>>
That makes two of us Michelle! I thought it was somehow something to  
do with Fela Kuti...i was all excited, but after a close read,  
Flea!!!! It reminded me of Wycleff's album with Biship...

Anyway, hope you're well.

- N
>>> Michelle Kempner<guarana63@gmail.com> 09/17 6:56 PM >>>
it took me a while to figure out what fela was!  the flea market moved
over to hell's kitchen...
http://www.hellskitchenfleamarket.com/

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From: Marianne Petit <marianne.petit@nyu.edu>
Date: September 15, 2005 6:49:25 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Assistive Technology List
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hello Alumni List.
We've just started an assistive technology list.
I hope you'll join us ....
M

--------------------------

Want to talk about assistive technology?
Join the ITP Assistive Technology List!

This list was established to begin and facilitate dialog around
assistive technology at ITP and throughout the NYU Community --
designers and clinicians, faculty, alumni and students --  talking to
each other and brainstorming together.

So, go to http://forums.nyu.edu
and join
itp-assistivetech

Once you've joined, let us know you're there!

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From: "jack . davis" <jack@panix.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 12:19:44 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Assistive Technology List
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Is there any current work on VR or other visualization applications for
assisting patients in stages of recovery (i.e., from injuries, etc.)?




> --------------------------
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> This list was established to begin and facilitate dialog around
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> each other and brainstorming together.
>
> So, go to http://forums.nyu.edu
> and join
> itp-assistivetech
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> Once you've joined, let us know you're there!
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From: Steve Bull <bull@el.net>
Date: September 19, 2005 1:12:05 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Assistive Technology List
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Human Interface Technology Lab - VR Pain Control
The pain management techniques in use are not good enough. ... In all of
our VR pain control studies, patients, (especially children and teenaged
burn ...
www.hitl.washington.edu/research/burn/ - 35k - Sep 17, 2005 - Cached -
Similar pages

google search string "pain management VR" with link to article i
remembered on VR and burn patient skin grafting


> Is there any current work on VR or other visualization applications  
> for
> assisting patients in stages of recovery (i.e., from injuries, etc.)?
>
>
>
>
>> --------------------------
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>> each other and brainstorming together.
>>
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>> and join
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-- 
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steve@ctlss.com
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From: Marianne Petit <marianne.petit@nyu.edu>
Date: September 15, 2005 6:51:18 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: ITP Video List
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Oh. also....

Some of you may not know that there is an ITP Video List.

It's pretty low traffic, but, if you have a video question and need  
an answer you'll get a response pretty quickly.

So ...
go to http://forums.nyu.edu
and join
itp-video


Marianne


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From: itp_alum@yangster.com
Date: September 19, 2005 1:44:42 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: 2 Questions
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hi List,

1) Does anyone have experience with using this software called  
Bookminder?
   It's a database program for booksellers that's written in  
Filemaker Pro.

2) Can anyone recommend a super techie who is comfortable with both Mac
and PC platforms to work with an elderly and somewhat eccentric man?
Need to help him transfer a bunch of files from a Win XP machine over  
to a
new Powerbook.  This person should have infinite patience and know  
exactly
what he's doing.  I said "he" because it's better if this techie is a  
male
for various reasons...
Please forward me names and rates off list.


Much thanks!
Cindy




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From: Bob Berger <berger.cvr@gmail.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 7:48:10 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Avast, me hearties! (Especially the Pastafarian hearties!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

It's...
Talk Like A Pirate Day!

-- 
Bob Berger
www.charlievictorromeo.com
http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
berger.cvr@gmail.com

"There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his  
hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
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Date: September 19, 2005 9:13:13 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Avast, me hearties! (Especially the Pastafarian hearties!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

ARRRRRRGGGG!!! So it be!


Bob Berger wrote:

> It's...
>
>
>   Talk Like A Pirate Day!
>   <http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html#>
>
>
> -- 
> Bob Berger
> www.charlievictorromeo.com <http://www.charlievictorromeo.com>
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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 12:34:51 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Avast, me hearties! (Especially the Pastafarian hearties!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

harrr, i was at the dee bee ay saloon last night and what did me  
unpatched-heye see but a full score of land-lubbers, dressed like  
pirates!  twas all "arrrrg" this and heearrrrrr" that, i almost lost  
me ale in the confusion.

seriously tho.  i guess they were ringing the day in a bit early....

On Sep 19, 2005, at 7:48 AM, Bob Berger wrote:

> It's...
>
>
> Talk Like A Pirate Day!
>
> -- 
> Bob Berger
> www.charlievictorromeo.com
> http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
> berger.cvr@gmail.com
>
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> hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L.  
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From: maya gorton <mayagorton@gmail.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 1:11:34 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Avast, me hearties! (Especially the Pastafarian hearties!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

And now for the inevitable pirate jokes:

What's a pirate's favorite beer?
P.B. AAAARRRRRR!

On 9/19/05, eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com> wrote:
harrr, i was at the dee bee ay saloon last night and what did me
unpatched-heye see but a full score of land-lubbers, dressed like
pirates!twas all "arrrrg" this and heearrrrrr" that, i almost lost  
me
ale in the confusion.

seriously tho.i guess they were ringing the day in a bit early....

On Sep 19, 2005, at 7:48 AM, Bob Berger wrote:

 > It's...
 >
 >
 > Talk Like A Pirate Day!
 >
 > --
 > Bob Berger
 > www.charlievictorromeo.com
 > http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
 > berger.cvr@gmail.com
 >
 > "There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his
 > hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L.
 > Mencken
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<lists@lowfrequency.org>
Date: September 19, 2005 2:26:38 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Avast, me hearties! (Especially the Pastafarian hearties!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

What's a pirates favorite Subway train?

The "RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" train!

On Sep 19, 2005, at 1:11 PM, maya gorton wrote:

> And now for the inevitable pirate jokes:
>
>  What's a pirate's favorite beer?
>  P.B. AAAARRRRRR!
>
> On 9/19/05, eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com> wrote:
>> unpatched-heye see but a full score of land-lubbers, dressed like
>> pirates!twas all "arrrrg" this and heearrrrrr" that, i almost  
>> lost me
>> ale in the confusion.
>>
>> seriously tho.i guess they were ringing the day in a bit  
>> early....
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2005, at 7:48 AM, Bob Berger wrote:
>>
>> > It's...
>> >
>> >
>> > Talk Like A Pirate Day!
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bob Berger
>> > www.charlievictorromeo.com
>> > http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
>> > berger.cvr@gmail.com
>> >
>> > "There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his
>> > hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L.
>> > Mencken
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From: "James G. Robinson" <james.robinson@nyu.edu>
Date: September 19, 2005 2:29:40 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Avast, me hearties! (Especially the Pastafarian hearties!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Yet Another Pirate Harrrrrharrrharr

http://www.cartoonbank.com/assets/1/43774_m.gif

Cheers J

[aka]

James G. Robinson
Text and Technology
http://akazelig.com/

evan.raskob wrote:
> What's a pirates favorite Subway train?
> The "RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" train!
> On Sep 19, 2005, at 1:11 PM, maya gorton wrote:
>> And now for the inevitable pirate jokes:
>>
>>  What's a pirate's favorite beer?
>>  P.B. AAAARRRRRR!
>>
>> On 9/19/05, eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com> wrote:
>>
>>> unpatched-heye see but a full score of land-lubbers, dressed like
>>> pirates!  twas all "arrrrg" this and heearrrrrr" that, i almost  
>>> lost me
>>> ale in the confusion.
>>>
>>> seriously tho.  i guess they were ringing the day in a bit early....
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2005, at 7:48 AM, Bob Berger wrote:
>>>
>>> > It's...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Talk Like A Pirate Day!
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Bob Berger
>>> > www.charlievictorromeo.com
>>> > http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
>>> > berger.cvr@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > "There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his
>>> > hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L.
>>> > Mencken
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From: Jeff Gray <jeff@grayfuse.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 2:34:21 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Avast, me hearties! (Especially the Pastafarian hearties!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Have you guys heard about that new Pirate movie???






its rated RRRRRRRRRRRRR

J

PS:  I love pirates day.


evan.raskob wrote:

> What's a pirates favorite Subway train?
>
> The "RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" train!
>
> On Sep 19, 2005, at 1:11 PM, maya gorton wrote:
>
>> And now for the inevitable pirate jokes:
>>
>>  What's a pirate's favorite beer?
>>  P.B. AAAARRRRRR!
>>
>> On 9/19/05, eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com> wrote:
>>
>>> unpatched-heye see but a full score of land-lubbers, dressed like
>>> pirates!  twas all "arrrrg" this and heearrrrrr" that, i almost  
>>> lost me
>>> ale in the confusion.
>>>
>>> seriously tho.  i guess they were ringing the day in a bit early....
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2005, at 7:48 AM, Bob Berger wrote:
>>>
>>> > It's...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Talk Like A Pirate Day!
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Bob Berger
>>> > www.charlievictorromeo.com
>>> > http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
>>> > berger.cvr@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > "There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his
>>> > hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L.
>>> > Mencken
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From: joshua goldberg <josh@goldbergs.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 4:00:07 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Avast, me hearties! (Especially the Pastafarian hearties!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

a pirate walks into a bar, with a steering wheel attached in a  
somewhat complicated fashion to his lower torso and hips.  it looks  
particularly uncomfortable, and the pirate winces as he sits on the  
bar stool.

'what's the deal with the steering wheel?' asks one of the barflys.

the pirate replies, 'aarrrrrrrr, it's driving me nuts.'

On Sep 19, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Jeff Gray wrote:

> Have you guys heard about that new Pirate movie???
>
>
>
>
>
>
> its rated RRRRRRRRRRRRR
>
> J
>
> PS:  I love pirates day.
>
>
> evan.raskob wrote:
>
>
>> What's a pirates favorite Subway train?
>>
>> The "RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" train!
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2005, at 1:11 PM, maya gorton wrote:
>>
>>
>>> And now for the inevitable pirate jokes:
>>>
>>>  What's a pirate's favorite beer?
>>>  P.B. AAAARRRRRR!
>>>
>>> On 9/19/05, eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> unpatched-heye see but a full score of land-lubbers, dressed like
>>>> pirates!  twas all "arrrrg" this and heearrrrrr" that, i almost  
>>>> lost me
>>>> ale in the confusion.
>>>>
>>>> seriously tho.  i guess they were ringing the day in a bit  
>>>> early....
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 19, 2005, at 7:48 AM, Bob Berger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > It's...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Talk Like A Pirate Day!
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Bob Berger
>>>> > www.charlievictorromeo.com
>>>> > http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
>>>> > berger.cvr@gmail.com
>>>> >
>>>> > "There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his
>>>> > hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L.
>>>> > Mencken
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From: Veera Kauste <vkauste@hotmail.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 7:31:39 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: 2 rooms for rent - $ 750
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I'm (still) looking for a roommate - 750 per month and you get two of  
your very own rooms on your very own floor! :-) Available  
immediately. On City Island: Check out www.cityisland.com. It's a tad  
of a hike from ITP but I did the commute myself some years ago and  
it's 100% doable - and City Island is like no other place, more like  
New England than NYC. The commute was about 50 minutes door to door.

It's a large, beautiful, Victorian-style house in a very safe and  
extremely friendly neighborhood (sailing, swimming, kayaking,  
restaurants, galleries). Lots of light, beautiful hard-wood floors.  
I'm a 34-year-old, ex-ITP, European female. I don't smoke, please  
don't either.

- Ownliving room and bedroom on the third floor
- Dishwasher, washer & dryer, big backyard.
- Private beach
- Parking always easy to find
- wireless internet and cable TV
- Shared large eat-in kitchen and a huge bathroom
- 7-minute bus ride from # 6 subway; 5-minute drive from 95 (Exit 8B)  
and Hutchinson; 20-minute drive to White Plains; 10 minutes to New  
Rochelle etc.

If you know of someone interested let them know to call Veera:  
917-743 1533

Thanks!
Veera
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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Anitarah@aol.com
Date: September 19, 2005 7:41:51 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Fwd: our next All-Media Party & our first-ever Game Night
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From: events@mediabistro.com (Taffy Akner | mediabistro.com)
Date: September 19, 2005 6:08:40 PM EDT
To: anitarah@aol.com (Anita Rahman)
Subject: our next All-Media Party & our first-ever Game Night
Reply-To: events@mediabistro.com


Hey Anita,
I wanted to remind you about our All-Media Party tomorrow night (full  
details below), and I also wanted to invite you to an event we're  
having this Wednesday, September 21st at El Cid in Silverlake. I hope  
youll join us for some let-loose, no-holds-barred fun at our first- 
ever mb Game Night. Boggle, Scrabble, Trivial Pursuit -- they'll all  
be there, and so will writers, photographers, and designers to take  
the night off, gather around game stations (and a cash bar), all with  
the chance of winning mb goodies.

Please feel free to forward this link to other media professionals  
you know and invite them to join us (they'll need to RSVP separately  
using the link below):
http://www.ersvp.com/reply/lagamenight

Yours,

Taffy
director of education, west coast
mediabistro.com


mediabistro.com's
ALL-MEDIA PARTY IN LOS ANGELES
What: drinks + conversation
Who: about 75 full-time media professionals (all types!)
Why: To bring about greater community among media professionals (and  
because it's fun!)
When:
Tuesday, September 20
7:00 pm to 9:00 pm

Where:
Equator Books
1103 Abbot Kinney Blvd.
Venice, CA
Parking: Street parking is available.
view map
RSVPs ARE REQUIRED.

www.ersvp.com/reply/laallmedia
If you have questions or problems RSVP'ing online, please email  
events@mediabistro.com and let us know...
Hosted by mediabistro.com and Fitness Magazine editor Nicole Dorsey!
Food/Drink: Complimentary appetizers and drinks

Sponsored by:

drink responsibly.


about Equator Books
Equator Books, a spacious bookstore and gallery, is now available for  
special events, providing an elegant and minimalist setting that  
gives guests the opportunity to experience an unconventional venue in  
a distinctive, up-and-coming location. The store's exposed brick  
walls, birch bookcases and impressive collection of rare books and  
art will leave a lasting impression on each guest.
mediabistro.com welcomes you to experience the space first-hand for  
our monthly industry happy hour, complete with complimentary  
beverages and food. It's the perfect opportunity to head to hip Abbot  
Kinney Blvd in central Venice Beach to mingle with the locals and  
your fellow media professionals. mediabistro.com and Equator Books  
invite you to come and see what everyone is talking about, and  
experience the buzz first-hand.

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From: Dana Karwas <dlk253@nyu.edu>
Date: September 19, 2005 8:18:01 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: wanted: office/work/studio space
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


hi list,

I am looking to sublet an office/work/studio type space to house a  
small production company.
Anything around 200 sq.ft. with windows would be good.

Oct 1st
Manhattan or DUMBO

thanks
dana

dana@GorillaKingdom.com










Dana Karwas
GORILLA KINGDOM
www.GorillaKingdom.com
dana@gorillakingdom.com

From: Marianne Petit <marianne.petit@nyu.edu>
Date: September 19, 2005 9:16:46 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: VR Applications
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

At RESNA this year there was a session on "usability issues in the  
clinical application of virtual reality technology" and the people  
on it were:

Maria T. Shultheis, PhD, Director, Virtual Reality Research Lab,  
Kessler Medical Rehabilitation Research & Education Corp (KMRREC)
Lisa K. Simone, PhD, Senior Research Scientist,Kessler Medical  
Rehabilitation Research & Education Corp (KMRREC)
Deborah Hix, PhD, Senior Research Scientist, Systems Research Center,  
Department of Computer
Albert A. Rizzo, PhD, Research Scientist and Research Assistant  
Professor, Institute for Creative Technologies and School of  
Gerontology, University of Southern California

and...
Someone from CAT named Jeremi Sudol came and spoke to our class last  
year about some work he was doing at RUSK
(email me offlist for his email address)

and...
VR Goggles Heal Scars of War
From: Wired News - 08/22/2005
By: Xeni Jardin

An experimental virtual-reality system that vividly replicates combat  
trauma
is being used to treat soldiers suffering from shellshock. The  
Institute for
Creative Technologies at the University of Southern California  
developed the
system last year with the U.S. Office of Naval Research. Cmdr. Russell
Shilling with the Office of Naval Research says the project is novel  
in that
it attempts to treat post-traumatic stress disorder early, rather  
than years,
sometimes decades, after the trauma. The patient wears headphones and VR
goggles, while a clinician uses a control tablet to choose from an  
array of
artificial environments and enhance them with stress-inducing audio and
visual effects that can be dialed up or down according to how  
patients react
physiologically. Institute for Creative Technologies virtual therapy
developer Dr. Albert Rizzo says odors will be added to the mix with a  
device
that generates smells. Dr. James Spira with the San Diego Medical  
Center's
Health Psychology Program says VR's appeal as a therapeutic tool lies  
in its
ability to reproduce a trauma's full sensory input, and adds that the  
new
system is more effective as a healing aid than any other tool he has  
used.
Backers of VR therapy experiments hope that part of a $1.5 billion  
increase
in veterans' health care funding authorized by Congress in July will be
committed to the development of similar technologies.

Read the entire article at:
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,68575,00.html

Links:
Institute for Creative Technologies
http://www.ict.usc.edu/disp.php? 
PHPSESSID=e535e235f56ab46c673d47ed5c3480ae

Development of a Virtual Reality Therapy Application for Iraq War  
Veterans with PTSD
http://www.cri.haifa.ac.il/index.html?http://www.cri.haifa.ac.il/ 
events/2005/vr/vr_schedul
e.php



On Sep 19, 2005, at 12:19 PM, jack . davis wrote:
Is there any current work on VR or other visualization applications for
assisting patients in stages of recovery (i.e., from injuries, etc.)?





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From: jia LIm <djiartb@gmail.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 11:33:07 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: artist studio
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$805 - Sublease Monroe art Center

350 sqft

Sublease artist studio / office space
(or share )
in Hoboken Monroe art center
(http://www.monroecenter.com)
including all Util.
high ceiling Nothern exposure lots of lights

call 917-748-3123
		this is in or around Hoboken
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Date: September 19, 2005 11:37:45 PM EDT
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Subject: sublet apt
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$1628 / 1br
Pavonis Newport NJ

manhattan view
700sqft 1 bedroom apt
GW building
17 floor
available Oct 5
1.5 month deposit

close to Path
call : 201-626-5129

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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Lisa cohen  
<lisahcohen@gmail.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 9:20:57 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Temple/Synagogue Recommendation
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Hey List,
I think I'm going to be Jewish at least one day this year and that of  
course would be on PURIM! Ha, ha.Seriously though, I want  
toattend aYom Kippur service either in Manhattan or Brooklyn, but  
I have no idea what temple to check out. We're actually thinking long  
term as one day we may even join a temple. I think we're looking for  
something in the Conservative or Reform movements that isn't too  
formal, but not hippy-dippy either. Wewant it to be progressive  
andtolerant but also traditional. It would be great tooif the  
the sermons were philosophical and intellectual. Anybody have  
something to suggest?
Thanks,
Lisa
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Date: September 19, 2005 9:33:05 AM EDT
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Subject: Re: Temple/Synagogue Recommendation
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http://www.newshul.org/

Hey List,
I think I'm going to be Jewish at least one day this year and that of  
course would be on PURIM! Ha, ha.Seriously though, I want  
toattend aYom Kippur service either in Manhattan or Brooklyn, but  
I have no idea what temple to check out. We're actually thinking long  
term as one day we may even join a temple. I think we're looking for  
something in the Conservative or Reform movements that isn't too  
formal, but not hippy-dippy either. Wewant it to be progressive  
andtolerant but also traditional. It would be great tooif the  
the sermons were philosophical and intellectual. Anybody have  
something to suggest?
Thanks,
Lisa
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Date: September 19, 2005 5:37:27 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: Temple/Synagogue Recommendation
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the NYU service at the Kimmel center.
http://www.nyu.edu/kimmel.center/

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From: betenoir@echonyc.com
Date: September 19, 2005 5:43:09 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: Temple/Synagogue Recommendation
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http://www.bj.org/
http://www.bj.org/hhd_elsewhere_5766.php

Clyde


> I think I'm going to be Jewish at least one day this year and that  
> of course would be on PURIM!  Ha, ha.  Seriously though, I want to  
> attend a Yom Kippur service either in Manhattan or Brooklyn, but I  
> have no idea what temple to check out. We're actually thinking long  
> term as one day we may even join a temple.  I think we're looking  
> for something in the Conservative or Reform movements that isn't  
> too formal, but not hippy-dippy either.  We want it to be  
> progressive and tolerant but also traditional.  It would be great  
> too if the the sermons were philosophical and intellectual.   
> Anybody have something to suggest?
> Thanks,
> Lisa

From: morry <murray.baloney@gmail.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 11:43:20 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Temple/Synagogue Recommendation
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I've been to Beth Simchat Torah a few times. They have an open door
policy for the High Holidays- everyone is welcome.

http://www.cbst.org/

While It's the largest gay/lesbian/bi/transgender friendly synagogue
in the world the High Holidays have a huge turnout and it's a mixed
and welcoming crowd.  Crowd is the operative so if you want a small,
warm, fuzzy place to go you might do better in a smaller place.  They
typically hold Yom Kippur services at Javits Center because it gets
such high attendance because of the open-door policy. This year
services will be held elsewhere.

Morry




On 9/19/05, Lisa cohen <lisahcohen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey List,
> I think I'm going to be Jewish at least one day this year and that  
> of course
> would be on PURIM!  Ha, ha.  Seriously though, I want to attend a  
> Yom Kippur
> service either in Manhattan or Brooklyn, but I have no idea what  
> temple to
> check out. We're actually thinking long term as one day we may even  
> join a
> temple.  I think we're looking for something in the Conservative or  
> Reform
> movements that isn't too formal, but not hippy-dippy either.  We  
> want it to
> be progressive and tolerant but also traditional.  It would be  
> great too if
> the the sermons were philosophical and intellectual.  Anybody have  
> something
> to suggest?
> Thanks,
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From: morry <murray.baloney@gmail.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 11:45:11 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Temple/Synagogue Recommendation
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

follow up, by open door it means it's free. you don't need to be a
member nor do you need tickets to attend but you should pre-register
on the website.

On 9/19/05, morry <murray.baloney@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been to Beth Simchat Torah a few times. They have an open door
> policy for the High Holidays- everyone is welcome.
>
> http://www.cbst.org/
>
> While It's the largest gay/lesbian/bi/transgender friendly synagogue
> in the world the High Holidays have a huge turnout and it's a mixed
> and welcoming crowd.  Crowd is the operative so if you want a small,
> warm, fuzzy place to go you might do better in a smaller place.  They
> typically hold Yom Kippur services at Javits Center because it gets
> such high attendance because of the open-door policy. This year
> services will be held elsewhere.
>
> Morry
>
>
>
>
> On 9/19/05, Lisa cohen <lisahcohen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey List,
>> I think I'm going to be Jewish at least one day this year and that  
>> of course
>> would be on PURIM!  Ha, ha.  Seriously though, I want to attend a  
>> Yom Kippur
>> service either in Manhattan or Brooklyn, but I have no idea what  
>> temple to
>> check out. We're actually thinking long term as one day we may  
>> even join a
>> temple.  I think we're looking for something in the Conservative  
>> or Reform
>> movements that isn't too formal, but not hippy-dippy either.  We  
>> want it to
>> be progressive and tolerant but also traditional.  It would be  
>> great too if
>> the the sermons were philosophical and intellectual.  Anybody have  
>> something
>> to suggest?
>> Thanks,
>> Lisa --- You are currently subscribed to itp-alumni as:
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From: Edward Guttman <eguttman@nyc.rr.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 11:58:08 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Temple/Synagogue Recommendation
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We like West End Synagogue, which is Reconstructionist.
Ed

On Sep 19, 2005, at 9:20 AM, Lisa cohen wrote:

> Hey List,
> I think I'm going to be Jewish at least one day this year and that  
> of course would be on PURIM!  Ha, ha.  Seriously though, I want to  
> attend a Yom Kippur service either in Manhattan or Brooklyn, but I  
> have no idea what temple to check out. We're actually thinking long  
> term as one day we may even join a temple.  I think we're looking  
> for something in the Conservative or Reform movements that isn't  
> too formal, but not hippy-dippy either. We want it to be  
> progressive and tolerant but also traditional.  It would be great  
> too if the the sermons were philosophical and intellectual.   
> Anybody have something to suggest?
> Thanks,
> Lisa
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From: Eric Forman <itp@ericforman.com>
Date: September 18, 2005 5:45:41 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Cuba
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it's time for another round of the ITP List's favorite posting: what  
to do in a foreign place.  so: i'm going to cuba on friday, for 1  
week.  total spur of the moment.  i don't know anything, and i don't  
have time to read up, and i don't know a word of spanish.  stupid,  
but that's how it goes.  i promised a friend i would take a trip with  
him and decided it would be fun to let him decide and just accept.   
so he called me and said "guess what, we're going to cuba."  any  
advice or recommendations welcome.  we're going through Nassau btw.   
i think we are willing to do some adventuring, but would like a fair  
amount of beach relaxing, and given our short amount of time there,  
we won't be stingy if it will make things easier.

thanks.

e

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From: "Howard Greenstein (public)" <public@howardgreenstein.com>
Date: September 18, 2005 10:06:43 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cuba
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I hate to be the one to bring this up, but I have 3 words for you.

Tropical Storm Rita


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/220538.shtml?prob

Could hit Cuba this Tuesday. Might be a little less fun -  you should  
also confirm your Nassau stuff- it should be there tomorrow.

Howard


Eric Forman wrote:

> it's time for another round of the ITP List's favorite posting:  
> what  to do in a foreign place.  so: i'm going to cuba on friday,  
> for 1  week.  total spur of the moment.  i don't know anything, and  
> i don't  have time to read up, and i don't know a word of spanish.   
> stupid,  but that's how it goes.  i promised a friend i would take  
> a trip with  him and decided it would be fun to let him decide and  
> just accept.   so he called me and said "guess what, we're going to  
> cuba."  any  advice or recommendations welcome.  we're going  
> through Nassau btw.   i think we are willing to do some  
> adventuring, but would like a fair  amount of beach relaxing, and  
> given our short amount of time there,  we won't be stingy if it  
> will make things easier.
>
> thanks.
>
> e
>
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From: elliott <elliottmalkin@gmail.com>
Date: September 18, 2005 10:55:48 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cuba
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

it has also been widely noted that cuba is way ahead of us as far as
storm preparedness...

in any case, a week is pretty tight for cuba (for anywhere really).
havana is cool but it would be great to get out to the countryside.
Vinales is absolutely gorgeous, great for hikes / bike rentals. if you
can afford it, it wouldn't be a bad idea to rent a car. from vinales
you can get to some beautiful pristine remote beaches. but you'll need
to rent the car in havana.

make sure you bring an extra large wad of cash. your american cards
will not work in cuba. it's part of the economic embargo. and cuba is
not cheap. i would bring 700 or 800 dollars in cash to be safe. make
sure to budget for your final taxi to the airport and the exit tax
when you leave the country.


On 9/18/05, Howard Greenstein (public) <public@howardgreenstein.com>  
wrote:
> I hate to be the one to bring this up, but I have 3 words for you.
>
> Tropical Storm Rita
>
>
> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/220538.shtml?prob
>
> Could hit Cuba this Tuesday. Might be a little less fun -  you should
> also confirm your Nassau stuff- it should be there tomorrow.
>
> Howard
>
>
> Eric Forman wrote:
>
>> it's time for another round of the ITP List's favorite posting: what
>> to do in a foreign place.  so: i'm going to cuba on friday, for 1
>> week.  total spur of the moment.  i don't know anything, and i don't
>> have time to read up, and i don't know a word of spanish.  stupid,
>> but that's how it goes.  i promised a friend i would take a trip with
>> him and decided it would be fun to let him decide and just accept.
>> so he called me and said "guess what, we're going to cuba."  any
>> advice or recommendations welcome.  we're going through Nassau btw.
>> i think we are willing to do some adventuring, but would like a fair
>> amount of beach relaxing, and given our short amount of time there,
>> we won't be stingy if it will make things easier.
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>> e
>>
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From: Veronique <veronique@v-ro.com>
Date: September 18, 2005 10:58:52 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cuba
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Another piece of news which might put a bumper to your spontaneous  
travel plans.

Cuba no longer accept US dollars. Fidel said so. I remember hearing  
it in the news.
I did a search for you just to make sure it is still the case. It is.
http://www.acrosscuba.com/index.php?L=3&B=35

So make sure to get Euros (Euros are most welcome there).


----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Greenstein (public)"  
<public@howardgreenstein.com>
> I hate to be the one to bring this up, but I have 3 words for you.
> Tropical Storm Rita
> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/220538.shtml? 
> prob Could hit Cuba this Tuesday. Might be a little less fun -  you  
> should also confirm your Nassau stuff- it should be there tomorrow.


> Eric Forman wrote:
>> it's time for another round of the ITP List's favorite posting:  
>> what  to do in a foreign place.  so: i'm going to cuba on friday,  
>> for 1  week. total spur of the moment.  i don't know anything, and  
>> i don't  have time to read up, and i don't know a word of  
>> spanish.  stupid,  but that's how it goes.  i promised a friend i  
>> would take a trip with  him and decided it would be fun to let him  
>> decide and just accept.   so he called me and said "guess what,  
>> we're going to cuba."  any  advice or recommendations welcome.   
>> we're going through Nassau btw.   i think we are willing to do  
>> some adventuring, but would like a fair  amount of beach relaxing,  
>> and given our short amount of time there,  we won't be stingy if  
>> it will make things easier.


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From: elliott <elliottmalkin@gmail.com>
Date: September 18, 2005 11:23:34 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cuba
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

This isn't exactly true. I was there in January after the currency
shift. What it means in practice is that they don't widely accept
dollars for normal everyday transactions in the streets and hotels and
casas particulares. But they will change your dollars for
"convertibles," the new currency which is fixed to the dollar, at the
airport and banks, with a commission. The reason Cubans won't accept
dollars is that they don't want to have to pay the commission fee for
conversion. But if you offer to pay some percentage over the cost to
cover the commission they will likely accept your dollars, especially
if it means going elsewhere with your business.

On 9/18/05, Veronique <veronique@v-ro.com> wrote:
> Another piece of news which might put a bumper to your spontaneous  
> travel
> plans.
>
> Cuba no longer accept US dollars. Fidel said so. I remember hearing  
> it in
> the news.
> I did a search for you just to make sure it is still the case. It is.
> http://www.acrosscuba.com/index.php?L=3&B=35
>
> So make sure to get Euros (Euros are most welcome there).
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Howard Greenstein (public)" <public@howardgreenstein.com>
>> I hate to be the one to bring this up, but I have 3 words for you.
>> Tropical Storm Rita
>> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/220538.shtml? 
>> prob Could
>> hit Cuba this Tuesday. Might be a little less fun -  you should also
>> confirm your Nassau stuff- it should be there tomorrow.
>
>
>> Eric Forman wrote:
>>> it's time for another round of the ITP List's favorite posting:  
>>> what  to
>>> do in a foreign place.  so: i'm going to cuba on friday, for 1   
>>> week.
>>> total spur of the moment.  i don't know anything, and i don't   
>>> have time
>>> to read up, and i don't know a word of spanish.  stupid,  but  
>>> that's how
>>> it goes.  i promised a friend i would take a trip with  him and  
>>> decided
>>> it would be fun to let him decide and just accept.   so he called  
>>> me and
>>> said "guess what, we're going to cuba."  any  advice or  
>>> recommendations
>>> welcome.  we're going through Nassau btw.   i think we are  
>>> willing to do
>>> some adventuring, but would like a fair  amount of beach  
>>> relaxing, and
>>> given our short amount of time there,  we won't be stingy if it  
>>> will make
>>> things easier.
>
>
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From: Veronique <veronique@v-ro.com>
Date: September 18, 2005 11:46:19 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cuba
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

According to the article, this was only enforced after April this year.
I wonder how much pressure was put on the population to conform.
All things considered, it may be worthwhile doing the exchange to  
Euros not getting the 10% penalty.

Anyway you would know better than me since I haven't been.
Eric will be able to tell us upon his return.


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Subject: Re: Cuba


This isn't exactly true. I was there in January after the currency
shift. What it means in practice is that they don't widely accept
dollars for normal everyday transactions in the streets and hotels and
casas particulares. But they will change your dollars for
"convertibles," the new currency which is fixed to the dollar, at the
airport and banks, with a commission. The reason Cubans won't accept
dollars is that they don't want to have to pay the commission fee for
conversion. But if you offer to pay some percentage over the cost to
cover the commission they will likely accept your dollars, especially
if it means going elsewhere with your business.

On 9/18/05, Veronique <veronique@v-ro.com> wrote:
> Another piece of news which might put a bumper to your spontaneous  
> travel
> plans.
>
> Cuba no longer accept US dollars. Fidel said so. I remember hearing  
> it in
> the news.
> I did a search for you just to make sure it is still the case. It is.
> http://www.acrosscuba.com/index.php?L=3&B=35
>
> So make sure to get Euros (Euros are most welcome there).
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Howard Greenstein (public)" <public@howardgreenstein.com>
> >I hate to be the one to bring this up, but I have 3 words for you.
> > Tropical Storm Rita
> > http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/220538.shtml? 
> prob > Could
> > hit Cuba this Tuesday. Might be a little less fun -  you should also
> > confirm your Nassau stuff- it should be there tomorrow.
>
>
> > Eric Forman wrote:
> >> it's time for another round of the ITP List's favorite posting:  
> what >> to
> >> do in a foreign place.  so: i'm going to cuba on friday, for 1   
> week.
> >> total spur of the moment.  i don't know anything, and i don't   
> have >> time
> >> to read up, and i don't know a word of spanish.  stupid,  but  
> that's >> how
> >> it goes.  i promised a friend i would take a trip with  him and  
> decided
> >> it would be fun to let him decide and just accept.   so he  
> called me >> and
> >> said "guess what, we're going to cuba."  any  advice or  
> recommendations
> >> welcome.  we're going through Nassau btw.   i think we are  
> willing to >> do
> >> some adventuring, but would like a fair  amount of beach  
> relaxing, and
> >> given our short amount of time there,  we won't be stingy if it  
> will >> make
> >> things easier.
>
>
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From: jon marcel <jon@kinephoria.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 12:46:22 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cuba
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

be very careful about getting in and out of the country and about not  
letting the US authorities catch on when you get back. the laws  
governing americans visiting cuba are really strict, and it is  
possible to end up with huge fines and even jail time for spending  
any money there. i was there a few years back, with legal travel  
papers and still had some difficulties. unfortunately, i didn't get  
out much while i was there, so i don't have a lot of recommendations  
for you. best of luck and have a safe and fun trip!

..j.





Eric Forman wrote:

> it's time for another round of the ITP List's favorite posting:  
> what  to do in a foreign place.  so: i'm going to cuba on friday,  
> for 1  week.  total spur of the moment.  i don't know anything, and  
> i don't  have time to read up, and i don't know a word of spanish.   
> stupid,  but that's how it goes.  i promised a friend i would take  
> a trip with  him and decided it would be fun to let him decide and  
> just accept.   so he called me and said "guess what, we're going to  
> cuba."  any  advice or recommendations welcome.  we're going  
> through Nassau btw.   i think we are willing to do some  
> adventuring, but would like a fair  amount of beach relaxing, and  
> given our short amount of time there,  we won't be stingy if it  
> will make things easier.
>
> thanks.
>
> e
>
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From: Eric Forman <itp@ericforman.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 2:28:14 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cuba
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

someone told me that canadian dollars are the way to go.


On Sep 18, 2005, at 11:46 PM, Veronique wrote:

> According to the article, this was only enforced after April this  
> year.
> I wonder how much pressure was put on the population to conform.
> All things considered, it may be worthwhile doing the exchange to  
> Euros not getting the 10% penalty.
>
> Anyway you would know better than me since I haven't been.
> Eric will be able to tell us upon his return.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "elliott" <elliottmalkin@gmail.com>
> To: "ITP Alumni" <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 11:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Cuba
>
>
> This isn't exactly true. I was there in January after the currency
> shift. What it means in practice is that they don't widely accept
> dollars for normal everyday transactions in the streets and hotels and
> casas particulares. But they will change your dollars for
> "convertibles," the new currency which is fixed to the dollar, at the
> airport and banks, with a commission. The reason Cubans won't accept
> dollars is that they don't want to have to pay the commission fee for
> conversion. But if you offer to pay some percentage over the cost to
> cover the commission they will likely accept your dollars, especially
> if it means going elsewhere with your business.
>
> On 9/18/05, Veronique <veronique@v-ro.com> wrote:
>
>> Another piece of news which might put a bumper to your spontaneous  
>> travel
>> plans.
>>
>> Cuba no longer accept US dollars. Fidel said so. I remember  
>> hearing it in
>> the news.
>> I did a search for you just to make sure it is still the case. It is.
>> http://www.acrosscuba.com/index.php?L=3&B=35
>>
>> So make sure to get Euros (Euros are most welcome there).
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Howard Greenstein (public)" <public@howardgreenstein.com>
>> >I hate to be the one to bring this up, but I have 3 words for you.
>> > Tropical Storm Rita
>> > http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/220538.shtml? 
>> prob > Could
>> > hit Cuba this Tuesday. Might be a little less fun -  you should  
>> also
>> > confirm your Nassau stuff- it should be there tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> > Eric Forman wrote:
>> >> it's time for another round of the ITP List's favorite posting:  
>> what >> to
>> >> do in a foreign place.  so: i'm going to cuba on friday, for 1   
>> week.
>> >> total spur of the moment.  i don't know anything, and i don't   
>> have >> time
>> >> to read up, and i don't know a word of spanish.  stupid,  but  
>> that's >> how
>> >> it goes.  i promised a friend i would take a trip with  him and  
>> decided
>> >> it would be fun to let him decide and just accept.   so he  
>> called me >> and
>> >> said "guess what, we're going to cuba."  any  advice or  
>> recommendations
>> >> welcome.  we're going through Nassau btw.   i think we are  
>> willing to >> do
>> >> some adventuring, but would like a fair  amount of beach  
>> relaxing, and
>> >> given our short amount of time there,  we won't be stingy if it  
>> will >> make
>> >> things easier.
>>
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From: Eric Forman <itp@ericforman.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 2:34:55 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cuba
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damn you howard

this could be serious, huh

well, let's see what happens in the next few days

what about more fun things to do?  didn't lots of ITP people go there  
a few years in a row for that digital arts thing?


On Sep 18, 2005, at 10:06 PM, Howard Greenstein (public) wrote:

> I hate to be the one to bring this up, but I have 3 words for you.
>
> Tropical Storm Rita
>
>
> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/220538.shtml?prob
>
> Could hit Cuba this Tuesday. Might be a little less fun -  you  
> should also confirm your Nassau stuff- it should be there tomorrow.
>
> Howard
>
>
> Eric Forman wrote:
>
>
>> it's time for another round of the ITP List's favorite posting:  
>> what  to do in a foreign place.  so: i'm going to cuba on friday,  
>> for 1  week.  total spur of the moment.  i don't know anything,  
>> and i don't  have time to read up, and i don't know a word of  
>> spanish.  stupid,  but that's how it goes.  i promised a friend i  
>> would take a trip with  him and decided it would be fun to let him  
>> decide and just accept.   so he called me and said "guess what,  
>> we're going to cuba."  any  advice or recommendations welcome.   
>> we're going through Nassau btw.   i think we are willing to do  
>> some adventuring, but would like a fair  amount of beach relaxing,  
>> and given our short amount of time there,  we won't be stingy if  
>> it will make things easier.
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>> e
>>
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From: Sasha Harris-Cronin <sasha@mortalspaces.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 2:39:51 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cuba
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I'd try Todd Holoubek.

sash.

On Sep 18, 2005, at 11:34 PM, Eric Forman wrote:

> damn you howard
>
> this could be serious, huh
>
> well, let's see what happens in the next few days
>
> what about more fun things to do?  didn't lots of ITP people go  
> there a few years in a row for that digital arts thing?
>
>
> On Sep 18, 2005, at 10:06 PM, Howard Greenstein (public) wrote:
>
>
>> I hate to be the one to bring this up, but I have 3 words for you.
>>
>> Tropical Storm Rita
>>
>>
>> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/220538.shtml?prob
>>
>> Could hit Cuba this Tuesday. Might be a little less fun -  you  
>> should also confirm your Nassau stuff- it should be there tomorrow.
>>
>> Howard
>>
>>
>> Eric Forman wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> it's time for another round of the ITP List's favorite posting:  
>>> what  to do in a foreign place.  so: i'm going to cuba on friday,  
>>> for 1  week.  total spur of the moment.  i don't know anything,  
>>> and i don't  have time to read up, and i don't know a word of  
>>> spanish.  stupid,  but that's how it goes.  i promised a friend i  
>>> would take a trip with  him and decided it would be fun to let  
>>> him decide and just accept.   so he called me and said "guess  
>>> what, we're going to cuba."  any  advice or recommendations  
>>> welcome.  we're going through Nassau btw.   i think we are  
>>> willing to do some adventuring, but would like a fair  amount of  
>>> beach relaxing, and given our short amount of time there,  we  
>>> won't be stingy if it will make things easier.
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>>
>>> e
>>>
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From: lia bulaong <lia@bulaong.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 3:02:41 AM EDT
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Subject: Re: Cuba
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Todd Holoubek is legal tender in Cuba?

Sasha Harris-Cronin wrote:
> I'd try Todd Holoubek.

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From: Michelle Kempner <guarana63@gmail.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 7:18:26 AM EDT
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veradero is arguably the most beatiful beach in the world.
unfortunately it is closed off to cubans unless they work for the
resorts.  it was not expensive at all.  i probably spent a little too
much time in havana, which wasn't that exciting.  it is fun to hang
out on the malecon and talk to cubans.

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From: sarah teitler <saraht@panix.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 7:23:44 AM EDT
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Subject: Re: Cuba
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re: money.
I think between the time you spend working out exchange rates between  
us dollars, euros, canadian dollars, etc, you don't end up saving too  
much if you change your money here in the US before going to cuba.  
You can still exchange us dollars there, its just that you can no  
longer use dollars in stores, etc., and you need to pay the penalty.
There are Cadecas (money exchange places) all over havana. If you  
don't want to travel with "huge wad of cash" as I think some one else  
suggested, you can get a transcard:
(http://www.smart-transfer.com/) which works at atms all over havana,  
and I assume, in most of the countryside.

In Havana, you should get outside of Habana Vieja, which is, of  
course, well worth seeing, but is just a tiny piece of the picture.
I recommend walking around the neighborhoods of Vedado (there is a  
nice bookstore at UNEAC), and also Cerro, and also Centro Habana.
It is nice to take the little and very short ferry ride from habana  
vieja to the area of Regla. Ferry also goes to Casa Blanca, another  
nice place to walk around, and go up to the Cristo on the hill there  
for a nice view of the harbor and all of habana.
A good place for a drink (with great view) is from the restaurant on  
top of the Focsa building (can't remember its name).
A good place for a coffee, if you are tired of pounding the pavement  
and want a break, is the patio at the hotel nacional.
For a beach with a good popular feel, Santa Maria, in playas del este.
For less people (ie, restricted access to the locals -- which is a  
common thing in cuba), the playa grande in Tarara is very nice too.
But these are not resort-y at all. I can't offer advice re:  that.

The cuban collection at the Bellas Artes museum is really terrific  
(the museum is in two different buildings, and I am talking about the  
modern one), and I highly recommmend spending time there -- start at  
the top with the 16th century maps...and it goes up to contemporary  
cuban artists.
the Museo Wilfredo Lam is a lovely spot, and often has interesting  
shows up. Ditto re: Centro de Artes Visuales (not exactly its name,  
but something like that, on la plaza vieja, in habana vieja,  across  
from the Fototeca, which sometimes has good things on as well).
Centro Pablo de la Torriente Brau often has music on saturday  
afternoons -- folksy, nueva trova. Its a scene.
In the parque almendares (which is alongside the little river that  
cuts through habana) is an amphitheatre where they sometimes have  
very good music shows, and all sorts of people show up and play.  
entry is in pesos, and is very low. Ask around to see if anything is  
going on there while you are there.
Also, see what is on at the little bar atop the auditorio national --  
they sometimes have good music, and it is a small space, not too  
touristy.

Walk along the Malecon. Sit along the Malecon. late afternoon.

I have a friend who rents out a nice small apt. on the line between  
centro habana and habana vieja if you are looking for a place to stay.

Someone else wrote about being careful re: breaking US law by going  
to Cuba, and you should heed that advice. Bush admin is really  
cracking down on unauthorized travel (and at the same time really  
limiting even further who it authorizes to travel). No one is doing  
jail time for going (though the penalties as written are something  
like: up to 250,000 in fines and up to ten years in jail), but  
typical fines range from 800 to 8000.
Don't bring anything back with you, no matter how much you want to  
give your best friend cigars, etc. This includes your tourist guide  
books, etc.

Lastly, I am sad to write that havana, which used to be very very  
safe, has gotton less so in last couple of years. You need to be  
really careful with your camera, your wallet, etc. This used to be  
only in tourist areas, but now it is everywhere. Dont carry all your  
money in one place, etc., etc. Also, be wary of going off to a party  
or something with people you don't know.
That said, there are mostly great people there, its just they aren't  
the ones hanging out at bars where the tourists go...If you or your  
friend speak spanish, that will  help a lot.

Its a really interesting place. Hope you have a good time.
Sarah









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From: Todd Holoubek <tholoubek@nyc.rr.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 10:24:37 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cuba
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Sadly enough...i am not just legal tender but i am legal and tender

don't spend me all in one place


For one week in Cuba - Havana is almost enough - the bus out to the  
beach is super cheap tho and u can get a cab back

Havana is pretty big so u can walk around and never cross your path

there are some touristy areas but they are easy to avoid

I would say just explore as much as u can

have a great time

Peace

T


On Sep 19, 2005, at 3:02 AM, lia bulaong wrote:

> Todd Holoubek is legal tender in Cuba?
>
> Sasha Harris-Cronin wrote:
>
>> I'd try Todd Holoubek.
>>
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From: "Andrew G. Milmoe" <andrew@milmoe.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 10:37:21 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cuba
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Yeah the Holoubek can be exchanged, you just have to be sure to  
negotiate the rate of exchange up front if it's not posted. If you  
make a purchase with Holoubeks and make sure they give you back the  
right amount of change. Sometimes they try to rush you hoping to  
finish the transaction before you've had time to calculate the exact  
rate of exchange.

The black market rate is often better than what they'll give you at  
hotels or at the airport, but you may incur a legal penalty if you  
are caught trading them illegally. There are also penalties for  
returning to the United States with more than the legal limit if you  
try to bring them back to give to your friends.

I still have Holoubeks leftover from a recent vacation, but I have  
not been able to find a dealer or collector in the US willing to  
exchange them for cash. Maybe I can sell them on Craig's List or EBay?

-Milmoe

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> Todd Holoubek is legal tender in Cuba?
>
> Sasha Harris-Cronin wrote:
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From: Ed Bringas <chewy@lepow.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 12:29:51 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: Cuba
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Dollars are fine, I sent money last month with no problem.
Veradero Is AMAZING!!!!!!

-Chu

On Sep 19, 2005, at 7:18 AM, Michelle Kempner wrote:

> veradero is arguably the most beatiful beach in the world.
> unfortunately it is closed off to cubans unless they work for the
> resorts.  it was not expensive at all.  i probably spent a little too
> much time in havana, which wasn't that exciting.  it is fun to hang
> out on the malecon and talk to cubans.
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From: Eric Forman <itp@ericforman.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 11:59:38 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cuba
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thanks everybody

i'll let you know how it goes, assuming i don't spend the whole time  
huddled under a tarp in nassau as the remains of the airport swirl  
around me.


On Sep 19, 2005, at 12:29 PM, Ed Bringas wrote:

> Dollars are fine, I sent money last month with no problem.
> Veradero Is AMAZING!!!!!!
>
> -Chu
>
> On Sep 19, 2005, at 7:18 AM, Michelle Kempner wrote:
>
>
>> veradero is arguably the most beatiful beach in the world.
>> unfortunately it is closed off to cubans unless they work for the
>> resorts.  it was not expensive at all.  i probably spent a little too
>> much time in havana, which wasn't that exciting.  it is fun to hang
>> out on the malecon and talk to cubans.
>>
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From: morry <murray.baloney@gmail.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 12:09:30 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cuba
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 From my Cuban Friend

My advice is:

be street-wise in a new york way. As an
American in Havana you will be preyed upon by
"jineteras" and "jineteros" (pronounced
hee-net-air-uh). They're like hookers, but they don't
just have sex for money, they'll also hang out with
you and keep you company (i.e., they'll be your
friend/guide) in exchange for you buying them meals,
drinks, clothing, etc. etc. Don't trust them. They
make up stories about their lives in order to
entertain and are more than willing to take you on
tours of havana. These tours consist of visiting all
the restaurant/bar hangouts of their hustler friends
(Montserrat is a popular one) where you will be
propositioned by even more jineteras. Especially be
aware of getting into a cab with one or of getting
into any cab where the driver has a person sitting
next to them in the passenger's side. Tourists do get
assaulted there, especially the American ones, and you
don't want to get in trouble with Cuban authorities.

That's the big WARNING. Be smart about which Cubans
you engage with. They will all be friendly, but some
will want your money. The way they proposition you is
sometimes very subtle.

Havana is gorgeous. The museums there are wonderful--I
recommend them all.

Beaches:
Varadero is tops, really the most beautiful
beach I"ve ever seen. It's a few hours from Havana. If
you can rent a car and drive there yourself it might
be best. There are other ways of getting there, such
as tours, taxis, etc. Just make sure if you ask
someone how to get there that you ask a hotel worker
or someone respectable. There are tourists in Varadero
and there are Jineteras, but you'll hardly get
harrassed, if at all.

Eating:
Try out the various Paladares (pronounced
Paula-dah-ris or, singular: Paula-dar). They are
privately owned places to eat, usually in people's
homes. Some are fancier and more expensive than
others, but if you want to eat more than the fried
chicken and ham/cheese sandwiches that you find
everywhere else, try these.

Enjoy yourself. People will be very friendly, and you
can be friendly back. If someone tries to sell you
something, you can say no and it'll be okay. Lots of
Cubans speak English, esp. in Havana.

Guanabo is a popular



On 9/19/05, Eric Forman <itp@ericforman.com> wrote:
> thanks everybody
>
> i'll let you know how it goes, assuming i don't spend the whole time
> huddled under a tarp in nassau as the remains of the airport swirl
> around me.
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2005, at 12:29 PM, Ed Bringas wrote:
>
>> Dollars are fine, I sent money last month with no problem.
>> Veradero Is AMAZING!!!!!!
>>
>> -Chu
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2005, at 7:18 AM, Michelle Kempner wrote:
>>
>>
>>> veradero is arguably the most beatiful beach in the world.
>>> unfortunately it is closed off to cubans unless they work for the
>>> resorts.  it was not expensive at all.  i probably spent a little  
>>> too
>>> much time in havana, which wasn't that exciting.  it is fun to hang
>>> out on the malecon and talk to cubans.
>>>
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From: morry <murray.baloney@gmail.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 11:47:52 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Chinese Lessons in NYC
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I'm interested in learning conversation Mandarin.  I don't want the  
audio
lingual approach
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communicative_language_teaching) nor do
I want a teacher who goes back and forth between Chinese and English.

I'm registered/taking a class at The New School but after the first
class I realize I really do want a different approach. I'm bascially
trying to find a Chinese course or Chinese teacher who uses a
Communicative Language Teaching (CLT) approach similar to the Aliance
Francaise approach to teaching French or immersive ESL courses (e.g.
RSA ESL approach).

Thanks!

Morry

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From: itp_alum@yangster.com
Date: September 20, 2005 9:56:30 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Chinese Lessons in NYC
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I'm not sure about the teaching styles ...could be like the New  
School for
all I know but here are a couple of other options.

China Institute
http://www.chinainstitute.org/classes/language.html

Wossing Center for Chinese (in Chinatown)
http://www.wossing.com/

also, NYU school of continuing ed offers Mandarin classes.
definitely a useful language to know...

> I'm interested in learning conversation Mandarin.  I don't want the  
> audio
> lingual approach
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communicative_language_teaching) nor do
> I want a teacher who goes back and forth between Chinese and English.
>
> I'm registered/taking a class at The New School but after the first
> class I realize I really do want a different approach. I'm bascially
> trying to find a Chinese course or Chinese teacher who uses a
> Communicative Language Teaching (CLT) approach similar to the Aliance
> Francaise approach to teaching French or immersive ESL courses (e.g.
> RSA ESL approach).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Morry
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From: Lisa Pedicini <lisa.pedicini@verizon.net>
Date: September 20, 2005 10:18:43 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Chinese Lessons in NYC
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Since my eldest child is now in college majoring in Chinese, having  
studied Mandarin all through high school, and his little sister has  
been "studying" Mandarin as well via the China Institute and private  
tutors, I have a little experience with this.

Serious students of Chinese insist that the most important quality in  
a teacher is his or her accent. You may not agree, but there really  
is a nationally acknowledged "standard" accent which all Mandarin  
speakers respect, even those from areas with rather different  
sounding dialects. Typically, you will want someone with an educated  
native Beijing accent; the sort you hear on CCTV. As I write this,  
I'm conscious that it smacks of all sorts of elitist and class  
issues. I can only add that the Chinese maintain the same in reverse  
-- English speakers looking to teach English in China are prized if  
they are educated native speakers without regional accents.

 From your description of the methodology you seek, it sounds as if  
you would like the China Institute's approach. Real immersion is  
hugely successful with Chinese. For what it's worth the China  
Institute has a serious immersion program in the summer here in the  
city and there are numbers of other programs in China.

My son couldn't do without Wenlin or his trusty wipe off marker slate  
-- those things on your dorm room door in college, but these may not  
be useful right away.

Excellent goal. Good luck.

At 11:47 PM -0400 9/19/05, morry wrote:
I'm interested in learning conversation Mandarin. I don't want the  
audio
lingual approach
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communicative_language_teaching) nor do
I want a teacher who goes back and forth between Chinese and English.

I'm registered/taking a class at The New School but after the first
class I realize I really do want a different approach. I'm bascially
trying to find a Chinese course or Chinese teacher who uses a
Communicative Language Teaching (CLT) approach similar to the Aliance
Francaise approach to teaching French or immersive ESL courses (e.g.
RSA ESL approach).

Thanks!

Morry

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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: joshua goldberg <josh@goldbergs.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 10:50:55 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: opera
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

opera is now free as in beer.

http://www.opera.com

j

--
josh@goldbergs.com


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From: Stacey Chevalier Kerr <staceychev@gmail.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 11:43:25 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: quick--somewhat ignorant question about Korean name
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Mom just called. The lawyer at her office is writing a letter to an  
individual named "Young Park" and doesn't know if said individual is  
female or male. Sounds like a Korean name to me. Any ideas, or is it  
a gender neutral name and we're outta luck?

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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Sasha Harris-Cronin  
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Date: September 20, 2005 10:54:37 AM EDT
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Subject: eensy teensy robot
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http://www.rednova.com/news/technology/240565/ 
researchers_build_worlds_smallest_mobile_robot/index.html

Researchers Build World's Smallest Mobile Robot


Dartmouth -- In a world where "supersize" has entered the lexicon,  
there are some things getting smaller, like cell phones and laptops.  
Dartmouth researchers have contributed to the miniaturizing trend by  
creating the world's smallest untethered, controllable robot.

Their extremely tiny machine is about as wide as a strand of human  
hair, and half the length of the period at the end of this sentence.  
About 200 of these could march in a line across the top of a plain M&M.

The researchers, led by Bruce Donald, the Joan P. and Edward J. Foley  
Jr. 1933 Professor of Computer Science at Dartmouth, report their  
creation in a paper that will be presented at the 12th International  
Symposium of Robotics Research in October in San Francisco, which is  
sponsored by the International Federation of Robotics Research.

A longer, more detailed paper about this microrobot will also appear  
in a forthcoming issue of the Journal of Microelectromechanical  
Systems, a publication of the IEEE, the Institute of Electrical and  
Electronics Engineers.

"It's tens of times smaller in length, and thousands of times smaller  
in mass than previous untethered microrobots that are controllable,"  
says Donald. "When we say 'controllable,' it means it's like a car;  
you can steer it anywhere on a flat surface, and drive it wherever  
you want to go. It doesn't drive on wheels, but crawls like a silicon  
inchworm, making tens of thousands of 10-nanometer steps every  
second. It turns by putting a silicon 'foot' out and pivoting like a  
motorcyclist skidding around a tight turn."

The future applications for micro-electromechanical systems, or MEMS,  
include ensuring information security, such as assisting with network  
authentication and authorization; inspecting and making repairs to an  
integrated circuit; exploring hazardous environments, perhaps after a  
hazardous chemical explosion; or involving biotechnology, say to  
manipulate cells or tissues.

Donald worked with Christopher Levey, Assistant Professor of  
Engineering and the Director of the Microengineering Laboratory at  
Dartmouth's Thayer School of Engineering, Dartmouth Ph.D. students  
Craig McGray and Igor Paprotny, and Daniela Rus, Associate Professor  
of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at the Massachusetts  
Institute of Technology.

Their paper describes a machine that measures 60 micrometers by 250  
micrometers (one micrometer is one thousandth of a millimeter). It  
integrates power delivery, locomotion, communication, and a  
controllable steering system - the combination of which has never  
been achieved before in a machine this small. Donald explains that  
this discovery ushers in a new generation of even tinier microrobots.
The microrobot on a penny. (Courtesy Donald Laboratory)
Close up photo of the microrobot. The spots are human red blood  
cells. (Courtesy Donald Laboratory)

McGray, who earned a Ph.D. in Computer Science working on this  
project in Donald's lab, adds, "Machines this small tend to stick to  
everything they touch, the way the sand sticks to your feet after a  
day at the beach.

So we built these microrobots without any wheels or hinged joints,  
which must slide smoothly on their bearings. Instead, these robots  
move by bending their bodies like caterpillars. At very small scales,  
this machine is surprisingly fast." McGray is currently a researcher  
at the National Institute of Standards and Technology in  
Gaithersburg, Md.

The prototype is steerable and untethered, meaning that it can move  
freely on a surface without the wires or rails that constrained the  
motion of previously developed microrobots. Donald explains that this  
is the smallest robot that transduces force, is untethered, and is  
engaged in its own locomotion.

The robot contains two independent microactuators, one for forward  
motion and one for turning. It's not pre-programmed to move; it is  
teleoperated, powered by the grid of electrodes it walks on. The  
charge in the electrodes not only provides power, it also supplies  
the robot's instructions that allow it to move freely over the  
electrodes, unattached to them.

The work was funded in part by the Department of Homeland Security,  
Office of Domestic Preparedness through Dartmouth's Institute for  
Security Technology Studies (ISTS).


                     .. sasha harris-cronin ..
.. sasha@mortalspaces.com .. 415.516.2049..


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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 12:27:23 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: eensy teensy robot
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pretty cool.  even cooler, it was funded by the dept of homeland  
security and an Office of Domestic Preparedness.

i dunno bout the former, but maybe the latter refers to cleaning up  
spills and pet accidents?  now THAT's technology.

On Sep 20, 2005, at 10:54 AM, Sasha Harris-Cronin wrote:

> http://www.rednova.com/news/technology/240565/ 
> researchers_build_worlds_smallest_mobile_robot/index.html
>
> Researchers Build World's Smallest Mobile Robot
>
>
> Dartmouth -- In a world where "supersize" has entered the lexicon,  
> there are some things getting smaller, like cell phones and  
> laptops. Dartmouth researchers have contributed to the  
> miniaturizing trend by creating the world's smallest untethered,  
> controllable robot.
>
> Their extremely tiny machine is about as wide as a strand of human  
> hair, and half the length of the period at the end of this  
> sentence. About 200 of these could march in a line across the top  
> of a plain M&M.
>
> The researchers, led by Bruce Donald, the Joan P. and Edward J.  
> Foley Jr. 1933 Professor of Computer Science at Dartmouth, report  
> their creation in a paper that will be presented at the 12th  
> International Symposium of Robotics Research in October in San  
> Francisco, which is sponsored by the International Federation of  
> Robotics Research.
>
> A longer, more detailed paper about this microrobot will also  
> appear in a forthcoming issue of the Journal of  
> Microelectromechanical Systems, a publication of the IEEE, the  
> Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers.
>
> "It's tens of times smaller in length, and thousands of times  
> smaller in mass than previous untethered microrobots that are  
> controllable," says Donald. "When we say 'controllable,' it means  
> it's like a car; you can steer it anywhere on a flat surface, and  
> drive it wherever you want to go. It doesn't drive on wheels, but  
> crawls like a silicon inchworm, making tens of thousands of 10- 
> nanometer steps every second. It turns by putting a silicon 'foot'  
> out and pivoting like a motorcyclist skidding around a tight turn."
>
> The future applications for micro-electromechanical systems, or  
> MEMS, include ensuring information security, such as assisting with  
> network authentication and authorization; inspecting and making  
> repairs to an integrated circuit; exploring hazardous environments,  
> perhaps after a hazardous chemical explosion; or involving  
> biotechnology, say to manipulate cells or tissues.
>
> Donald worked with Christopher Levey, Assistant Professor of  
> Engineering and the Director of the Microengineering Laboratory at  
> Dartmouth's Thayer School of Engineering, Dartmouth Ph.D. students  
> Craig McGray and Igor Paprotny, and Daniela Rus, Associate  
> Professor of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at the  
> Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
>
> Their paper describes a machine that measures 60 micrometers by 250  
> micrometers (one micrometer is one thousandth of a millimeter). It  
> integrates power delivery, locomotion, communication, and a  
> controllable steering system - the combination of which has never  
> been achieved before in a machine this small. Donald explains that  
> this discovery ushers in a new generation of even tinier microrobots.
> The microrobot on a penny. (Courtesy Donald Laboratory)
> Close up photo of the microrobot. The spots are human red blood  
> cells. (Courtesy Donald Laboratory)
>
> McGray, who earned a Ph.D. in Computer Science working on this  
> project in Donald's lab, adds, "Machines this small tend to stick  
> to everything they touch, the way the sand sticks to your feet  
> after a day at the beach.
>
> So we built these microrobots without any wheels or hinged joints,  
> which must slide smoothly on their bearings. Instead, these robots  
> move by bending their bodies like caterpillars. At very small  
> scales, this machine is surprisingly fast." McGray is currently a  
> researcher at the National Institute of Standards and Technology in  
> Gaithersburg, Md.
>
> The prototype is steerable and untethered, meaning that it can move  
> freely on a surface without the wires or rails that constrained the  
> motion of previously developed microrobots. Donald explains that  
> this is the smallest robot that transduces force, is untethered,  
> and is engaged in its own locomotion.
>
> The robot contains two independent microactuators, one for forward  
> motion and one for turning. It's not pre-programmed to move; it is  
> teleoperated, powered by the grid of electrodes it walks on. The  
> charge in the electrodes not only provides power, it also supplies  
> the robot's instructions that allow it to move freely over the  
> electrodes, unattached to them.
>
> The work was funded in part by the Department of Homeland Security,  
> Office of Domestic Preparedness through Dartmouth's Institute for  
> Security Technology Studies (ISTS).
>
>
>                     .. sasha harris-cronin ..
> .. sasha@mortalspaces.com .. 415.516.2049..
>
>
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From: "evan.raskob" <lists@lowfrequency.org>
Date: September 20, 2005 12:38:43 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: eensy teensy robot
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On Sep 20, 2005, at 12:27 PM, eric socolofsky wrote:

> i dunno bout the former, but maybe the latter refers to cleaning up  
> spills and pet accidents?  now THAT's technology.
>

great, it's bad enough that poop is crawling with nano-insects (and  
some not-so-nano cockroaches), but now we'll have to watch out for  
tiny poop-infesting nanomachines courtesy of the dep. of homeland  
security.  yayy! my tax dollars at work.


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From: Shawn Van Every <itp-alumni@walking-productions.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 1:17:15 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Fwd: [Grassrootsmedia] Save The Date! NYCGMC "make this  
netWORK" Event October 6
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Jen Nedbalsky <jen@papertiger.org>
> Date: September 20, 2005 1:04:18 PM EDT
> To: grassrootsmedia@lists.mayfirst.org
> Subject: [Grassrootsmedia] Save The Date! NYCGMC "make this  
> netWORK" Event October 6
>
>
> SAVE THE DATE!
>
> October 6th, 7-9:30pm
>
> "make this netWORK"
> A gathering of media makers and social justice organizers
>
> This is the third in a series of informal networking events  
> organized to create a space for grassroots media makers and social  
> justice organizers/activists to come together, get to know one  
> another and make the connections necessary to strengthen local  
> campaigns and independent media networks.
>
> make this netWORK is not another meeting, it is a fun, informal event!
>
> Location TBA
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From: Gilad Rosner <roz@speakeasy.net>
Date: September 20, 2005 1:42:04 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: FW: [Culturebots] special tix for Pastoralia this weekend
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This is a great short story, should be an interesting and fun play.

-g.


From: editor@culturebot.org
Date: September 20, 2005 1:20:34 PM EDT
To: events@geminiandscorpio.com
Subject: [Culturebots] special tix for Pastoralia this weekend

Hey Culturebots-

I've got a Special Culturebot Ticket Offer for Opening Weekend of  
PASTORALIA!

Yehuda Duenyas has adapted George Saunders's novella "Pastoralia" for  
the stage.

"Pastoralia" is a darkly comic story of Ed and Janet, live-in  
employees at a historically-themed amusement park where they simulate  
the day-to-day life of early humans in a display cave dwelling: they  
roast goats, draw pictographs, and grunt at one other. The park has  
fallen on hard times; as a result, layoffs threaten Ed and Janet's  
jobs. In this hilarious, heartbreaking tale, Ed and Janet are put to  
the test and ultimately must choose between their families'  
livelihoods and their own dignity.

We are making a limited number of FREE tickets to opening night  
available for Culturebots. Opening night is Wednesday, September  
21st. Showtime is 8:30 p.m. Can't make it on Wednesday? Culturebots  
can get $10 tickets to "Pastoralia" all weekend long! Use the same  
code and get $10 for Thursday, Friday, Saturday or Sundays  
performances. Oh yeah, the code word is "cavebot".

For more info:
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To get tickets email Olivia at Olivia@ps122.org

Also, of course, a reminder - part of the Culturebot mission is to  
increase the discussion of the arts on the interweb. If you have a  
blog PLEASE PLEASE write about the shows you see!!! If you don't have  
a blog, get one. Everybody's doing it.

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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: midori.yasuda@nyu.edu
Date: September 20, 2005 2:33:53 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: JOB: Creative Director for Groundzero Design
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


Full Name of Contact Person:jane ryan beck
Title:creative director
Is Contact Person a Tisch Alumna/Alumnus?Yes
Company Name:groundzero design
Address 1:305 west broadway ste 275
City:new york
State:New York
Zip Code:10013
Fax:2121234567
Email:<A href="mailto:jane@groundzero.com">jane@groundzero.com</A>
Application Instructions:  Please send an email introducing
yourself and a copy of your resume.
Company Web Site:   <A href="http://www.groundzero.com">http:// 
www.groundzero.com</A>

Company Description: groundzero design was founded by two NYU
alumni twelve years ago. Our studio designs identities, collateral
materials, publications and web sites for a diverse group of
clients including nonprofits, private foundations and small
corporations.
Job Title:production assistant
Wage Type:Full-time
Job Description:  We are looking for a hands-on production
assistant to learn every facet of running a small design studio in
our light-filled loft in SoHo. You'll help with project management
(setting priorities, acting as liaison with clients) and production
(updating schedules, producing graphics, creating Web pages with a
content management solution). You'll also assist with conceptual
work - brainstorming creative solutions for clients print and
interactive communications needs.
Job Qualifications:Strong organizational, communications (verbal
and written) and research skills. Working knowledge of MS and MAC
Office (Excel, Word), Photoshop, HTML, Quark/InDesign.
Does this position entail working in a home-office environment?Yes
Start Date:10-01-05
End Date:
Salary Information:commensurate with experience
Benefits Information:full medical and dental
Please check:This is a paid position, not an internship for credit
or deferred salary position.
Have you previously employed any Tisch students or alumni?Yes
Please Check:Yes

(this message will be archived at http://social.itp.tsoa.nyu.edu/floor4/

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From: Midori Yasuda <midori.yasuda@nyu.edu>
Date: September 20, 2005 3:24:19 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Fwd: Tisch Newsletter
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submit or update your Class Notes on the Tisch website! the news will  
be published in the next Tisch Alumni newsletter!


> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 13:46:28 -0400
> From: Steffani Maxwell <sm137@nyu.edu>
> Subject: Tisch Newsletter
> To: (Recipient list suppressed)
>
> Dear Department Heads and Staff,
>
> As you know, twice a year the Office of External Affairs at Tisch  
> publishes and distributes a newsletter to Tisch alumni around the  
> world. The newsletter is an excellent resource for alumni to  
> reconnect with old friends, showcasing their achievements, or to  
> let the Tisch community know what they've been up to. Class notes  
> can be submitted on our website at http://alumni.tisch.nyu.edu/page/ 
> classNotes.html, or by contacting me at  sm137@nyu.edu. If you need  
> to send me something via interoffice mail, here is my mailing address:
>
> Steffani Maxwell
> Development Office
> Tisch School of the Arts
> 721 Broadway, 12th Floor
> New York, NY 10003
> Interoffice mail code: 1669
>
> The deadline for submissions is Wednesday, Oct.20th.
>
> If you have a listserv or similar mailing list for your alumni, can  
> you please forward this information on to them?
>
> Thank you in advance. Please call me at ext.86986 should you have  
> any questions or concerns.
>
> Sincerely,
> Steffani


-- 
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From: Midori Yasuda <midori.yasuda@nyu.edu>
Date: September 20, 2005 3:30:48 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Fwd: Definition/ Tirtza Even and Brian Karl
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


a few ITP people involved!


We wanted to invite you to Definition, a three-part installation  
involving two video projections alongside an interactive audio- 
graphic physical computing piece.

Commissioned by the Jewish Museum, NY, for an exhibition entitled  
"The Jewish Identity Project" opening September 20th, 2005,  
Definition is a representation of the multiplicity of definitions of  
the term "Jewish" as viewed by individuals both Jewish and non- 
Jewish. The metaphor of a sign-language "dictionary" serves as a  
formal access point, in which a vocabulary of invented and  
choreographed physical gestures is enacted in diverse indoors and  
outdoor urban locales by a group of actors/dancers.

Produced and directed by Tirtza Even and Brian Karl
Choreography: Melinda Ring
Programming: Luke DuBois, Scott Fitzgerald, Todd Holoubek.


The Jewish Museum
1109 Fifth Avenue, at 92nd. St.
New York, NY 10128
212 423 3267


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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Jamie Allen <ja771@nyu.edu>
Date: September 20, 2005 3:52:12 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: New Gallery features "Wood Metal Water" hosted by Lower  
Manhattan Cultural Council
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Hello y'all...

I've been lucky enough to curate a little show at the Lower Manhattan  
Cultural Council's new gallery "redhead" in Maiden Lane.  Opens Sept.  
29th, come or perish!!

Jamie


Press Release

WOOD METAL WATER
redhead gallery
125 Maiden Lane
Sept. 29th - Nov. 5th
Opening Sept. 29
www.lmcc.net/woodmetalwater

Lower Manhattan Cultural Councils presents Wood Metal Water,  
the inaugural show of their new exhibition space,  
redhead. Curated by Jamie Allen, guest curator, the exhibition  
features an international group of artists working with new media and  
physical sculpture in novel ways.

The meandering of vibrating anthropomorphisms, electronically  
assisted shrubbery, interactive heavy-metal furniture, ceiling bound  
kinetic figures, a cavitating columnar water fountain, sub-sonic  
sound sculpture, a water video-fall and oversized graphite plumbs are  
some of the elements you can expect to see at Wood Metal Water.

The raw material constituents of practically all fabrication - the  
tension and music within everything we live in, eat off or sit on -  
serve as inspiration for works that point to the pregnant potential  
offered in cycles of destruction and reconstruction. High-amplitude,  
low-frequency selected artworks from a crew of unapologetically  
multifaceted and corporeal artists.

Artists Ian Curry, Paul Davies, Jeff Degolier, Hendrik Gerrits, Tom  
Kotik, Eunjoo Shin and Meghan Trainor intercede in both the lobby and  
gallery in the Financial District space at 125 Maiden Lane. Opening  
night on September 29th features aural performance work by Daniel  
Perlin, starting at 7pm.


gallery hours: Sept 29  Nov 5 M-F 10 am - 7 pm

Lower Manhattan Cultural Council (LMCC) is the leading voice for arts  
and culture in downtown New York City, producing cultural events and  
promoting the arts through grants, services, advocacy, and cultural  
development programs.

media contact: Jessica (jsagert@lmcc.net / 212.219.9401 x114)

From: itp_alum@yangster.com
Date: September 20, 2005 3:55:35 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Fwd: Hurricane Katrina benefit
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Begin forwarded message:

FIRSTHIRD WORLD
A BENEFIT FOR THE SURVIVORS OF HURRICANE KATRINA
Sunday, September 25. 6-10PM

@ Galapagos  Art Space
70 North 6th Street
between Kent and Wythe
Williamsburg, Brooklyn, NY 11211
718 782-5188

minimum $5 donation + 1 drink

HOSTED BY REGIE CABICO
INSTALLATION BY SIDDHARTHA JOAG


WORDS + IMAGES by

FAY CHIANG
JAMAL CHASTEN
JASON DASILVA
EWARD GARCIA
MARK PAPALLERO
ANGEL VELASCO SHAW
BEAU SIA
OMAR TELAN
KELLY TSAI
And many more


Description:

Regie Cabico and Siddhartha Joag, present an evening of New York City's
progressive and political artists sharing their work to support the  
Asian
American populations displaced by Hurricane Katrina. Performers include
poets Edward Garcia, Gamal Chasten (of UniVerses), Fay Chiang, Beau Sia,
Omar Telan, Kelly Tsai and many more. Also featured will be visual  
work of
Jason DaSilva, Fay Chiang, Angel Shaw, and Mark Papaellero and a site
specific installation and performance by Siddhartha Joag and Regie  
Cabico.

The goal of this event is to express our solidarity with the people  
of the
Gulf Coast in this time of crisis by collaborating and creating analytic
work that contextualizes the Bush administrations response to Katrina
within the larger framework of corporate globalization, neo-imperialism,
empire, war & the immutable facism that is growing from the cracks of  
U.S.
democracy and capitalism. The lesson of Katrina is there exists a third
world people within the United States who despite their citizenship  
are no
less expendable to the ruling class than the over 500,000 Iraqi children
murdered by the U.S. in the past decade.  In times of crisis it is  
easy to
fall in the trap of immediate hysteria and nationalist thinking, we hope
this show reminds people that we need to always think globally,
collectively and creatively in order to affect real sustainable social
change.

Firsthird World is the second event in an ongoing series of
multidisciplinary collaborations between artists of color creating work
around contemporary social and political issues.

Directions to Galapagos:

 From Manhattan by Subway- Take the L to Bedford Ave. (1st stop in
Brooklyn), exit on N. 7th and walk down one block to N. 6th, take a  
right
and walk 2 1/2 blocks over. We're between Wythe and Kent on the left  
side.
Or Take the JMZ to Marcy Ave. Walk two blocks west on Broadway to  
Bedford
Ave. Catch the B61 bus and take it to N7 (approximately 5 minute ride).



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From: Midori Yasuda <midori.yasuda@nyu.edu>
Date: September 20, 2005 4:45:33 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Smart Glass Talk this friday at ITP
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Special Event
Greg Sottile from Smart Glass
Friday, September 23
6pm refreshments, 6:30pm talk
Japanese room (404)

Gregory M. Sottile of Research Frontiers Inc. (Woodbury, NY;  
www.smartglass.com ) will be here to provide information on  
switchable glazings and SPD SmartGlass technology. Switchables  
glazings are growing category of materials that use an electrical  
interface to regulate the passage of light through glass or plastic  
substrates. SPD technology is a switchable material with highly  
unique properties: availability in large or small formats, wide  
ranges of light transmission, no haze in its "clear" state, fast  
switching speed, and others. Greg's presentation includes a  
referenced overview of switchable technologies, a demonstration of  
SPD film, and a series of SPD product installation pictures. An  
interactive presentation is encouraged.

---------

Gregory M. Sottile is the Director of Market Development for Research  
Frontiers Incorporated. In this capacity, he is involved with a  
variety of activities designed to bring the benefits of switchable  
glazings and SPD technology to a growing number of users. Greg's  
prior professional activities include marketing research in the  
broadcast industry, ownership of a marketing research and consulting  
firm, and full-time teaching at a major university. He has a  
bachelor's degree in marketing and a master of business  
administration degree with concentrations in marketing and finance,  
and is completing a Ph.D. with a focus on management and organization.

-- 
Midori L. Yasuda
Admissions, Special Events, Alumni Coordinator
Interactive Telecommunications Program
Tisch School of the Arts
New York University
721 Broadway, 4th Floor
New York, NY 10003
phone: 212/998-1882
fax: 212/998-1898
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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Heather Delaney  
<heatherd10@yahoo.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 5:00:36 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Where to buy fresh banana leaves.
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Does anyone know where to get these in the city?

Thanks,
Heather


		
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From: Happy Mia Gomes <happy.gomes@gmail.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 5:08:42 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Where to buy fresh banana leaves.
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

there is a philipino/indonesian grocery store in chinatown (on  
mulberry street between canal street and the next street on the south  
side). the store usually carries banana leaves.

happy


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Does anyone know where to get these in the city?

Thanks,
Heather



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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Sonali Sridhar <ss3546@nyu.edu>
Date: September 20, 2005 5:38:33 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Where to buy fresh banana leaves.
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I have also seen them being sold at the farmers market at union square

On Sep 20, 2005, at 5:08 PM, Happy Mia Gomes wrote:
there is a philipino/indonesian grocery store in chinatown (on  
mulberry street between canal street and the next street on the south  
side). the store usually carries banana leaves.

happy


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Does anyone know where to get these in the city?

Thanks,
Heather



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From: Midori Yasuda <midori.yasuda@nyu.edu>
Date: September 20, 2005 5:59:05 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: F This Week at Eyebeam:
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>



This Week at Eyebeam

This Week at Eyebeam:
- Sept. 20-24 - The Upgrade! International
- Internships at Eyebeam


The Upgrade! International
Eyebeam is pleased to host the first gathering of the Upgrade!  
International through Sept. 24. The Upgrade! is a monthly gathering  
of media artists, curators, theorists and educators that fosters  
dialogue and creates opportunities for collaboration within the media  
arts community. The Upgrade! was founded by media artist Yael Kanarek  
in New York in 1999 and has spread into a global network of  
associated gatherings. This event/exhibition is an opportunity to  
lfrom organizers and see work presented in each location, while  
gaining a sense of the range of manifestations of the Upgrade! model.  
Participating groups are from: New York, Vancouver, Montreal, Boston,  
Seoul, Tel Aviv, Munich, Oklahoma City, Istanbul and Chicago

Show
September 16-24
Tues-Sat, 12-6pm
Documentation of works by 131 artists who participate at Upgrades!  
aroundthe world.Representing:Boston,Chicago, Montreal, Munich,  
New York, OklahomaCity, Scotland, Seoul, Tel Aviv, Vancouver.

Gather
Friday, September 23
7:30-9:00pm
Sala-MancaGroup <http://www.treasurecrumbs.com/theupgrade/ 
05_09salamanca.html> performs Elephants on Metula's Nightsand  
discusses their practice at our monthlygathering. The Sala- 
MancaGroup is comprised of Lea Mauas and Diego Rotman,Argentine- 
Israeliartists who have been creatingwork in performance,video,  
installation and new media since 2000. Sala-manca's works dealwith  
thepoeticsof translation, Yiddish culture, the tensions  
betweenlow-tech and high-tech aesthetics, as wellas social  
andpoliticalissues.

Share
Saturday, September 24
12:00-7:00 pm
How does each Upgrade form its presence and community? What is the  
potential of the network?Join artists, curatorsand organizers for  
two panels, lecture and party.
12:00 pm: Introduction and welcome.
12:10 pm: The New York Upgrade! story with media artist Yael Kanarek  
and director of education at Eyebeam Liz Slagus.
12:45 pm:Artist-Run Upgrades! with Tiffany Holmes, Chicago;Tamiko  
Thiel, Munich; Adam Brown,Oklahoma City; Mushon Zer-Aviv andSala- 
Manca Group, Tel Aviv; Kate Armstrong, Vancouver.Moderated by Yael  
Kanarek.
2:45-3:15 pm: Break
3:15 pm:Art + Tech Organizations Upgrades! with Jo-Anne Greenand  
Catherine D'Ignazio, Boston; Cezanne Charles, Robb Mitchell and  
Michelle Kasprzak, Scotland;Suhjung Hur, Seoul; tobias c. van  
Veen, Montreal. Moderated by Liz Slagus.
5:15 pm:"NETWORKS,AGENCY, PROPERTYand POLICY:  
Practicalthoughts on the emergenceofnew globalcultural  
formations" closing talk by leading scholar of media arts Michael  
Century.
6:00 pm: After-party with music by artist/DJ tobias c. van Veen.

This event is open to the public free of charge. For more information  
please visit http://www.eyebeam.org/engage/engage.php? 
page=exhibitions&id=78

For more information on the Upgrade! please visit http:// 
www.theupgrade.net


Internships at Eyebeam

Eybeam is currently accepting interns for Fall 2005. Multiple  
internships in the Production Studio, Education Studio,  
Communications Department and Systems Department are available.  
Positions are unpaid but use of some Eyebeam facilities and equipment  
is available to interns during off-hours and academic course credit  
can be arranged.

For more information please visit http://www.eyebeam.org/learning/ 
learning.php?page=interns





Eyebeam's programs are made possible through the generous support of  
Atlantic Foundation, the Andy Warhol Foundation for the Visual Arts,  
the National Endowment for the Arts, Time Warner Youth Media and Arts  
Fund, Alienware, the Jerome Foundation, the Helena Rubinstein  
Foundation, the Greenwall Foundation, the New York State Council on  
the Arts, a state agency, the New York City Department of Cultural  
Affairs, the David S. Howe Foundation, the Lerer Family Charitable  
Foundation, the Sony Corporation, Alias Systems, Inc. and the Milton  
and Sally Avery Foundation.



If you would like to subscribe or unsubscribe from the Eyebeam email  
list please visit http://www.eyebeam.org/about/about.php?page=contact


EYEBEAM
Tues-Sat, 12-6pm
540 W. 21st Street, New York, NY 10011
www.eyebeam.org




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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Alicia L Cervini <itp@frimfram.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 6:32:26 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: JOB: Caricaturist wanted
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hi there,

Fox Reality is looking for a caricaturist that can create caricatures  
of each of the contestants on the top 6 reality shows this Fall  
(Survivor, Apprentice, ANTM, Amazing Race, etc).  We're building a  
Fantasy Reality game (ala fantasy football) for our website, but  
don't have the right to use actual photographs of the contestants,  
hence our need for illustrations.

We are located in LA, though it's probably fine if you're not.  This  
is a paid gig.    If you think you fit this bill, we'll need to see  
examples of your work (the caricature, as well as a pic of the person  
you're depicting).  Please send examples to me at alicia.cervini@fox.com

Please also feel free to forward this to your many caricaturist friends.

Thanks all!

Alicia


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From: Alicia L Cervini <itp@frimfram.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 6:41:09 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: OOPS: Caricaturist con't
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hi again,

I should add that this is an immediate opening that we're looking to
fill ASAP.

thanks!

Alicia


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From: Chris Ault <chris.ault@nyu.edu>
Date: September 20, 2005 6:40:03 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: What does this say?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I picked this up this flag at an antique store because I liked the  
looks of it, but before I hang it over my bed I want to make sure it  
doesn't say anything like, "Insomnia - Catch the Wave!"

http://home.comcast.net/~chris.ault/fish.jpg

Any translation and/or explanation would be appreciated. (That's  
assuming I've even got the correct side facing forward.)

Thanks,
Chris

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From: Donny Tsang <donny@nyu.edu>
Date: September 20, 2005 10:13:28 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: What does this say?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

from what my friend said....
from left to right it says:
Water In
Celebrate
Remember of
Always Full
and the bottom 3 characters in red, sounds like a guy's name.
this is a good luck charm
and yes its on the correct side

d
On Sep 20, 2005, at 3:40 PM, Chris Ault wrote:

> I picked this up this flag at an antique store because I liked the  
> looks of it, but before I hang it over my bed I want to make sure  
> it doesn't say anything like, "Insomnia - Catch the Wave!"
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~chris.ault/fish.jpg
>
> Any translation and/or explanation would be appreciated. (That's  
> assuming I've even got the correct side facing forward.)
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
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From: Jennifer Gendler <jgendler@nyc.rr.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 7:47:57 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Help - Tekserve vs. Digital Society for Drive Repair
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

The hardrive in my Powermac G4 desktop is dead or very ill.  I've  
always used Tekserve but Digital Society would be so much more  
convenient.  I vaguely recall that people on the list had problems  
with them.   I have Apple Care so cost should not be an issue.  Does  
anyone have opinions?

Also, I don't know at this point whether all of my data is lost.  
Most, not all, of my stuff was backed up.  The Apple tech support guy  
mentioned Drivesavers.  Anyone use them?

Jennifer

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From: Lisa Pedicini <lisa.pedicini@verizon.net>
Date: September 20, 2005 7:53:08 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Help - Tekserve vs. Digital Society for Drive Repair
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Tekserve charges by the size of the drive for restoring data. It's  
incredibly expensive. They got my stuff back a few years back and I  
needed it desperately, so I was glad they could, but the cost was  
shocking.

No experience with Digital Society or Drivesavers.

> The hardrive in my Powermac G4 desktop is dead or very ill.  I've  
> always used Tekserve but Digital Society would be so much more  
> convenient.  I vaguely recall that people on the list had problems  
> with them.   I have Apple Care so cost should not be an issue.   
> Does anyone have opinions?
>
> Also, I don't know at this point whether all of my data is lost.  
> Most, not all, of my stuff was backed up.  The Apple tech support  
> guy mentioned Drivesavers.  Anyone use them?
>
> Jennifer
>
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From: Jennifer Gendler <jgendler@nyc.rr.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 7:56:08 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Help - Tekserve vs. Digital Society for Drive Repair
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Oops.  Should have said cost of repair or replacement of drive is  
covered.  Data recovery is not.

Jennifer

> Tekserve charges by the size of the drive for restoring data. It's  
> incredibly expensive. They got my stuff back a few years back and I  
> needed it desperately, so I was glad they could, but the cost was  
> shocking.
>
> No experience with Digital Society or Drivesavers.
>
>> The hardrive in my Powermac G4 desktop is dead or very ill.  I've  
>> always used Tekserve but Digital Society would be so much more  
>> convenient.  I vaguely recall that people on the list had problems  
>> with them.   I have Apple Care so cost should not be an issue.  
>> Does anyone have opinions?
>>
>> Also, I don't know at this point whether all of my data is lost.  
>> Most, not all, of my stuff was backed up.  The Apple tech support  
>> guy mentioned Drivesavers.  Anyone use them?
>>
>> Jennifer
>>
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From: charlyn zlotnik <charlyn@czfiles.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 11:21:16 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Help - Tekserve vs. Digital Society for Drive Repair
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

At 7:47 PM -0400 9/20/05, Jennifer Gendler wrote:
> The hardrive in my Powermac G4 desktop is dead or very ill.  I've  
> always used Tekserve but Digital Society would be so much more  
> convenient.  I vaguely recall that people on the list had problems  
> with them.   I have Apple Care so cost should not be an issue.   
> Does anyone have opinions?

Digital society replaced my logic board and battery latch
about a month ago.  They let me know when they had the parts from apple
and I dropped the pb off in the morning and picked it up the next day.

Having problems w/sleep mode, but I think that is a yet to be fixed  
problem.

charlyn

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From: zohar <zohar@zzee.net>
Date: September 20, 2005 5:21:43 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Giant pink bunny
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1541732.html

knitted by dozens of grannies out of pink wool !

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From: Veronique <veronique@v-ro.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 11:29:06 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Giant pink bunny
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

This is great.
I wish I could, as they suggest, climb its 20 foot sides and relax on  
its belly.

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> http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1541732.html
> knitted by dozens of grannies out of pink wool !


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From: davila@media-matters.net
Date: September 20, 2005 11:45:30 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: Giant pink bunny
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Doing so would only anger the Giant Pink Bunny God! Do not test its
patience! Do not awaken its wrathful vengeance!

Dvila


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Veronique [mailto:veronique@v-ro.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 11:29 PM
> To: ITP Alumni
> Subject: Re: Giant pink bunny
>
> This is great.
> I wish I could, as they suggest, climb its 20 foot sides and relax  
> on its
> belly.
>
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> To: "ITP Alumni" <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:21 PM
> Subject: Giant pink bunny
>
>
>> http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1541732.html
>> knitted by dozens of grannies out of pink wool !
>
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From: joshua goldberg <josh@goldbergs.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 12:47:14 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: FEMA diverts ice bound for the Gulf Coast to ... Maine.
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

http://ksdk.com/news/us_world_article.aspx?storyid=85020

jesus, you can't make this stuff up.

--
josh@goldbergs.com


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From: gopika kaul <kaulg@yahoo.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 3:40:51 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Question for all video encoder gurus...
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hi List,

I have an encoding question.

The site I work for is launching a complete broadband
version, and we want to start with streaming up to 200
video clips a day, of varying lengths. The problem is
that, for the moment, due to cost and bandwidth
constraints, we can't encode at too high a bit rate. I
am encoding at 130Kbits or so (max), the window size
is 320 X 240, format is wmv. This serves well for
close up and interviews but not for music videos or
movie trailers.

My questions is: I have seen many sites that stream
great videos and they play well on my connection
(about 300 K). Is there a magic way to make the videos
look great in about 130 K bit rate? I have ordered
cleaner, am encoding in windows media encoder for now.

If there is any other software or setting that I
should be trying, I'd love to know.

Thanks!

Gopika.

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From: fleeta j <fleeta-itp@sens.eu.com>
Date: September 16, 2005 4:38:29 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Question for all video encoder gurus...
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

This is analogous to shoving a square peg in a round hole.
You get what you encode. There is a tripartite relationship between  
image size - quality - bitrate.
No 2 or 3 ways about it... whether you use Cleaner, Squeeze, WM,  
Real, or Qt. Once you get a formula your happy with, remember it!

peace,fleeta


On Sep 16, 2005, at 8:40 AM, gopika kaul wrote:

> Hi List,
>
> I have an encoding question.
>
> The site I work for is launching a complete broadband
> version, and we want to start with streaming up to 200
> video clips a day, of varying lengths. The problem is
> that, for the moment, due to cost and bandwidth
> constraints, we can't encode at too high a bit rate. I
> am encoding at 130Kbits or so (max), the window size
> is 320 X 240, format is wmv. This serves well for
> close up and interviews but not for music videos or
> movie trailers.
>
> My questions is: I have seen many sites that stream
> great videos and they play well on my connection
> (about 300 K). Is there a magic way to make the videos
> look great in about 130 K bit rate? I have ordered
> cleaner, am encoding in windows media encoder for now.
>
> If there is any other software or setting that I
> should be trying, I'd love to know.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Gopika.
>
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From: Doron <doron@nyu.edu>
Date: September 16, 2005 9:12:19 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Question for all video encoder gurus...
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I could give you a couple of ideas:
First, encode in higher settings than 130 K (it's just not enough bit  
rate
to give you a high quality video for broadband).
Next, try to encode the highest quality source materiel you can get your
hands on.
Digi-Beta source will give you a much better quality for your encoded
files than lets say mini-DV source.
Use cleaner, it is the better option out there.
Experiment with different encoders. WM10 should be better than WM9, and
for sure it is better than WM8.


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From: gopika kaul <kaulg@yahoo.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 2:47:55 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Question for all video encoder gurus...
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Thanks..will try it and see.

I know that 130 K is not good enough but here, in
India, you can't go higher than that if you want many
people to be able to watch it.

Thanks for your input.

Gopika.



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> I could give you a couple of ideas:
> First, encode in higher settings than 130 K (it's
> just not enough bit rate
> to give you a high quality video for broadband).
> Next, try to encode the highest quality source
> materiel you can get your
> hands on.
> Digi-Beta source will give you a much better quality
> for your encoded
> files than lets say mini-DV source.
> Use cleaner, it is the better option out there.
> Experiment with different encoders. WM10 should be
> better than WM9, and
> for sure it is better than WM8.
>
>
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From: fleeta j <fleeta-itp@sens.eu.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 3:51:49 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Woo Hoo for Harry Reid!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Who knew, a Democrat from Nevada may re-shape the courts...
Go Harry, Go Harry...

-IF you have no idea what I am on about, check the front page of the  
NYTimes...

peace,fleeta

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From: ann poochareon <itp@miserychick.net>
Date: September 19, 2005 9:19:56 AM EDT
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Subject: London
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hi listies

i'm going to london for the weekend, could anyone recommend your  
favorite indian, japanese, and other ethnic restaurants that aren't  
too expensive?  also, any cool, low-key dive bars to check out?  i'll  
be in paddington.

thank you thank you

ann

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From: marc maleh <mm1567@nyu.edu>
Date: September 19, 2005 12:15:28 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: London
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you gotta go here.
http://www.wagamama.com/
Republic style but better.

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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 12:35:31 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: London
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mcdonalds has a GREAT Lamb McKorma.


On Sep 19, 2005, at 9:19 AM, ann poochareon wrote:

> hi listies
>
> i'm going to london for the weekend, could anyone recommend your  
> favorite indian, japanese, and other ethnic restaurants that aren't  
> too expensive?  also, any cool, low-key dive bars to check out?   
> i'll be in paddington.
>
> thank you thank you
>
> ann
>
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From: Vijayendra S Sekhon <vs442@nyu.edu>
Date: September 19, 2005 4:06:45 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: London
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I heard South Hall in London is like Jackson Heights of New York.

vj



----- Original Message -----
From: ann poochareon <itp@miserychick.net>
Date: Monday, September 19, 2005 6:19 am
Subject: London

> hi listies
>
> i'm going to london for the weekend, could anyone recommend your
> favorite indian, japanese, and other ethnic restaurants that aren't
>
> too expensive?  also, any cool, low-key dive bars to check out?
> i'll
> be in paddington.
>
> thank you thank you
>
> ann
>
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From: fleeta j <fleeta-itp@sens.eu.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 7:11:32 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: London
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Wagamama is an chain of anglo-style asian-fusion food. OK, but if you  
know better then go to the little Malaysian coffee shop off Wardour  
st (in chinatown)- the alley is accessible via the 'Crispy Duck'  
restaruant...

I think this is the only affordable place in town!

Dive bars- not in Paddington! Go over to Brick lane, where you can  
get your fill on Indian, Pakistani or Bangladeshi food. Plus there  
are many 'hot' pubs and clubs: 93 feet east, Vibe Bar to name my favs.

For japanese- goto Notorama in the Barbican- itself a marvel of urban  
living.
http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/restaurants/restaurant-221.php
Dont believe the review, they are not a chain- except for their bento  
outlets...

Have fun!

peace,fleeta


On Sep 19, 2005, at 2:19 PM, ann poochareon wrote:

> hi listies
>
> i'm going to london for the weekend, could anyone recommend your  
> favorite indian, japanese, and other ethnic restaurants that aren't  
> too expensive?  also, any cool, low-key dive bars to check out?   
> i'll be in paddington.
>
> thank you thank you
>
> ann
>
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From: fleeta j <fleeta-itp@sens.eu.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 7:54:56 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: London
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Forgot to mention Maroush Juice on Edgeware rd- nearby to Paddington.  
Best Lebanese food- shwarmas, falafel, etc

peace,fleeta


On Sep 20, 2005, at 12:11 PM, fleeta j wrote:

> Wagamama is an chain of anglo-style asian-fusion food. OK, but if  
> you know better then go to the little Malaysian coffee shop off  
> Wardour st (in chinatown)- the alley is accessible via the 'Crispy  
> Duck' restaruant...
>
> I think this is the only affordable place in town!
>
> Dive bars- not in Paddington! Go over to Brick lane, where you can  
> get your fill on Indian, Pakistani or Bangladeshi food. Plus there  
> are many 'hot' pubs and clubs: 93 feet east, Vibe Bar to name my favs.
>
> For japanese- goto Notorama in the Barbican- itself a marvel of  
> urban living.
> http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/restaurants/restaurant-221.php
> Dont believe the review, they are not a chain- except for their  
> bento outlets...
>
> Have fun!
>
> peace,fleeta
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2005, at 2:19 PM, ann poochareon wrote:
>
>
>> hi listies
>>
>> i'm going to london for the weekend, could anyone recommend your  
>> favorite indian, japanese, and other ethnic restaurants that  
>> aren't too expensive?  also, any cool, low-key dive bars to check  
>> out?  i'll be in paddington.
>>
>> thank you thank you
>>
>> ann
>>
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From: ann poochareon <itp@miserychick.net>
Date: September 21, 2005 5:26:08 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: London
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

thanks guys, for the on and off list replies.  now i have more place  
to eat than the amount of meals i'll be there for!

this list RULES!

ann


On Sep 20, 2005, at 1:54 PM, fleeta j wrote:

> Forgot to mention Maroush Juice on Edgeware rd- nearby to  
> Paddington. Best Lebanese food- shwarmas, falafel, etc
>
> peace,fleeta
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2005, at 12:11 PM, fleeta j wrote:
>
>
>> Wagamama is an chain of anglo-style asian-fusion food. OK, but if  
>> you know better then go to the little Malaysian coffee shop off  
>> Wardour st (in chinatown)- the alley is accessible via the 'Crispy  
>> Duck' restaruant...
>>
>> I think this is the only affordable place in town!
>>
>> Dive bars- not in Paddington! Go over to Brick lane, where you can  
>> get your fill on Indian, Pakistani or Bangladeshi food. Plus there  
>> are many 'hot' pubs and clubs: 93 feet east, Vibe Bar to name my  
>> favs.
>>
>> For japanese- goto Notorama in the Barbican- itself a marvel of  
>> urban living.
>> http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/restaurants/restaurant-221.php
>> Dont believe the review, they are not a chain- except for their  
>> bento outlets...
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>> peace,fleeta
>>
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2005, at 2:19 PM, ann poochareon wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> hi listies
>>>
>>> i'm going to london for the weekend, could anyone recommend your  
>>> favorite indian, japanese, and other ethnic restaurants that  
>>> aren't too expensive?  also, any cool, low-key dive bars to check  
>>> out?  i'll be in paddington.
>>>
>>> thank you thank you
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
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From: luis alvarez y alvarez <luis@fin4.org>
Date: September 19, 2005 5:18:52 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Amsterdam
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I am going to Amsterdam for the weekend.
Your suggestions are appreciated.
Attending this:
http://culturebase.org/home/struppek/Homepage/urbanscreens.html
anyone else from ITP going?
Luis.



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From: "Howard Greenstein (public)" <public@howardgreenstein.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 8:05:52 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Amsterdam
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Suggest you don't get stoned at a tea cafe and then walk through the  
red light district alone.
Not that I have much personal experience but one could get mugged or  
almost mugged until a loud group of americans came by and rescued  
me....ah...one.


HG

luis alvarez y alvarez wrote:

> I am going to Amsterdam for the weekend.
> Your suggestions are appreciated.
> Attending this:
> http://culturebase.org/home/struppek/Homepage/urbanscreens.html
> anyone else from ITP going?
> Luis.
>
>
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From: Bob Berger <berger.cvr@gmail.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 10:24:46 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Amsterdam
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Here are a few of my "dam favorites:

Nederlands Scheepvaartmuseum: The Netherlands Maritime Museum is  
housed in the National Naval Depot, a former arsenal of the Dutch  
Navy that is over 300 years old. The unique and superb collection  
tells the story of the maritime past of the Netherlands.

One of my favorite places in Amsterdam. Amazing museum of Dutch  
Maritime history. Many cool artifacts, ships, models and art. My  
specific favorite place in the museum is the exhibit about Jaan van  
Speik, a Dutch naval hero who gave the Dutch the expression "I'd  
rather blow myself up," primarily used in response to dating  
inquiries. Check it out at: http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/ 
index_ns.htm

Hortus Botanicus Amsterdam: One of the oldest botanic gardens in the  
world. Today, there are more than 6,000 plants (>4,000 species)  
growing in the garden and greenhouses. The Hortus is located in the  
Plantage district on the edge of the hectic center of Amsterdam.  
Behind the 300-year-old gates, however, the bustle of the city seems  
to disappear.

Hortus is cool. Back when the Dutch were exploring and colonizing  
they worked very hard to bring back examples of plants to cultivate  
and profit from at their other colonies. It was hard to get a plant  
from Sumatra to grow in Holland. The ones that they successfully  
managed to convey to and grow in Holland were spread all over the  
world. Interesting. My personal fave is what I like to call "The  
Mother of All Coffee." The first coffee plant brought to Europe was  
cloned and is the source for all the coffee that we drink. A clone of  
the first plant is at Hortus. If you like the coffee, then go visit  
it's ancestor and kowtow to it. http://www.hortus-botanicus.nl/index.asp

The Waag Society for Old and New Media: A knowledge institute  
operating on the cutting edge of culture and technology in relation  
to society, education, government and industry. With its knowledge  
Waag Society wishes to make a contribution to the design of the  
information society. In this it doesn't let itself be lead by  
technology but instead looks at the possibilities of people, their  
creativity and culture. The interplay of technology and culture is  
the driving force of all Waag Society's activities. The oldest  
secular building of Amsterdam has a long and varied history. De Waag  
was built in 1488 as a citygate but in the centuries that followed,  
the building successively served as a weighhouse, guildhall, fire  
station, municipal archives and museum for jewish history. The  
various guilds that were housed in the building left behind clear  
traces of their occupation. As a result, de Waag contains unique  
examples of brick-laying that include work form the master  
examinations of the members of the brick-layers guild.

In 1691 the guild of chirurgeons added an octagonal domed tower which  
housed the Theatrum Anatomicum. It was here, in this theatre that the  
first Northern European public dissections took place. Rembrandt was  
a regular visitor and immortalised the practice of anatomy in his  
painting 'The Anatomy Lesson of Dr. Tulp'. http://www.waag.org/ 
waagsite/

The only other thing that I can say is walk everywhere all the time.  
Amsterdam is beautiful and every neighborhood has great stuff to  
discover. I think that the last time I was there I must have walked  
about 10 miles a day. My feet were killing me, but it's really a  
walking/biking town. Rent a bike! Have a great trip!

-- 
Bob Berger
www.charlievictorromeo.com
http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
berger.cvr@gmail.com

"There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his  
hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

On 9/19/05, Howard Greenstein (public) <public@howardgreenstein.com>  
wrote:
Suggest you don't get stoned at a tea cafe and then walk through the red
light district alone.
Not that I have much personal experience but one could get mugged or
almost mugged until a loud group of americans came by and rescued
me....ah...one.


HG

luis alvarez y alvarez wrote:

 > I am going to Amsterdam for the weekend.
 > Your suggestions are appreciated.
 > Attending this:
 > http://culturebase.org/home/struppek/Homepage/urbanscreens.html
 > anyone else from ITP going?
 > Luis.
 >
 >
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Date: September 19, 2005 10:40:21 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Amsterdam
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oh, speaking of museums, that van gogh museum is there.  i'm not  
particularly into that era of painting, but seeing his paintings in  
person is great.  sooo much depth, literally, some of the paintings  
are an inch deep with layered paint.

On Sep 19, 2005, at 10:24 PM, Bob Berger wrote:

> Here are a few of my "dam favorites:
>
> Nederlands Scheepvaartmuseum: The Netherlands Maritime Museum is  
> housed in the National Naval Depot, a former arsenal of the Dutch  
> Navy that is over 300 years old. The unique and superb collection  
> tells the story of the maritime past of the Netherlands.
>
>  One of my favorite places in Amsterdam. Amazing museum of Dutch  
> Maritime history. Many cool artifacts, ships, models and art. My  
> specific favorite place in the museum is the exhibit about Jaan van  
> Speik, a Dutch naval hero who gave the Dutch the expression "I'd  
> rather blow myself up," primarily used in response to dating  
> inquiries. Check it out at: http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/ 
> index_ns.htm
>
> Hortus Botanicus Amsterdam: One of the oldest botanic gardens in  
> the world. Today, there are more than 6,000 plants (>4,000 species)  
> growing in the garden and greenhouses. The Hortus is located in the  
> Plantage district on the edge of the hectic center of Amsterdam.  
> Behind the 300-year-old gates, however, the bustle of the city  
> seems to disappear.
>
>  Hortus is cool. Back when the Dutch were exploring and colonizing  
> they worked very hard to bring back examples of plants to cultivate  
> and profit from at their other colonies. It was hard to get a plant  
> from Sumatra to grow in Holland. The ones that they successfully  
> managed to convey to and grow in Holland were spread all over the  
> world. Interesting. My personal fave is what I like to call "The  
> Mother of All Coffee." The first coffee plant brought to Europe was  
> cloned and is the source for all the coffee that we drink. A clone  
> of the first plant is at Hortus. If you like the coffee, then go  
> visit it's ancestor and kowtow to it. http://www.hortus- 
> botanicus.nl/index.asp
>
> The Waag Society for Old and New Media: A knowledge institute  
> operating on the cutting edge of culture and technology in relation  
> to society, education, government and industry. With its knowledge  
> Waag Society wishes to make a contribution to the design of the  
> information society. In this it doesn't let itself be lead by  
> technology but instead looks at the possibilities of people, their  
> creativity and culture. The interplay of technology and culture is  
> the driving force of all Waag Society's activities. The oldest  
> secular building of Amsterdam has a long and varied history. De  
> Waag was built in 1488 as a citygate but in the centuries that  
> followed, the building successively served as a weighhouse,  
> guildhall, fire station, municipal archives and museum for jewish  
> history. The various guilds that were housed in the building left  
> behind clear traces of their occupation. As a result, de Waag  
> contains unique examples of brick-laying that include work form the  
> master examinations of the members of the brick-layers guild.
>
>  In 1691 the guild of chirurgeons added an octagonal domed tower  
> which housed the Theatrum Anatomicum. It was here, in this theatre  
> that the first Northern European public dissections took place.  
> Rembrandt was a regular visitor and immortalised the practice of  
> anatomy in his painting 'The Anatomy Lesson of Dr. Tulp'. http:// 
> www.waag.org/waagsite/
>
>  The only other thing that I can say is walk everywhere all the  
> time. Amsterdam is beautiful and every neighborhood has great stuff  
> to discover. I think that the last time I was there I must have  
> walked about 10 miles a day. My feet were killing me, but it's  
> really a walking/biking town. Rent a bike! Have a great trip!
>
>  --
>  Bob Berger
> www.charlievictorromeo.com
> http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
> berger.cvr@gmail.com
>
>  "There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his  
> hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L.  
> Mencken
>
> On 9/19/05, Howard Greenstein (public)  
> <public@howardgreenstein.com> wrote:
>> light district alone.
>> Not that I have much personal experience but one could get mugged or
>> almost mugged until a loud group of americans came by and rescued
>> me....ah...one.
>>
>>
>> HG
>>
>> luis alvarez y alvarez wrote:
>>
>> > I am going to Amsterdam for the weekend.
>> > Your suggestions are appreciated.
>> > Attending this:
>> > http://culturebase.org/home/struppek/Homepage/urbanscreens.html
>> > anyone else from ITP going?
>> > Luis.
>> >
>> >
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Date: September 20, 2005 6:55:38 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Amsterdam
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


The Van Gogh Musuem is really worth seeing.

C-
--- eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com> wrote:

> oh, speaking of museums, that van gogh museum is
> there.  i'm not
> particularly into that era of painting, but seeing
> his paintings in
> person is great.  sooo much depth, literally, some
> of the paintings are
> an inch deep with layered paint.
>
> On Sep 19, 2005, at 10:24 PM, Bob Berger wrote:
>
>> Here are a few of my "dam favorites:
>>
>> Nederlands Scheepvaartmuseum: The Netherlands
> Maritime Museum is
>> housed in the National Naval Depot, a former
> arsenal of the Dutch Navy
>> that is over 300 years old. The unique and superb
> collection tells the
>> story of the maritime past of the Netherlands.
>>
>>  One of my favorite places in Amsterdam. Amazing
> museum of Dutch
>> Maritime history. Many cool artifacts, ships,
> models and art. My
>> specific favorite place in the museum is the
> exhibit about Jaan van
>> Speik, a Dutch naval hero who gave the Dutch the
> expression "I'd
>> rather blow myself up," primarily used in response
> to dating
>> inquiries. Check it out at:
>> http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/index_ns.htm
>>
>> Hortus Botanicus Amsterdam: One of the oldest
> botanic gardens in the
>> world. Today, there are more than 6,000 plants
> (>4,000 species)
>> growing in the garden and greenhouses. The Hortus
> is located in the
>> Plantage district on the edge of the hectic center
> of Amsterdam.
>> Behind the 300-year-old gates, however, the bustle
> of the city seems
>> to disappear.
>>
>>  Hortus is cool. Back when the Dutch were
> exploring and colonizing
>> they worked very hard to bring back examples of
> plants to cultivate
>> and profit from at their other colonies. It was
> hard to get a plant
>> from Sumatra to grow in Holland. The ones that
> they successfully
>> managed to convey to and grow in Holland were
> spread all over the
>> world. Interesting. My personal fave is what I
> like to call "The
>> Mother of All Coffee." The first coffee plant
> brought to Europe was
>> cloned and is the source for all the coffee that
> we drink. A clone of
>> the first plant is at Hortus. If you like the
> coffee, then go visit
>> it's ancestor and kowtow to it.
>> http://www.hortus-botanicus.nl/index.asp
>>
>> The Waag Society for Old and New Media: A
> knowledge institute
>> operating on the cutting edge of culture and
> technology in relation to
>> society, education, government and industry. With
> its knowledge Waag
>> Society wishes to make a contribution to the
> design of the information
>> society. In this it doesn't let itself be lead by
> technology but
>> instead looks at the possibilities of people,
> their creativity and
>> culture. The interplay of technology and culture
> is the driving force
>> of all Waag Society's activities. The oldest
> secular building of
>> Amsterdam has a long and varied history. De Waag
> was built in 1488 as
>> a citygate but in the centuries that followed, the
> building
>> successively served as a weighhouse, guildhall,
> fire station,
>> municipal archives and museum for jewish history.
> The various guilds
>> that were housed in the building left behind clear
> traces of their
>> occupation. As a result, de Waag contains unique
> examples of
>> brick-laying that include work form the master
> examinations of the
>> members of the brick-layers guild.
>>
>>  In 1691 the guild of chirurgeons added an
> octagonal domed tower which
>> housed the Theatrum Anatomicum. It was here, in
> this theatre that the
>> first Northern European public dissections took
> place. Rembrandt was a
>> regular visitor and immortalised the practice of
> anatomy in his
>> painting 'The Anatomy Lesson of Dr. Tulp'.
>> http://www.waag.org/waagsite/
>>
>>  The only other thing that I can say is walk
> everywhere all the time.
>> Amsterdam is beautiful and every neighborhood has
> great stuff to
>> discover. I think that the last time I was there I
> must have walked
>> about 10 miles a day. My feet were killing me, but
> it's really a
>> walking/biking town. Rent a bike! Have a great
> trip!
>>
>>  --
>>  Bob Berger
>> www.charlievictorromeo.com
>> http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
>> berger.cvr@gmail.com
>>
>>  "There comes a time when every man feels the urge
> to spit on his
>> hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting
> throats." - H.L.
>> Mencken
>>
>> On 9/19/05, Howard Greenstein (public)
> <public@howardgreenstein.com>
>> wrote:
>>> light district alone.
>>> Not that I have much personal experience but one
> could get mugged or
>>> almost mugged until a loud group of americans
> came by and rescued
>>> me....ah...one.
>>>
>>>
>>> HG
>>>
>>> luis alvarez y alvarez wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am going to Amsterdam for the weekend.
>>>> Your suggestions are appreciated.
>>>> Attending this:
>>>>
>
http://culturebase.org/home/struppek/Homepage/urbanscreens.html
>>>> anyone else from ITP going?
>>>> Luis.
>>>>
>>>>
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Date: September 20, 2005 7:45:39 AM EDT
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Second the Van Gogh. Also the Rijks, right nearby.

Hey don't forget to hit the coffeeshop first. Particularly Grey  
Area: Oude Leliestraat 2, multiple winner of the "Cannabis Cup". Say  
hi to John, the owner. (Or so I've heard.) Then go over the canal  
to the place with green stripey awning for excellent homemade apple  
cake. Or Puccini Bonboni right down the street - I would say 2nd  
best chocolates in the world.

Then keep munching. Get your rijsttafel on at Tujuh Maret,  
Utrechtsestraat 73. Thai food at Cook Kai:Tweede Rozendwarsstraat  
3 in the Jordaan.

Hartogs Volkorenbakkerij voted best bakery in 'Dam and I can  
confirm. (seehttp://www.zibb.nl/food/dossier/asp/portal/0/sctr/0/ 
dossier/1619/hoofdstuk/5/sortering/False/artikel/914533/bt//index.html)
There's a place on Berenstraat or Runstraat in the Jordaan that also  
is great - they make a wicked sandwich with cream cheese, walnuts and  
honey.

Like Howard said, steer clear of the Red Light District...


On 20 Sep 2005, at 11:55, Camilla Beltrami wrote:

The Van Gogh Musuem is really worth seeing.

C-
--- eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com> wrote:


oh, speaking of museums, that van gogh museum is
there.  i'm not
particularly into that era of painting, but seeing
his paintings in
person is great.  sooo much depth, literally, some
of the paintings are
an inch deep with layered paint.

On Sep 19, 2005, at 10:24 PM, Bob Berger wrote:


Here are a few of my "dam favorites:

Nederlands Scheepvaartmuseum: The Netherlands

Maritime Museum is

housed in the National Naval Depot, a former

arsenal of the Dutch Navy

that is over 300 years old. The unique and superb

collection tells the

story of the maritime past of the Netherlands.

  One of my favorite places in Amsterdam. Amazing

museum of Dutch

Maritime history. Many cool artifacts, ships,

models and art. My

specific favorite place in the museum is the

exhibit about Jaan van

Speik, a Dutch naval hero who gave the Dutch the

expression "I'd

rather blow myself up," primarily used in response

to dating

inquiries. Check it out at:
http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/index_ns.htm

Hortus Botanicus Amsterdam: One of the oldest

botanic gardens in the

world. Today, there are more than 6,000 plants

(>4,000 species)

growing in the garden and greenhouses. The Hortus

is located in the

Plantage district on the edge of the hectic center

of Amsterdam.

Behind the 300-year-old gates, however, the bustle

of the city seems

to disappear.

  Hortus is cool. Back when the Dutch were

exploring and colonizing

they worked very hard to bring back examples of

plants to cultivate

and profit from at their other colonies. It was

hard to get a plant

from Sumatra to grow in Holland. The ones that

they successfully

managed to convey to and grow in Holland were

spread all over the

world. Interesting. My personal fave is what I

like to call "The

Mother of All Coffee." The first coffee plant

brought to Europe was

cloned and is the source for all the coffee that

we drink. A clone of

the first plant is at Hortus. If you like the

coffee, then go visit

it's ancestor and kowtow to it.
http://www.hortus-botanicus.nl/index.asp

The Waag Society for Old and New Media: A

knowledge institute

operating on the cutting edge of culture and

technology in relation to

society, education, government and industry. With

its knowledge Waag

Society wishes to make a contribution to the

design of the information

society. In this it doesn't let itself be lead by

technology but

instead looks at the possibilities of people,

their creativity and

culture. The interplay of technology and culture

is the driving force

of all Waag Society's activities. The oldest

secular building of

Amsterdam has a long and varied history. De Waag

was built in 1488 as

a citygate but in the centuries that followed, the

building

successively served as a weighhouse, guildhall,

fire station,

municipal archives and museum for jewish history.

The various guilds

that were housed in the building left behind clear

traces of their

occupation. As a result, de Waag contains unique

examples of

brick-laying that include work form the master

examinations of the

members of the brick-layers guild.

  In 1691 the guild of chirurgeons added an

octagonal domed tower which

housed the Theatrum Anatomicum. It was here, in

this theatre that the

first Northern European public dissections took

place. Rembrandt was a

regular visitor and immortalised the practice of

anatomy in his

painting 'The Anatomy Lesson of Dr. Tulp'.
http://www.waag.org/waagsite/

  The only other thing that I can say is walk

everywhere all the time.

Amsterdam is beautiful and every neighborhood has

great stuff to

discover. I think that the last time I was there I

must have walked

about 10 miles a day. My feet were killing me, but

it's really a

walking/biking town. Rent a bike! Have a great

trip!


  --
  Bob Berger
www.charlievictorromeo.com
http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
berger.cvr@gmail.com

  "There comes a time when every man feels the urge

to spit on his

hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting

throats." - H.L.

Mencken

On 9/19/05, Howard Greenstein (public)

<public@howardgreenstein.com>

wrote:

light district alone.
Not that I have much personal experience but one

could get mugged or

almost mugged until a loud group of americans

came by and rescued

me....ah...one.


HG

luis alvarez y alvarez wrote:


I am going to Amsterdam for the weekend.
Your suggestions are appreciated.
Attending this:




http://culturebase.org/home/struppek/Homepage/urbanscreens.html

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From: Bob Berger <berger.cvr@gmail.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 7:53:08 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Amsterdam
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

The Rijks Museum is under renovations till like 2008 and that means  
that they took the 400 "most popular" paintings (Nightwatch for  
example) and put them on two floors of a wing of the building. That  
is all that is accessible. Sucks because the building itself is so  
cool, as are all of the lesser known parts of the collections. I  
would still recommend going, but it's not the same thing.

-- 
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www.charlievictorromeo.com
http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
berger.cvr@gmail.com

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hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

On 9/20/05, Kevin Walker <kevin@exhibitresearch.com > wrote:
Second the Van Gogh. Also the Rijks, right nearby.

Hey don't forget to hit the coffeeshop first. Particularly Grey  
Area: Oude Leliestraat 2, multiple winner of the "Cannabis Cup". Say  
hi to John, the owner. (Or so I've heard.) Then go over the canal  
to the place with green stripey awning for excellent homemade apple  
cake. Or Puccini Bonboni right down the street - I would say 2nd  
best chocolates in the world.

Then keep munching. Get your rijsttafel on at Tujuh Maret,  
Utrechtsestraat 73. Thai food at Cook Kai: Tweede Rozendwarsstraat  
3 in the Jordaan.

Hartog's Volkorenbakkerij voted best bakery in 'Dam and I can  
confirm. (see http://www.zibb.nl/food/dossier/asp/portal/0/sctr/0/ 
dossier/1619/hoofdstuk/5/sortering/False/artikel/914533/bt//index.html)
There's a place on Berenstraat or Runstraat in the Jordaan that also  
is great - they make a wicked sandwich with cream cheese, walnuts and  
honey.

Like Howard said, steer clear of the Red Light District...


On 20 Sep 2005, at 11:55, Camilla Beltrami wrote:


The Van Gogh Musuem is really worth seeing.

C-
--- eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com> wrote:


oh, speaking of museums, that van gogh museum is
there. i'm not
particularly into that era of painting, but seeing
his paintings in
person is great. sooo much depth, literally, some
of the paintings are
an inch deep with layered paint.

On Sep 19, 2005, at 10:24 PM, Bob Berger wrote:


Here are a few of my "dam favorites:

Nederlands Scheepvaartmuseum: The Netherlands

Maritime Museum is

housed in the National Naval Depot, a former

arsenal of the Dutch Navy

that is over 300 years old. The unique and superb

collection tells the 

story of the maritime past of the Netherlands.

One of my favorite places in Amsterdam. Amazing

museum of Dutch

Maritime history. Many cool artifacts, ships,

models and art. My

specific favorite place in the museum is the

exhibit about Jaan van

Speik, a Dutch naval hero who gave the Dutch the

expression "I'd

rather blow myself up," primarily used in response

to dating

inquiries. Check it out at: 
http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/index_ns.htm

Hortus Botanicus Amsterdam: One of the oldest

botanic gardens in the

world. Today, there are more than 6,000 plants

(>4,000 species)

growing in the garden and greenhouses. The Hortus

is located in the

Plantage district on the edge of the hectic center

of Amsterdam.

Behind the 300-year-old gates, however, the bustle

of the city seems

to disappear.

Hortus is cool. Back when the Dutch were

exploring and colonizing

they worked very hard to bring back examples of

plants to cultivate

and profit from at their other colonies. It was

hard to get a plant

from Sumatra to grow in Holland. The ones that

they successfully

managed to convey to and grow in Holland were

spread all over the

world. Interesting. My personal fave is what I

like to call "The

Mother of All Coffee." The first coffee plant

brought to Europe was

cloned and is the source for all the coffee that

we drink. A clone of 

the first plant is at Hortus. If you like the

coffee, then go visit

it's ancestor and kowtow to it.
http://www.hortus-botanicus.nl/index.asp

The Waag Society for Old and New Media: A

knowledge institute

operating on the cutting edge of culture and

technology in relation to

society, education, government and industry. With

its knowledge Waag

Society wishes to make a contribution to the

design of the information

society. In this it doesn't let itself be lead by

technology but

instead looks at the possibilities of people,

their creativity and

culture. The interplay of technology and culture

is the driving force

of all Waag Society's activities. The oldest

secular building of

Amsterdam has a long and varied history. De Waag

was built in 1488 as

a citygate but in the centuries that followed, the

building

successively served as a weighhouse, guildhall,

fire station,

municipal archives and museum for jewish history.

The various guilds

that were housed in the building left behind clear

traces of their

occupation. As a result, de Waag contains unique

examples of

brick-laying that include work form the master

examinations of the

members of the brick-layers guild.

In 1691 the guild of chirurgeons added an

octagonal domed tower which

housed the Theatrum Anatomicum. It was here, in

this theatre that the

first Northern European public dissections took

place. Rembrandt was a

regular visitor and immortalised the practice of

anatomy in his

painting 'The Anatomy Lesson of Dr. Tulp'. 
http://www.waag.org/waagsite/

The only other thing that I can say is walk

everywhere all the time.

Amsterdam is beautiful and every neighborhood has

great stuff to

discover. I think that the last time I was there I

must have walked

about 10 miles a day. My feet were killing me, but

it's really a

walking/biking town. Rent a bike! Have a great

trip!


--
Bob Berger
www.charlievictorromeo.com
http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
berger.cvr@gmail.com

"There comes a time when every man feels the urge

to spit on his

hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting

throats." - H.L.

Mencken

On 9/19/05, Howard Greenstein (public)

<public@howardgreenstein.com>

wrote:

light district alone.
Not that I have much personal experience but one

could get mugged or

almost mugged until a loud group of americans

came by and rescued

me....ah...one.


HG

luis alvarez y alvarez wrote:


I am going to Amsterdam for the weekend.
Your suggestions are appreciated.
Attending this:




http://culturebase.org/home/struppek/Homepage/urbanscreens.html

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Dear Luis,

Just came back from AMS a couple of weeks ago and found a great,
inexpensive place for breakfast.  It's on the same street as Anne
Frank House, about 15 feet further down the road.  It has a red and
white striped awning and you have to step down two steps to walk in to
it.  Try the Dutch mini-pancakes with what they call icing. (It's
powdered sugar but the heat of the pancakes makes it melty and
delicious.)  The coffee is great too, but that's a constant in AMS.

Have fun.

-Chris

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Date: Monday, September 19, 2005 5:18 pm
Subject: Amsterdam

> I am going to Amsterdam for the weekend.
> Your suggestions are appreciated.
> Attending this:
> http://culturebase.org/home/struppek/Homepage/urbanscreens.html
> anyone else from ITP going?
> Luis.
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Date: September 20, 2005 10:51:16 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Amsterdam
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Thanks to everyone that responded.
Luis.
On Sep 20, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Christopher G Calvosa wrote:

> Dear Luis,
>
> Just came back from AMS a couple of weeks ago and found a great,
> inexpensive place for breakfast.  It's on the same street as Anne
> Frank House, about 15 feet further down the road.  It has a red and
> white striped awning and you have to step down two steps to walk in to
> it.  Try the Dutch mini-pancakes with what they call icing. (It's
> powdered sugar but the heat of the pancakes makes it melty and
> delicious.)  The coffee is great too, but that's a constant in AMS.
>
> Have fun.
>
> -Chris
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: luis alvarez y alvarez <luis@fin4.org>
> Date: Monday, September 19, 2005 5:18 pm
> Subject: Amsterdam
>
>
>> I am going to Amsterdam for the weekend.
>> Your suggestions are appreciated.
>> Attending this:
>> http://culturebase.org/home/struppek/Homepage/urbanscreens.html
>> anyone else from ITP going?
>> Luis.
>>
>>
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From: Sarah Michael <sem247@nyu.edu>
Date: September 20, 2005 12:18:16 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Amsterdam
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Sorry but I have to chime in and disagree with the warnings about the
Red Light District. Now, I do not suggest going alone, stoned late at
night, but I went in a group during the early evening before it got
too dark and it was fine. Just walk around and take in this other
world. Then get the hell out.

___________________________

s a r a h  m i c h a e l
___________________________

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Walker <kevin@exhibitresearch.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 4:45 am
Subject: Re: Amsterdam

> Second the Van Gogh.  Also the Rijks, right nearby.
>
> Hey don't forget to hit the coffeeshop first.  Particularly Grey
> Area: Oude Leliestraat 2, multiple winner of the "Cannabis Cup".
> Say
> hi to John, the owner.  (Or so I've heard.)  Then go over the
> canal
> to the place with green stripey awning for excellent homemade
> apple
> cake.  Or Puccini Bonboni right down the street - I would say 2nd
> best chocolates in the world.
>
> Then keep munching.  Get your rijsttafel on at Tujuh Maret,
> Utrechtsestraat 73.  Thai food at Cook Kai: Tweede
> Rozendwarsstraat 3
> in the Jordaan.
>
> Hartogs Volkorenbakkerij voted best bakery in 'Dam and I can
> confirm.  (see
> http://www.zibb.nl/food/dossier/asp/portal/0/sctr/0/
>
dossier/1619/hoofdstuk/5/sortering/False/artikel/914533/bt//index.html)
> There's a place on Berenstraat or Runstraat in the Jordaan that
> also
> is great - they make a wicked sandwich with cream cheese, walnuts
> and
> honey.
>
> Like Howard said, steer clear of the Red Light District...
>
>
> On 20 Sep 2005, at 11:55, Camilla Beltrami wrote:
>
>>
>> The Van Gogh Musuem is really worth seeing.
>>
>> C-
>> --- eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> oh, speaking of museums, that van gogh museum is
>>> there.  i'm not
>>> particularly into that era of painting, but seeing
>>> his paintings in
>>> person is great.  sooo much depth, literally, some
>>> of the paintings are
>>> an inch deep with layered paint.
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2005, at 10:24 PM, Bob Berger wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Here are a few of my "dam favorites:
>>>>
>>>> Nederlands Scheepvaartmuseum: The Netherlands
>>>>
>>> Maritime Museum is
>>>
>>>> housed in the National Naval Depot, a former
>>>>
>>> arsenal of the Dutch Navy
>>>
>>>> that is over 300 years old. The unique and superb
>>>>
>>> collection tells the
>>>
>>>> story of the maritime past of the Netherlands.
>>>>
>>>>  One of my favorite places in Amsterdam. Amazing
>>>>
>>> museum of Dutch
>>>
>>>> Maritime history. Many cool artifacts, ships,
>>>>
>>> models and art. My
>>>
>>>> specific favorite place in the museum is the
>>>>
>>> exhibit about Jaan van
>>>
>>>> Speik, a Dutch naval hero who gave the Dutch the
>>>>
>>> expression "I'd
>>>
>>>> rather blow myself up," primarily used in response
>>>>
>>> to dating
>>>
>>>> inquiries. Check it out at:
>>>> http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/index_ns.htm
>>>>
>>>> Hortus Botanicus Amsterdam: One of the oldest
>>>>
>>> botanic gardens in the
>>>
>>>> world. Today, there are more than 6,000 plants
>>>>
>>> (>4,000 species)
>>>
>>>> growing in the garden and greenhouses. The Hortus
>>>>
>>> is located in the
>>>
>>>> Plantage district on the edge of the hectic center
>>>>
>>> of Amsterdam.
>>>
>>>> Behind the 300-year-old gates, however, the bustle
>>>>
>>> of the city seems
>>>
>>>> to disappear.
>>>>
>>>>  Hortus is cool. Back when the Dutch were
>>>>
>>> exploring and colonizing
>>>
>>>> they worked very hard to bring back examples of
>>>>
>>> plants to cultivate
>>>
>>>> and profit from at their other colonies. It was
>>>>
>>> hard to get a plant
>>>
>>>> from Sumatra to grow in Holland. The ones that
>>>>
>>> they successfully
>>>
>>>> managed to convey to and grow in Holland were
>>>>
>>> spread all over the
>>>
>>>> world. Interesting. My personal fave is what I
>>>>
>>> like to call "The
>>>
>>>> Mother of All Coffee." The first coffee plant
>>>>
>>> brought to Europe was
>>>
>>>> cloned and is the source for all the coffee that
>>>>
>>> we drink. A clone of
>>>
>>>> the first plant is at Hortus. If you like the
>>>>
>>> coffee, then go visit
>>>
>>>> it's ancestor and kowtow to it.
>>>> http://www.hortus-botanicus.nl/index.asp
>>>>
>>>> The Waag Society for Old and New Media: A
>>>>
>>> knowledge institute
>>>
>>>> operating on the cutting edge of culture and
>>>>
>>> technology in relation to
>>>
>>>> society, education, government and industry. With
>>>>
>>> its knowledge Waag
>>>
>>>> Society wishes to make a contribution to the
>>>>
>>> design of the information
>>>
>>>> society. In this it doesn't let itself be lead by
>>>>
>>> technology but
>>>
>>>> instead looks at the possibilities of people,
>>>>
>>> their creativity and
>>>
>>>> culture. The interplay of technology and culture
>>>>
>>> is the driving force
>>>
>>>> of all Waag Society's activities. The oldest
>>>>
>>> secular building of
>>>
>>>> Amsterdam has a long and varied history. De Waag
>>>>
>>> was built in 1488 as
>>>
>>>> a citygate but in the centuries that followed, the
>>>>
>>> building
>>>
>>>> successively served as a weighhouse, guildhall,
>>>>
>>> fire station,
>>>
>>>> municipal archives and museum for jewish history.
>>>>
>>> The various guilds
>>>
>>>> that were housed in the building left behind clear
>>>>
>>> traces of their
>>>
>>>> occupation. As a result, de Waag contains unique
>>>>
>>> examples of
>>>
>>>> brick-laying that include work form the master
>>>>
>>> examinations of the
>>>
>>>> members of the brick-layers guild.
>>>>
>>>>  In 1691 the guild of chirurgeons added an
>>>>
>>> octagonal domed tower which
>>>
>>>> housed the Theatrum Anatomicum. It was here, in
>>>>
>>> this theatre that the
>>>
>>>> first Northern European public dissections took
>>>>
>>> place. Rembrandt was a
>>>
>>>> regular visitor and immortalised the practice of
>>>>
>>> anatomy in his
>>>
>>>> painting 'The Anatomy Lesson of Dr. Tulp'.
>>>> http://www.waag.org/waagsite/
>>>>
>>>>  The only other thing that I can say is walk
>>>>
>>> everywhere all the time.
>>>
>>>> Amsterdam is beautiful and every neighborhood has
>>>>
>>> great stuff to
>>>
>>>> discover. I think that the last time I was there I
>>>>
>>> must have walked
>>>
>>>> about 10 miles a day. My feet were killing me, but
>>>>
>>> it's really a
>>>
>>>> walking/biking town. Rent a bike! Have a great
>>>>
>>> trip!
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>>  Bob Berger
>>>> www.charlievictorromeo.com
>>>> http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
>>>> berger.cvr@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>  "There comes a time when every man feels the urge
>>>>
>>> to spit on his
>>>
>>>> hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting
>>>>
>>> throats." - H.L.
>>>
>>>> Mencken
>>>>
>>>> On 9/19/05, Howard Greenstein (public)
>>>>
>>> <public@howardgreenstein.com>
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> light district alone.
>>>>> Not that I have much personal experience but one
>>>>>
>>> could get mugged or
>>>
>>>>> almost mugged until a loud group of americans
>>>>>
>>> came by and rescued
>>>
>>>>> me....ah...one.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HG
>>>>>
>>>>> luis alvarez y alvarez wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am going to Amsterdam for the weekend.
>>>>>> Your suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>>> Attending this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> http://culturebase.org/home/struppek/Homepage/urbanscreens.html
>>
>>>>>> anyone else from ITP going?
>>>>>> Luis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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From: ep243@aol.com
Date: September 20, 2005 9:42:15 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Amsterdam
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

OK, chiming in my tow cents. I lived there about 10 years ago for a  
year and a half. Things may have changed, haven't been back in a while.

Anyway- the bike suggestion is good. There's a road near in the Oude  
West that will take you alongside a stream/river and you will pass an  
old windmill. Nice and relaxing. Another option is to ride out  
towards Amsterdammer Bos in the south. Ask directions, it's been a  
long time fro me. Also in thisof the Oude Westis the  
Westergassfabrik. During the day, it's a cafe (not a coffeehouse) and  
lots of artists hang out there. At night, the vibe becomes a bit more  
hip and back when I was there it turned into a nightclub.

One of the prettiest coffeehouses I came across is called Het  
Groenhuis. There's one near the Heineken Brouwerie and another one  
near the red light district. Nice to stop in and have a cafe verkeerd.


Foodwise- I'm not a big fan of Dutch cooking (and I even have Dutch  
roots), but Amsterdam has a huge base of Suriname and Indonesian  
immigrants. Sample some of both of these while your there. They've  
got NYC beat hands down on these two ethnic cuisines. Stay away from  
the touristy restaurants near the Leidserplein and Rembrantsplein.  
Ask around for recs.

I'll second the recs to visit the Van Gogh and Rijksmuseums. Avoid  
the Torture museum and the sex museum (arggh, I was subjected to  
visiting them with friends who were visiting from the states) unless  
you want to have the truly kitchy theme park experience.

Walk down the the Singlegracht or the Herengracht (can't remember  
which one) to catch the early morning flower market (if you're awake).

Visit Vondelpark.

I know there are some other little hidden gems I am forgetting...


Have a great time.

liz p


-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah Michael <sem247@nyu.edu>
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Sent: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 09:18:16 -0700
Subject: Re: Amsterdam

Sorry but I have to chime in and disagree with the warnings about the
Red Light District. Now, I do not suggest going alone, stoned late at
night, but I went in a group during the early evening before it got
too dark and it was fine. Just walk around and take in this other
world. Then get the hell out.

___________________________

s a r a h  m i c h a e l
___________________________

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Walker <kevin@exhibitresearch.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 4:45 am
Subject: Re: Amsterdam

 > Second the Van Gogh.  Also the Rijks, right nearby.
 >
 > Hey don't forget to hit the coffeeshop first.  Particularly Grey
 > Area: Oude Leliestraat 2, multiple winner of the "Cannabis Cup".
 > Say
 > hi to John, the owner.  (Or so I've heard.)  Then go over the
 > canal
 > to the place with green stripey awning for excellent homemade
 > apple
 > cake.  Or Puccini Bonboni right down the street - I would say 2nd
 > best chocolates in the world.
 >
 > Then keep munching.  Get your rijsttafel on at Tujuh Maret,
 > Utrechtsestraat 73.  Thai food at Cook Kai: Tweede
 > Rozendwarsstraat 3
 > in the Jordaan.
 >
 > Hartog?s Volkorenbakkerij voted best bakery in 'Dam and I can
 > confirm.  (see
 > http://www.zibb.nl/food/dossier/asp/portal/0/sctr/0/
 >
dossier/1619/hoofdstuk/5/sortering/False/artikel/914533/bt//index.html)
 > There's a place on Berenstraat or Runstraat in the Jordaan that
 > also
 > is great - they make a wicked sandwich with cream cheese, walnuts
 > and
 > honey.
 >
 > Like Howard said, steer clear of the Red Light District...
 >
 >
 > On 20 Sep 2005, at 11:55, Camilla Beltrami wrote:
 >
 > >
 > > The Van Gogh Musuem is really worth seeing.
 > >
 > > C-
 > > --- eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com> wrote:
 > >
 > >
 > >> oh, speaking of museums, that van gogh museum is
 > >> there.  i'm not
 > >> particularly into that era of painting, but seeing
 > >> his paintings in
 > >> person is great.  sooo much depth, literally, some
 > >> of the paintings are
 > >> an inch deep with layered paint.
 > >>
 > >> On Sep 19, 2005, at 10:24 PM, Bob Berger wrote:
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>> Here are a few of my "dam favorites:
 > >>>
 > >>> Nederlands Scheepvaartmuseum: The Netherlands
 > >>>
 > >> Maritime Museum is
 > >>
 > >>> housed in the National Naval Depot, a former
 > >>>
 > >> arsenal of the Dutch Navy
 > >>
 > >>> that is over 300 years old. The unique and superb
 > >>>
 > >> collection tells the
 > >>
 > >>> story of the maritime past of the Netherlands.
 > >>>
 > >>>  One of my favorite places in Amsterdam. Amazing
 > >>>
 > >> museum of Dutch
 > >>
 > >>> Maritime history. Many cool artifacts, ships,
 > >>>
 > >> models and art. My
 > >>
 > >>> specific favorite place in the museum is the
 > >>>
 > >> exhibit about Jaan van
 > >>
 > >>> Speik, a Dutch naval hero who gave the Dutch the
 > >>>
 > >> expression "I'd
 > >>
 > >>> rather blow myself up," primarily used in response
 > >>>
 > >> to dating
 > >>
 > >>> inquiries. Check it out at:
 > >>> http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/index_ns.htm
 > >>>
 > >>> Hortus Botanicus Amsterdam: One of the oldest
 > >>>
 > >> botanic gardens in the
 > >>
 > >>> world. Today, there are more than 6,000 plants
 > >>>
 > >> (>4,000 species)
 > >>
 > >>> growing in the garden and greenhouses. The Hortus
 > >>>
 > >> is located in the
 > >>
 > >>> Plantage district on the edge of the hectic center
 > >>>
 > >> of Amsterdam.
 > >>
 > >>> Behind the 300-year-old gates, however, the bustle
 > >>>
 > >> of the city seems
 > >>
 > >>> to disappear.
 > >>>
 > >>>  Hortus is cool. Back when the Dutch were
 > >>>
 > >> exploring and colonizing
 > >>
 > >>> they worked very hard to bring back examples of
 > >>>
 > >> plants to cultivate
 > >>
 > >>> and profit from at their other colonies. It was
 > >>>
 > >> hard to get a plant
 > >>
 > >>> from Sumatra to grow in Holland. The ones that
 > >>>
 > >> they successfully
 > >>
 > >>> managed to convey to and grow in Holland were
 > >>>
 > >> spread all over the
 > >>
 > >>> world. Interesting. My personal fave is what I
 > >>>
 > >> like to call "The
 > >>
 > >>> Mother of All Coffee." The first coffee plant
 > >>>
 > >> brought to Europe was
 > >>
 > >>> cloned and is the source for all the coffee that
 > >>>
 > >> we drink. A clone of
 > >>
 > >>> the first plant is at Hortus. If you like the
 > >>>
 > >> coffee, then go visit
 > >>
 > >>> it's ancestor and kowtow to it.
 > >>> http://www.hortus-botanicus.nl/index.asp
 > >>>
 > >>> The Waag Society for Old and New Media: A
 > >>>
 > >> knowledge institute
 > >>
 > >>> operating on the cutting edge of culture and
 > >>>
 > >> technology in relation to
 > >>
 > >>> society, education, government and industry. With
 > >>>
 > >> its knowledge Waag
 > >>
 > >>> Society wishes to make a contribution to the
 > >>>
 > >> design of the information
 > >>
 > >>> society. In this it doesn't let itself be lead by
 > >>>
 > >> technology but
 > >>
 > >>> instead looks at the possibilities of people,
 > >>>
 > >> their creativity and
 > >>
 > >>> culture. The interplay of technology and culture
 > >>>
 > >> is the driving force
 > >>
 > >>> of all Waag Society's activities. The oldest
 > >>>
 > >> secular building of
 > >>
 > >>> Amsterdam has a long and varied history. De Waag
 > >>>
 > >> was built in 1488 as
 > >>
 > >>> a citygate but in the centuries that followed, the
 > >>>
 > >> building
 > >>
 > >>> successively served as a weighhouse, guildhall,
 > >>>
 > >> fire station,
 > >>
 > >>> municipal archives and museum for jewish history.
 > >>>
 > >> The various guilds
 > >>
 > >>> that were housed in the building left behind clear
 > >>>
 > >> traces of their
 > >>
 > >>> occupation. As a result, de Waag contains unique
 > >>>
 > >> examples of
 > >>
 > >>> brick-laying that include work form the master
 > >>>
 > >> examinations of the
 > >>
 > >>> members of the brick-layers guild.
 > >>>
 > >>>  In 1691 the guild of chirurgeons added an
 > >>>
 > >> octagonal domed tower which
 > >>
 > >>> housed the Theatrum Anatomicum. It was here, in
 > >>>
 > >> this theatre that the
 > >>
 > >>> first Northern European public dissections took
 > >>>
 > >> place. Rembrandt was a
 > >>
 > >>> regular visitor and immortalised the practice of
 > >>>
 > >> anatomy in his
 > >>
 > >>> painting 'The Anatomy Lesson of Dr. Tulp'.
 > >>> http://www.waag.org/waagsite/
 > >>>
 > >>>  The only other thing that I can say is walk
 > >>>
 > >> everywhere all the time.
 > >>
 > >>> Amsterdam is beautiful and every neighborhood has
 > >>>
 > >> great stuff to
 > >>
 > >>> discover. I think that the last time I was there I
 > >>>
 > >> must have walked
 > >>
 > >>> about 10 miles a day. My feet were killing me, but
 > >>>
 > >> it's really a
 > >>
 > >>> walking/biking town. Rent a bike! Have a great
 > >>>
 > >> trip!
 > >>
 > >>>
 > >>>  --
 > >>>  Bob Berger
 > >>> www.charlievictorromeo.com
 > >>> http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
 > >>> berger.cvr@gmail.com
 > >>>
 > >>>  "There comes a time when every man feels the urge
 > >>>
 > >> to spit on his
 > >>
 > >>> hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting
 > >>>
 > >> throats." - H.L.
 > >>
 > >>> Mencken
 > >>>
 > >>> On 9/19/05, Howard Greenstein (public)
 > >>>
 > >> <public@howardgreenstein.com>
 > >>
 > >>> wrote:
 > >>>
 > >>>> light district alone.
 > >>>> Not that I have much personal experience but one
 > >>>>
 > >> could get mugged or
 > >>
 > >>>> almost mugged until a loud group of americans
 > >>>>
 > >> came by and rescued
 > >>
 > >>>> me....ah...one.
 > >>>>
 > >>>>
 > >>>> HG
 > >>>>
 > >>>> luis alvarez y alvarez wrote:
 > >>>>
 > >>>>
 > >>>>> I am going to Amsterdam for the weekend.
 > >>>>> Your suggestions are appreciated.
 > >>>>> Attending this:
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>>
 > >>
 > >>
 > > http://culturebase.org/home/struppek/Homepage/urbanscreens.html
 > >
 > >>>>> anyone else from ITP going?
 > >>>>> Luis.
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> ---
 > >>>>> You are currently subscribed to itp-alumni as:
 > >>>>> public@howardgreenstein.com
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 > >>>>> %%email.unsub%%
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Date: September 20, 2005 11:21:57 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Amsterdam
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

One last Amsterdam thing: Robodock 2005! NYC pals Madagascar  
Institute join pals SEEMEN in "...a unique international summer  
festival, that merges technology and art. During Robodock spectacular  
theatre acts, multi-media, visual arts, music, industrial  
installations, robots and experiments sweep the audience off their  
feet in an overwhelming flood of experiences."

http://laughingsquid.com/2005/09/20/robodock-2005/

-- 
Bob Berger
www.charlievictorromeo.com
http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
berger.cvr@gmail.com

"There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his  
hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

On 9/20/05, ep243@aol.com < ep243@aol.com> wrote:
OK, chiming in my tow cents. I lived there about 10 years ago for a  
year and a half. Things may have changed, haven't been back in a while.

Anyway- the bike suggestion is good. There's a road near in the Oude  
West that will take you alongside a stream/river and you will pass an  
old windmill. Nice and relaxing. Another option is to ride out  
towards Amsterdammer Bos in the south. Ask directions, it's been a  
long time fro me. Also in thisof the Oude Westis the  
Westergassfabrik. During the day, it's a cafe (not a coffeehouse) and  
lots of artists hang out there. At night, the vibe becomes a bit more  
hip and back when I was there it turned into a nightclub.

One of the prettiest coffeehouses I came across is called Het  
Groenhuis. There's one near the Heineken Brouwerie and another one  
near the red light district. Nice to stop in and have a cafe verkeerd.


Foodwise- I'm not a big fan of Dutch cooking (and I even have Dutch  
roots), but Amsterdam has a huge base of Suriname and Indonesian  
immigrants. Sample some of both of these while your there. They've  
got NYC beat hands down on these two ethnic cuisines. Stay away from  
the touristy restaurants near the Leidserplein and Rembrantsplein.  
Ask around for recs.

I'll second the recs to visit the Van Gogh and Rijksmuseums. Avoid  
the Torture museum and the sex museum (arggh, I was subjected to  
visiting them with friends who were visiting from the states) unless  
you want to have the truly kitchy theme park experience.

Walk down the the Singlegracht or the Herengracht (can't remember  
which one) to catch the early morning flower market (if you're awake).

Visit Vondelpark.

I know there are some other little hidden gems I am forgetting...


Have a great time.

liz p


-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah Michael <sem247@nyu.edu>
To: ITP Alumni < itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Sent: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 09:18:16 -0700
Subject: Re: Amsterdam

Sorry but I have to chime in and disagree with the warnings about the
Red Light District. Now, I do not suggest going alone, stoned late at

night, but I went in a group during the early evening before it got
too dark and it was fine. Just walk around and take in this other
world. Then get the hell out.

___________________________

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___________________________

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Walker <kevin@exhibitresearch.com
 >
Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 4:45 am
Subject: Re: Amsterdam

 > Second the Van Gogh.  Also the Rijks, right nearby.
 >
 > Hey don't forget to hit the coffeeshop first.  Particularly Grey

 > Area: Oude Leliestraat 2, multiple winner of the "Cannabis Cup".
 > Say
 > hi to John, the owner.  (Or so I've heard.)  Then go over the
 > canal
 > to the place with green stripey awning for excellent homemade

 > apple
 > cake.  Or Puccini Bonboni right down the street - I would say 2nd
 > best chocolates in the world.
 >
 > Then keep munching.  Get your rijsttafel on at Tujuh Maret,
 > Utrechtsestraat 73.  Thai food at Cook Kai: Tweede

 > Rozendwarsstraat 3
 > in the Jordaan.
 >
 > Hartog?s Volkorenbakkerij voted best bakery in 'Dam and I can
 > confirm.  (see
 >
http://www.zibb.nl/food/dossier/asp/portal/0/sctr/0/
 >
dossier/1619/hoofdstuk/5/sortering/False/artikel/914533/bt//index.html)
 > There's a place on Berenstraat or Runstraat in the Jordaan that
 > also

 > is great - they make a wicked sandwich with cream cheese, walnuts
 > and
 > honey.
 >
 > Like Howard said, steer clear of the Red Light District...
 >
 >
 > On 20 Sep 2005, at 11:55, Camilla Beltrami wrote:

 >
 > >
 > > The Van Gogh Musuem is really worth seeing.
 > >
 > > C-
 > > --- eric socolofsky <
eric@transmote.com> wrote:
 > >
 > >
 > >> oh, speaking of museums, that van gogh museum is
 > >> there.  i'm not
 > >> particularly into that era of painting, but seeing

 > >> his paintings in
 > >> person is great.  sooo much depth, literally, some
 > >> of the paintings are
 > >> an inch deep with layered paint.
 > >>
 > >> On Sep 19, 2005, at 10:24 PM, Bob Berger wrote:

 > >>
 > >>
 > >>> Here are a few of my "dam favorites:
 > >>>
 > >>> Nederlands Scheepvaartmuseum: The Netherlands
 > >>>
 > >> Maritime Museum is

 > >>
 > >>> housed in the National Naval Depot, a former
 > >>>
 > >> arsenal of the Dutch Navy
 > >>
 > >>> that is over 300 years old. The unique and superb

 > >>>
 > >> collection tells the
 > >>
 > >>> story of the maritime past of the Netherlands.
 > >>>
 > >>>  One of my favorite places in Amsterdam. Amazing

 > >>>
 > >> museum of Dutch
 > >>
 > >>> Maritime history. Many cool artifacts, ships,
 > >>>
 > >> models and art. My
 > >>
 > >>> specific favorite place in the museum is the

 > >>>
 > >> exhibit about Jaan van
 > >>
 > >>> Speik, a Dutch naval hero who gave the Dutch the
 > >>>
 > >> expression "I'd
 > >>

 > >>> rather blow myself up," primarily used in response
 > >>>
 > >> to dating
 > >>
 > >>> inquiries. Check it out at:
 > >>>
http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/index_ns.htm
 > >>>
 > >>> Hortus Botanicus Amsterdam: One of the oldest
 > >>>
 > >> botanic gardens in the
 > >>
 > >>> world. Today, there are more than 6,000 plants

 > >>>
 > >> (>4,000 species)
 > >>
 > >>> growing in the garden and greenhouses. The Hortus
 > >>>
 > >> is located in the
 > >>
 > >>> Plantage district on the edge of the hectic center
 > >>>
 > >> of Amsterdam.
 > >>
 > >>> Behind the 300-year-old gates, however, the bustle
 > >>>

 > >> of the city seems
 > >>
 > >>> to disappear.
 > >>>
 > >>>  Hortus is cool. Back when the Dutch were
 > >>>
 > >> exploring and colonizing

 > >>
 > >>> they worked very hard to bring back examples of
 > >>>
 > >> plants to cultivate
 > >>
 > >>> and profit from at their other colonies. It was

 > >>>
 > >> hard to get a plant
 > >>
 > >>> from Sumatra to grow in Holland. The ones that
 > >>>
 > >> they successfully
 > >>
 > >>> managed to convey to and grow in Holland were

 > >>>
 > >> spread all over the
 > >>
 > >>> world. Interesting. My personal fave is what I
 > >>>
 > >> like to call "The
 > >>

 > >>> Mother of All Coffee." The first coffee plant
 > >>>
 > >> brought to Europe was
 > >>
 > >>> cloned and is the source for all the coffee that
 > >>>
 > >> we drink. A clone of
 > >>
 > >>> the first plant is at Hortus. If you like the
 > >>>
 > >> coffee, then go visit
 > >>
 > >>> it's ancestor and kowtow to it.

 > >>> http://www.hortus-botanicus.nl/index.asp
 > >>>
 > >>> The Waag Society for Old and New Media: A

 > >>>
 > >> knowledge institute
 > >>
 > >>> operating on the cutting edge of culture and
 > >>>
 > >> technology in relation to
 > >>

 > >>> society, education, government and industry. With
 > >>>
 > >> its knowledge Waag
 > >>
 > >>> Society wishes to make a contribution to the
 > >>>

 > >> design of the information
 > >>
 > >>> society. In this it doesn't let itself be lead by
 > >>>
 > >> technology but
 > >>
 > >>> instead looks at the possibilities of people,

 > >>>
 > >> their creativity and
 > >>
 > >>> culture. The interplay of technology and culture
 > >>>
 > >> is the driving force
 > >>

 > >>> of all Waag Society's activities. The oldest
 > >>>
 > >> secular building of
 > >>
 > >>> Amsterdam has a long and varied history. De Waag
 > >>>

 > >> was built in 1488 as
 > >>
 > >>> a citygate but in the centuries that followed, the
 > >>>
 > >> building
 > >>
 > >>> successively served as a weighhouse, guildhall,

 > >>>
 > >> fire station,
 > >>
 > >>> municipal archives and museum for jewish history.
 > >>>
 > >> The various guilds
 > >>
 > >>> that were housed in the building left behind clear

 > >>>
 > >> traces of their
 > >>
 > >>> occupation. As a result, de Waag contains unique
 > >>>
 > >> examples of
 > >>
 > >>> brick-laying that include work form the master

 > >>>
 > >> examinations of the
 > >>
 > >>> members of the brick-layers guild.
 > >>>
 > >>>  In 1691 the guild of chirurgeons added an
 > >>>

 > >> octagonal domed tower which
 > >>
 > >>> housed the Theatrum Anatomicum. It was here, in
 > >>>
 > >> this theatre that the
 > >>
 > >>> first Northern European public dissections took

 > >>>
 > >> place. Rembrandt was a
 > >>
 > >>> regular visitor and immortalised the practice of
 > >>>
 > >> anatomy in his
 > >>
 > >>> painting 'The Anatomy Lesson of Dr. Tulp'.
 > >>> http://www.waag.org/waagsite/

 > >>>
 > >>>  The only other thing that I can say is walk
 > >>>
 > >> everywhere all the time.
 > >>
 > >>> Amsterdam is beautiful and every neighborhood has

 > >>>
 > >> great stuff to
 > >>
 > >>> discover. I think that the last time I was there I
 > >>>
 > >> must have walked
 > >>
 > >>> about 10 miles a day. My feet were killing me, but

 > >>>
 > >> it's really a
 > >>
 > >>> walking/biking town. Rent a bike! Have a great
 > >>>
 > >> trip!
 > >>
 > >>>
 > >>>  --
 > >>>  Bob Berger
 > >>> www.charlievictorromeo.com

 > >>> http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
 > >>>
berger.cvr@gmail.com
 > >>>
 > >>>  "There comes a time when every man feels the urge

 > >>>
 > >> to spit on his
 > >>
 > >>> hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting
 > >>>
 > >> throats." - H.L.
 > >>
 > >>> Mencken

 > >>>
 > >>> On 9/19/05, Howard Greenstein (public)
 > >>>
 > >> <
public@howardgreenstein.com>
 > >>
 > >>> wrote:
 > >>>
 > >>>> light district alone.
 > >>>> Not that I have much personal experience but one

 > >>>>
 > >> could get mugged or
 > >>
 > >>>> almost mugged until a loud group of americans
 > >>>>
 > >> came by and rescued
 > >>

 > >>>> me....ah...one.
 > >>>>
 > >>>>
 > >>>> HG
 > >>>>
 > >>>> luis alvarez y alvarez wrote:
 > >>>>

 > >>>>
 > >>>>> I am going to Amsterdam for the weekend.
 > >>>>> Your suggestions are appreciated.
 > >>>>> Attending this:
 > >>>>>

 > >>>>>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >
http://culturebase.org/home/struppek/Homepage/urbanscreens.html
 > >
 > >>>>> anyone else from ITP going?
 > >>>>> Luis.
 > >>>>>
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i'm late to reply... but here's more tips:

Definitely check out De Pijp area if you want to avoid all the red- 
light stuff. Amsterdam is much cooler than its tourist scene.  
there's a lot of cute bars and great surinamese restaurants around  
there.

for Coffee Shops, check out the Greenhouse and Katsu (both in De  
Pijp, i think) -- Greenhouse is supposedly the champion of the  
canabis cup every year... and Katsu was my favorite spot to hang out  
when i was there... totally chilled, awesome vibe, good tea, great  
music. also, there's a mushroom shop down the street from Rembrant  
statue in the center of town -- you'll probably see it just walking  
around there.

check out the Albert Cuyp market -- large open market that sells just  
about everything really really cheap... it's an awesome, god-sent  
market. it's on everyday but sundays. down the street from the  
market, there's an awesome dutch pancake shop for breakfast.

in addition to Van Gogh and the Rijks (which draws TONS of people and  
could get really crowded depending on when you go).. there are some  
good galleries to check out: Reflex, De Appel, Waag Society. Also,  
the Stedelijk museum has good modern art collection.

and yes, i agree with renting bikes -- definitely the best way to get  
around.

ann


On Sep 20, 2005, at 1:53 PM, Bob Berger wrote:
The Rijks Museum is under renovations till like 2008 and that means  
that they took the 400 "most popular" paintings (Nightwatch for  
example) and put them on two floors of a wing of the building. That  
is all that is accessible. Sucks because the building itself is so  
cool, as are all of the lesser known parts of the collections. I  
would still recommend going, but it's not the same thing.

-- 
Bob Berger
www.charlievictorromeo.com
http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
berger.cvr@gmail.com

"There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his  
hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

On 9/20/05, Kevin Walker <kevin@exhibitresearch.com > wrote:
Second the Van Gogh. Also the Rijks, right nearby.

Hey don't forget to hit the coffeeshop first. Particularly Grey  
Area: Oude Leliestraat 2, multiple winner of the "Cannabis Cup". Say  
hi to John, the owner. (Or so I've heard.) Then go over the canal  
to the place with green stripey awning for excellent homemade apple  
cake. Or Puccini Bonboni right down the street - I would say 2nd  
best chocolates in the world.

Then keep munching. Get your rijsttafel on at Tujuh Maret,  
Utrechtsestraat 73. Thai food at Cook Kai: Tweede Rozendwarsstraat  
3 in the Jordaan.

Hartog's Volkorenbakkerij voted best bakery in 'Dam and I can  
confirm. (see http://www.zibb.nl/food/dossier/asp/portal/0/sctr/0/ 
dossier/1619/hoofdstuk/5/sortering/False/artikel/914533/bt//index.html)
There's a place on Berenstraat or Runstraat in the Jordaan that also  
is great - they make a wicked sandwich with cream cheese, walnuts and  
honey.

Like Howard said, steer clear of the Red Light District...


On 20 Sep 2005, at 11:55, Camilla Beltrami wrote:


The Van Gogh Musuem is really worth seeing.

C-
--- eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com> wrote:


oh, speaking of museums, that van gogh museum is
there. i'm not
particularly into that era of painting, but seeing
his paintings in
person is great. sooo much depth, literally, some
of the paintings are
an inch deep with layered paint.

On Sep 19, 2005, at 10:24 PM, Bob Berger wrote:


Here are a few of my "dam favorites:

Nederlands Scheepvaartmuseum: The Netherlands

Maritime Museum is

housed in the National Naval Depot, a former

arsenal of the Dutch Navy

that is over 300 years old. The unique and superb

collection tells the 

story of the maritime past of the Netherlands.

One of my favorite places in Amsterdam. Amazing

museum of Dutch

Maritime history. Many cool artifacts, ships,

models and art. My

specific favorite place in the museum is the

exhibit about Jaan van

Speik, a Dutch naval hero who gave the Dutch the

expression "I'd

rather blow myself up," primarily used in response

to dating

inquiries. Check it out at: 
http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/index_ns.htm

Hortus Botanicus Amsterdam: One of the oldest

botanic gardens in the

world. Today, there are more than 6,000 plants

(>4,000 species)

growing in the garden and greenhouses. The Hortus

is located in the

Plantage district on the edge of the hectic center

of Amsterdam.

Behind the 300-year-old gates, however, the bustle

of the city seems

to disappear.

Hortus is cool. Back when the Dutch were

exploring and colonizing

they worked very hard to bring back examples of

plants to cultivate

and profit from at their other colonies. It was

hard to get a plant

from Sumatra to grow in Holland. The ones that

they successfully

managed to convey to and grow in Holland were

spread all over the

world. Interesting. My personal fave is what I

like to call "The

Mother of All Coffee." The first coffee plant

brought to Europe was

cloned and is the source for all the coffee that

we drink. A clone of 

the first plant is at Hortus. If you like the

coffee, then go visit

it's ancestor and kowtow to it.
http://www.hortus-botanicus.nl/index.asp

The Waag Society for Old and New Media: A

knowledge institute

operating on the cutting edge of culture and

technology in relation to

society, education, government and industry. With

its knowledge Waag

Society wishes to make a contribution to the

design of the information

society. In this it doesn't let itself be lead by

technology but

instead looks at the possibilities of people,

their creativity and

culture. The interplay of technology and culture

is the driving force

of all Waag Society's activities. The oldest

secular building of

Amsterdam has a long and varied history. De Waag

was built in 1488 as

a citygate but in the centuries that followed, the

building

successively served as a weighhouse, guildhall,

fire station,

municipal archives and museum for jewish history.

The various guilds

that were housed in the building left behind clear

traces of their

occupation. As a result, de Waag contains unique

examples of

brick-laying that include work form the master

examinations of the

members of the brick-layers guild.

In 1691 the guild of chirurgeons added an

octagonal domed tower which

housed the Theatrum Anatomicum. It was here, in

this theatre that the

first Northern European public dissections took

place. Rembrandt was a

regular visitor and immortalised the practice of

anatomy in his

painting 'The Anatomy Lesson of Dr. Tulp'. 
http://www.waag.org/waagsite/

The only other thing that I can say is walk

everywhere all the time.

Amsterdam is beautiful and every neighborhood has

great stuff to

discover. I think that the last time I was there I

must have walked

about 10 miles a day. My feet were killing me, but

it's really a

walking/biking town. Rent a bike! Have a great

trip!


--
Bob Berger
www.charlievictorromeo.com
http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
berger.cvr@gmail.com

"There comes a time when every man feels the urge

to spit on his

hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting

throats." - H.L.

Mencken

On 9/19/05, Howard Greenstein (public)

<public@howardgreenstein.com>

wrote:

light district alone.
Not that I have much personal experience but one

could get mugged or

almost mugged until a loud group of americans

came by and rescued

me....ah...one.


HG

luis alvarez y alvarez wrote:


I am going to Amsterdam for the weekend.
Your suggestions are appreciated.
Attending this:




http://culturebase.org/home/struppek/Homepage/urbanscreens.html

anyone else from ITP going?
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Date: September 21, 2005 8:33:26 AM EDT
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Hi Luis,
I will be there, speaking on day one.

Raina

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From: "j.m parada" <parada_jm@yahoo.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 10:51:57 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: incorporate on dot coms
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Mighty List,

Can anyone recommend a reputable incorporation site
(where you can incorporate for a couple hundred $$ or
so). Any good/bad experiences?

Any information is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Juan

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From: | maria | <new@thatproject.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 10:09:40 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: incorporate on dot coms
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Hi,

I did it with http://www.directincorporation.com/

Because they make a free name check beforehand and then I just  
decided to go with them. The prices  were competitive. I used the  
premium package out of the convenience of getting the corp.  
stationary and the seal from them. I paid all together with the NY  
state filing fee (which in in NY 250) 495 bucks for the whole inc.  
but that included premium processing 70 in addition to the filing fee  
that I paid to do it all in one week.

But honestly... it is so little they actually do for you ( I bet all  
online services) that I would do it myself next time. They just file  
a form that you can buy at staples and send it in for you, you don't  
even have to sign it to announce the incorporation. And for the rest,  
they send you half filled in forms that you have to complete yourself  
anyway. It is not that they gave me much advice. Later then they send  
you a CD with all kind of useful info about doing business, etc.
BUT: Probably the best is to ask your accountant which way to go best  
and then do it yourself.

I also read the book "Inc. Yourself."

If you have more questions, let me  know.

BTW, the not sure if you are interested, someone asked this question  
before. I went 'bank shopping' and Commerce Bank for business was the  
best I could find. No fee for the account, no minimum balance ,  
cheaper wire transfers, 300 transactions free per month. And you get  
a banking card, which I know HSBC doesn't do for business accounts.  
Besides, they are open till 8 almost every day... I like that.

Best

m.


On Sep 20, 2005, at 10:51 PM, j.m parada wrote:

> Mighty List,
>
> Can anyone recommend a reputable incorporation site
> (where you can incorporate for a couple hundred $$ or
> so). Any good/bad experiences?
>
> Any information is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Juan
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From: r k <raina_post@yahoo.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 8:28:48 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Best emergency clinics in new york?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hey peoples,

I think I did something to my foot yesterday while
playing soccer. The thought of the beth israel waiting
room really makes my foot hurt more and i have to
catch a flight today - can anyone recommend some place
that has less wait time and happens to take blue cross
insurance?

owwies,

raina


		
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From: Marianne Petit <marianne.petit@nyu.edu>
Date: September 21, 2005 8:31:39 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Best emergency clinics in new york?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Beth Israel actually has an urgent care unit that is really good.I  
was there two weeks ago with a friend.After a 20 minute wait for  
the triage nurse in the emergency room which was really horrible, we  
were walked over to the urgent care unit, immediately given a bed and  
attention and it was fantastic.

New York Downtown Hospital used to have a good (and fast) emergency  
room. I don't know what it's like now.


On Sep 21, 2005, at 8:28 AM, r k wrote:
Hey peoples,

I think I did something to my foot yesterday while
playing soccer. The thought of the beth israel waiting
room really makes my foot hurt more and i have to
catch a flight today - can anyone recommend some place
that has less wait time and happens to take blue cross
insurance?

owwies,

raina


		
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From: | maria | <new@thatproject.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 10:20:26 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Best emergency clinics in new york?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I know that the Bellvue Hospital has an excellent trauma station. Two  
friends of mine work there as, er doctors and they tell me that they  
are best equipped in the city if you had a bad accident. But that's  
probably not what you need. Not sure about the waiting time... but  
you should actually really go to a regular doctor, because you  
already waited a whole night and it is not life threatening I assume  
and it isn't a weekend, so why go to the ER? It will be tripled the  
price and less thorough care and you wait cause you are their least  
priority.
That's my five cents.

all the best!

m.


Hey peoples,

I think I did something to my foot yesterday while
playing soccer. The thought of the beth israel waiting
room really makes my foot hurt more and i have to
catch a flight today - can anyone recommend some place
that has less wait time and happens to take blue cross
insurance?

owwies,

raina
From: itp_alum@yangster.com
Date: September 21, 2005 10:50:32 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Scanner recommendation?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hi,

I need a scanner that can scan 11x17.
What is a good one that's out there?

thanks,
cindy


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From: "Howard Greenstein (public)" <public@howardgreenstein.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 5:09:45 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: [Fwd: FW: Katrina 800]
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hi all, please read the wiki and help if you can in any way.  http:// 
www.katrina800.org/

Howard


This is the evolution of the note I sent yesterday.

This is a system to help the 1mm people who can't get through to the
governement get some answers, and potentially someone to talk with.

Could we get 10 people who would agree to be 'test call answerers'  
starting
later on today. It doesn't matter how many hours per week - 2 or 20  
-  you
can do this - just list your name, email and what times you'd be  
available
to do this.

You won't know the answers to the questions, but we'll be gathering  
what the
questions are and passing them to people to get answers.  This page
http://www.fema.gov/rrr/dafaq.shtm#1 also will have some answers.


Send me:

your name, email and what times you'd be available to do this.

Thanks,

HG









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From: "Howard Greenstein (public)" <public@howardgreenstein.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 11:05:42 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: FW: Katrina 800]
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I realize this may have come across too disjointed, since the  
original note didn't make the list.

THis is an open-source 'call center 311' effort to give people  
affected by Katrina a place to call and find someone to answer,  
potentially surf the web for them and get them answers. The Red Cross  
and FEMA apparently can't answer the volume of calls and there are  
insufficient PCs and fax machines in shelters.
Additionaly, you may be a human to which they can talk to for a few  
minutes, instead of officials and others in the same situation.

See the website or join the Yahoo Group "Project800CallVolunteers"

Pass it on.

Howard


Howard Greenstein (public) wrote:

> Hi all, please read the wiki and help if you can in any way.   
> http://www.katrina800.org/
>
> Howard
>
>
> This is the evolution of the note I sent yesterday.
>
> This is a system to help the 1mm people who can't get through to the
> governement get some answers, and potentially someone to talk with.
>
> Could we get 10 people who would agree to be 'test call answerers'  
> starting
> later on today. It doesn't matter how many hours per week - 2 or 20  
> -  you
> can do this - just list your name, email and what times you'd be  
> available
> to do this.
>
> You won't know the answers to the questions, but we'll be gathering  
> what the
> questions are and passing them to people to get answers.  This page
> http://www.fema.gov/rrr/dafaq.shtm#1 also will have some answers.
>
>
> Send me:
>
> your name, email and what times you'd be available to do this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> HG
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Emily Conrad <ec711@nyu.edu>
Date: September 20, 2005 10:51:52 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: t-shirts for silkscreening?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


Anyone have any ideas for which shirts to use?
Need to make about 100 or so silk screened shirts,
and I'd rather not use American Apparel.

thx,
emily


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From: Shawn Van Every <itp-alumni@walking-productions.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 11:15:22 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: t-shirts for silkscreening?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Try: http://www.friedmansactivewear.com/

On Sep 20, 2005, at 10:51 PM, Emily Conrad wrote:

>
> Anyone have any ideas for which shirts to use?
> Need to make about 100 or so silk screened shirts,
> and I'd rather not use American Apparel.
>
> thx,
> emily
>
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From: Robert Brown <robertbrown@nyc.rr.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 10:54:51 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: t-shirts for silkscreening?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I chose the Hanes pre-washed beefy t-tshirts from Custom Ink for my  
family reunion shirts and they did a good job. Once they got the  
design it took them about 2 weeks to ship the shirts.  Although I  
can't take credit for finding them because someone else on the list  
had used them and gotten good results also.

http://customink.com/

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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: t-shirts for silkscreening?


> Try: http://www.friedmansactivewear.com/
>
> On Sep 20, 2005, at 10:51 PM, Emily Conrad wrote:
>
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas for which shirts to use?
>> Need to make about 100 or so silk screened shirts,
>> and I'd rather not use American Apparel.
>>
>> thx,
>> emily
>>
>>
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From: morry <murray.baloney@gmail.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 12:00:08 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: t-shirts for silkscreening?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

There are several alternatives to American Appparel (AA) that my
customers buy from me.

If you are looking for something more styled/fashionable like AA I
usually recommend Bella and Canvas (men/women respectively) and AS
Tees as the two primarly alternatives.  There are other alterenatives
including some of the big manufacturers and some eco/natural lines
that I carry as well.

If you are looking for unisex or standard tees there are many options
such as Hanes, Fruit of the Loom, Champion, Gildan, Anvil, Jerzees and
many others.

If you want give me a call and I would be happy to give you some ideas
or you can check some of my items here,
http://www.thecorporatechoice.com/?SiteID=154030

Morry

On 9/21/05, Robert Brown <robertbrown@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> I chose the Hanes pre-washed beefy t-tshirts from Custom Ink for my  
> family
> reunion shirts and they did a good job. Once they got the design it  
> took
> them about 2 weeks to ship the shirts.  Although I can't take  
> credit for
> finding them because someone else on the list had used them and  
> gotten good
> results also.
>
> http://customink.com/
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> ---------------------------------------
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> To: "ITP Alumni" <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 11:15 PM
> Subject: Re: t-shirts for silkscreening?
>
>
>> Try: http://www.friedmansactivewear.com/
>>
>> On Sep 20, 2005, at 10:51 PM, Emily Conrad wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Anyone have any ideas for which shirts to use?
>>> Need to make about 100 or so silk screened shirts,
>>> and I'd rather not use American Apparel.
>>>
>>> thx,
>>> emily
>>>
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From: Jonah Brucker-Cohen <jonah@coin-operated.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 1:10:41 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: FWD: Looking for Studio Space
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

This from a digital artist/friend of mine currently looking for  
studio space.. Please respond to him if you know of anything...

------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
---------------

Looking for Studio:

I am looking for a studio to work in. A little about me, I am  
generally a computer based artist, though i am about to undertake a  
project that includes more traditional materials/processes.   The  
studio could be a proper art studio, or it could be a desk/work area  
in an office of designers/programmers/architects/etc.

My working process is similar to a graphic designer/web developer,  
but my interests are in line with contemporary art.  You can see more  
of my work at http://mandiberg.com .  ideally, i am looking for a  
situation where i can leave my equipment, so a lockable room is a  
goal, though i am willing to compromise on a shared space, and leave  
some of my equip in a toolbox, and bring my laptop in and out.

I am looking for a shared/semi/private studio situation.  on the  
proper-art-studio side, I do not want to work in an oil painting  
studio, or a sculpture/woodshop, b/c of my equip + the dust/noise/ 
fumes.  On the desk/work area in an office side, I dont want to be in  
a cubicle/business casual environment; i dress nice, just not that  
way.  I would use the space approx 3 weekdays per week, as well as  
weeknights/weekends.

I am looking for a smaller space, 100-200 sq ft.  My max price is  
$400, though i would much prefer to stay lower than that.  I need the  
space to have WiFi/Internet, and grounded power outlets.  Windows are  
nice.

I am also interested in finding other people in the same boat, and  
maybe looking to find a space to share together.

If you have such a space, or know of someone who does, let me know.

best,

Michael Mandiberg
Michael@Mandiberg.com
917 572 2488

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From: phoebe <phoebe@nyu.edu>
Date: September 21, 2005 12:54:44 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: ISO experienced Backend developer
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


You'll be working with a small team on a small-to-mid-sized project  
to develop a custom content management system for a site that's  
hoping to launch early in the Winter. Please email me off-list for  
details. Feel free to pass it onto others who might be interested.

-p


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From: "James G. Robinson" <james@akazelig.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 1:13:21 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: ISO experienced Backend developer
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hey Phoebe,

I might be interested. I've got experience developing organizational  
systems for large text-based archives, such as BaseballLibrary.com --  
which has over 20,000 pages, managed by a CMS that I designed and  
built myself. You can check out my resume at

http://www.akazelig.com/james-resume.pdf

If it seems like I might be a good fit, let me know.

Cheers James

[aka]

James G. Robinson
Text and Technology
http://akazelig.com/

phoebe wrote:
> You'll be working with a small team on a small-to-mid-sized project  
> to develop a custom content management system for a site that's  
> hoping to launch early in the Winter. Please email me off-list for  
> details. Feel free to pass it onto others who might be interested.
> -p
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From: "James G. Robinson" <james@akazelig.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 1:14:45 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: ISO experienced Backend developer
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Whoopsie ... anyone else hiring? :)

Cheers J

[aka]

James G. Robinson
Text and Technology
http://akazelig.com/

James G. Robinson wrote:
> Hey Phoebe,
> I might be interested. I've got experience developing  
> organizational systems for large text-based archives, such as  
> BaseballLibrary.com -- which has over 20,000 pages, managed by a  
> CMS that I designed and built myself. You can check out my resume at
> http://www.akazelig.com/james-resume.pdf
> If it seems like I might be a good fit, let me know.
> Cheers James
> [aka]
> James G. Robinson
> Text and Technology
> http://akazelig.com/
> phoebe wrote:
>>
>> You'll be working with a small team on a small-to-mid-sized  
>> project to develop a custom content management system for a site  
>> that's hoping to launch early in the Winter. Please email me off- 
>> list for details. Feel free to pass it onto others who might be  
>> interested.
>>
>> -p
>>
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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 1:40:37 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: ancient roman villa discovered with google earth
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4267238.stm


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From: betsy seder <betsyseder@yahoo.com>
Date: September 19, 2005 6:57:16 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Sites with sound
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Can anyone point me to to sites (promotional or ecommerce) that have  
sound
that can be turned on and off?

Thanks.

-betsy


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From: Eric Nadler <eric@simonmillworks.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 2:58:31 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: Sites with sound
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

we've worked on a few:
www.originalswedishfish.com
www.chiclets.com
www.sourpatchkids.com


ESN



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> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 6:57 PM
> To: ITP Alumni
> Subject: Sites with sound
>
> Can anyone point me to to sites (promotional or ecommerce)
> that have sound that can be turned on and off?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -betsy
>
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From: Midori Yasuda <midori.yasuda@nyu.edu>
Date: September 21, 2005 3:00:06 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RandomAccessMemory.org 2 / Defibrillator Thursday evenings
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


Each Thursday until the show closes on October 23, MESH's  
RandomAccessMemory.org 2  and sand_box's Defibrillator will be open  
evenings from 7pm until 10pm, beginning this Thursday, Sept. 22.
We'll have some drinks and perhaps a performance or two.

On Tuesday, October 4 we are giving a talk at 7pm.
There will be a closing reception too, on Sunday, October 23rd, from  
4-7pm.

Morsel Gallery (http://morselgallery.com/ ) is at
81A Olive Street (http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=81+Olive+St, 
+Brooklyn,+NY ) .
Take the L train to Graham Ave, walk 1 block east on Metropolitan  
past "White Castle" across Bushwick Ave. Bear left onto Orient Ave,  
and take a left at the very next block, Olive St. Morsel is right  
there, across from Cooper Park. This is about a 4-minute walk.
The gallery is typically open weekends only, 12-6pm or by appointment.

We hope to see you there.
Best regards,
Eric Liftin



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From: Gloria Sed <gloria.sed@nyu.edu>
Date: September 21, 2005 7:57:08 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Cc: ITP Students <itp-students@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: URGENT babysiting today
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Is anyone up right now? I need someone to watch my baby so that I can  
work today. Is anyone home today that can help me out. Call me  
917-238-0945!

-Gloria



Gloria Sed
Administrative Secretary
ITP - Interactive Telecommunications Program
TSOA / NYU

212-998-1881
gloria.sed@nyu.edu


From: "Howard Greenstein (public)" <public@howardgreenstein.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 3:17:51 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: URGENT babysiting today
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Gloria, for future, NYU has some 'backup child care' services http:// 
www.nyu.edu/hr/worklife/chldcare.html

Gloria Sed wrote:

> Is anyone up right now? I need someone to watch my baby so that I  
> can work today. Is anyone home today that can help me out. Call me  
> 917-238-0945!
>
> -Gloria
>
>
>
> *Gloria Sed*
> Administrative Secretary
> ITP - Interactive Telecommunications Program
> TSOA / NYU
>
> 212-998-1881
> gloria.sed@nyu.edu
>
>

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From: Maia Marinelli <maiaitp@maiamarinelli.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 4:37:02 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: borrow Handheld GPS
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Any one have a handheld GPS that I can borrow for a 10 days...


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From: Midori Yasuda <midori.yasuda@nyu.edu>
Date: September 21, 2005 6:26:24 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Danny Rozin at bitforms gallery
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>



My new exhibition at bitforms gallery opened Sep 15th
( http://www.bitforms.com    529 20th st. )

In the show are a few new pieces and pieces that you may have seen in  
progress at ITP, now completed and meticulously presented....

  The show will run till Oct 15th, so I encourage you to come and see  
the work when it is quieter.

Best regards. Danny.




--------------------------------------
Daniel Rozin
Resident Artist, Visiting Art Professor
Interactive Telecommunications Program
Tisch School of the Arts
New York University
721 Broadway
New York NY 10003
Phone (212) 998 1883
Fax (212) 998 1898
http://www.itp.nyu.edu/danny




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From: Midori Yasuda <midori.yasuda@nyu.edu>
Date: September 21, 2005 6:40:37 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: JOB: Graphic Designer and Animator, Computers for Youth
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>



COMPUTERS FOR YOUTH

Job Title: Graphic Designer and Animator
Deadline for Applications: September 28th, 2005
Start Date: Mid-October

Computers for Youth (www.cfy.org) is seeking to hire a creative  
individual to fill the position of "Graphic Designer and Animator"  
This position is part-time (15-20 hours per week) and temporary (3-7  
months). The rate of pay for the position ranges from $20-40 / hour,  
depending upon experience. The successful candidate will work  
primarily at his or her own location but will meet on a biweekly  
basis with CFY project staff at CFY's mid-town Manhattan office.

Organizational Description: Computers for Youth (CFY) is a NYC-based  
non-profit organization that provides home computers to underserved  
children and families and offers a range of services to help them use  
the technology to improve their quality of life and enhance learning  
opportunities in their homes.

Job Description: CFY's Graphic Designer and Animator will work with  
CFY project staff to:

1. Help conceptualize and design an interactive, computer-based  
"Encourager" application that motivates and teaches middle school  
students to use select computer programs in ways that will help them  
succeed academically.
2. Create original artwork and animations.
3. Integrate sound, graphic and animation content into an application  
that is engaging and instructive to children aged 11-13.
4. Communicate regularly with project staff-electronically and in  
person.
5. Conduct usability tests on the application at various points  
during the design process.
6. Revise and redesign aspects of the "Encourager"application as needed.

Job Requirements:

n Expertise creating animations in Macromedia Flash (including  
Actionscripting) and graphics in Adobe Photoshop and/or Illustrator.
n Proficiency with various audio formats (.mp3,  
aac .mp4, .wav, .wma, .oog, .midi., etc)
n College education or comparable experience.
n Good work habits: Punctuality, consistency, and commitment to  
excellence.
n Good interpersonal and communication skills.
n Ability to work well independently.
n Interest in education, computing, and public service.
n Familiarity with under-served populations, experience with  
Macromedia Director, and project management experience are preferred  
but not required.

To Apply: Mail, fax, or e-mail the following to R. Ghan:
(1) Letter of interest
(2) Resume
(3) Link to on-line portfolio or digital work samples.

 Fax: (212) 563.1215
 E-mail: rghan@cfy.org
 Mail: Computers for Youth; 505 8th Ave., Suite #2402, NYC 10018  
Attn: R. Ghan.

CFY will contact promising candidates. Resumes must be received by  
September 28th, 2005.

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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Mac McKean <mac@heaventree.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 7:29:41 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: seeking video documentary maker in baton rouge
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hi, I have a project in which I need a video doc person *in Baton  
Rouge* or environs to make a few short documentary pieces (3-4)  
minutes each.  We have the subject matter defined but there is some  
freedom to operate within it--this is, of course, pertaining to  
Hurricane Katrina and the aftermath.

Pay is $300 for doing the project + an additional $100 for each  
individual little documentary that we use (and our intention would be  
to use all the ones made).

I can give you more details, but, please, seeking someone based in  
Baton Rouge area.

Contact me at mac@heaventree.com if this is you and you are  
interested...

PS. I have some feelers out through other avenues so will take first  
person that meets what we need.

Thanks,
Mac


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From: "antjes@gmail.com" <antjes@gmail.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 9:18:44 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Sublet available for month of October ($900)
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Sublet available for month of October $900 - studio w/ extra bedroom
looking out to Prospect Park

everything included except phone, October 1st-31st. enddate somewhat  
flexible

Very nice studio with small extra bedroom, looking out to Prospect Park,
fully furnished, bright, clean, hardwood floors, AC, high speed  
internet,
3 subway lines steps away (Q, B, S), 15 minutes to Canal or Grand St.,
20 minutes to Union Square or West 4th, laundry, shopping, etc. on the
block. Perfect for people who like to run, roller blade or ride their
bicycle in the park.
Caribbean neighborhood, might seem a bit rough at first sight but is
totally safe.
Here is some info about the neighborhood:
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0413/pareles.php

Please contact me at antje@nyu.edu or 646.239.7792

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From: Gloria Sed <gloria.sed@nyu.edu>
Date: September 21, 2005 9:23:38 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Need babysitter Thursday
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I need someone to babysit my 2.5 month old tomorrow and possibly friday.
If you are available 8-5:30 please call me 917-238-0945.

Thanks!

gloria


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From: itp_alum@yangster.com
Date: September 21, 2005 10:08:37 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Fwd: Museum of the Moving Image positions available
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Museum of the Moving Image
Two Positions Available

Museum Educator
The Museum seeks well-spoken and outgoing individuals, who enjoy working
with adolescents, to join our education department. Museum Educators  
work
between 8-20 hours per week from Tuesday to Friday, mornings and
afternoons, as well as occasional weekend hours. Hours are flexible, and
may vary from week to week.
Museum Educators report to the Education Program Coordinators and  
have the
following responsibilities:
Deliver education programs to student groups of all needs and abilities,
grades 4 through college;
Provide gallery talks and demonstrations to the general public;
Supervise birthday parties for children held at the Museum;
Assist with teaching and other administrative tasks as assigned by
supervisor;
Attend monthly meetings of the Education Department.
Qualifications:
Undergraduate degree in film, media studies, history, education, or
related field required.
Working knowledge of film/video production, animation, or digital media
production a plus.
Graduate work and background in formal or informal education strongly
preferred.

To apply for this position, please mail cover letter and resume to:
Museum Educator Search
Museum of the Moving Image
35 Avenue at 36 Street
Astoria, NY 11106
No faxes or phone calls please.



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From: Diane Bertolo <diane@panix.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 10:46:54 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Filemaker database person?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


Hi list,

My partner needs someone with Filemaker knowledge to take a look at  
some issues with their database.... they are having timeout errors  
doing some searches. Database designer (who now works elsewhere) says  
it may have to do with the XSLT code.

My partner's company would like to get someone in to figure this out.  
Does anyone here do that? Or can you recommend someone? Please email  
me off-list.

thanks,
/d



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From: Michelle Kempner <guarana63@gmail.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 12:09:55 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: fun restaurants for a group
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

anyone have any recommendations for a fun restaurant for a group of 10
or 12 people?

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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 11:04:01 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: fun restaurants for a group
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

xunta.  tapas.  1st av b/w 9th and 10th.  i think.
yummmmy

On Sep 21, 2005, at 12:09 AM, Michelle Kempner wrote:

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> or 12 people?
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From: jon marcel <jon@kinephoria.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 11:05:41 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: fun restaurants for a group
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

here here!

also, if u want a little more trendy/upscale:
Pipa. also tapas (get the calamari it's unreal). 19th st. btw  
broadway and
park.



> xunta.  tapas.  1st av b/w 9th and 10th.  i think.
> yummmmy
>
> On Sep 21, 2005, at 12:09 AM, Michelle Kempner wrote:
>
>> anyone have any recommendations for a fun restaurant for a group  
>> of 10
>> or 12 people?
>>
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From: Michael Sharon <michael.sharon@nyu.edu>
Date: September 21, 2005 11:36:36 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: fun restaurants for a group
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> anyone have any recommendations for a fun restaurant for a group of 10
> or 12 people?

congee village! super tasty chinese food with fairly little MSG...  
faux bamboo decor, karaoke rooms and the cheapest cocktails in town (~ 
$3 a drink)... it's on allen + delancey.. not that close to the rest  
of chinatown but very very close to the LES.

-m


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From: lia bulaong <lia@bulaong.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 12:40:20 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: fun restaurants for a group
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Second the recommendation, I love Congee Village. The place is so ugly
it's beautiful, just like your mom.

They just opened a new branch on Bowery within the last few weeks,
between Rivington & Spring. Walked past it the other night, the bar is
bigger and the wait shouldn't be as long as at the old place, although
if you make reservations there you should be fine.

Michael Sharon wrote:
> congee village! super tasty chinese food with fairly little MSG...
> faux bamboo decor, karaoke rooms and the cheapest cocktails in town
> (~$3 a drink)... it's on allen + delancey.. not that close to the
> rest of chinatown but very very close to the LES.

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From: Kuan Huang <hawk.huang@nyu.edu>
Date: September 21, 2005 12:47:05 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: fun restaurants for a group
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Congee Village is a very good chinese restaurant which has the pretty
authentic food. And it's also not expensive.

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From: lia bulaong <lia@bulaong.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:40 am
Subject: Re: fun restaurants for a group

> Second the recommendation, I love Congee Village. The place is so
ugly
> it's beautiful, just like your mom.
>
> They just opened a new branch on Bowery within the last few weeks,
> between Rivington & Spring. Walked past it the other night, the
> bar is
> bigger and the wait shouldn't be as long as at the old place,
although
> if you make reservations there you should be fine.
>
> Michael Sharon wrote:
>> congee village! super tasty chinese food with fairly little MSG...
>> faux bamboo decor, karaoke rooms and the cheapest cocktails in town
>> (~$3 a drink)... it's on allen + delancey.. not that close to the
>> rest of chinatown but very very close to the LES.
>
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From: jonathan goldstein <jg956@nyu.edu>
Date: September 21, 2005 11:18:25 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: fun restaurants for a group
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Sun Golden Island restaurant in Chinatown. Very authentic Cantonese  
food.
Yummy. Big round tables. Not dirt cheap, but it's good, especially
seafood.

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From: miriam songster <itplist@songster.net>
Date: September 21, 2005 11:03:18 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: digital projector
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I need a digital projector for a week, starting in mid-October. Does  
anyone have recommendations for a relatively inexpensive rental?

-m


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From: | maria | <new@thatproject.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 1:47:28 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: digital projector
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

try Andrew, he is ITP family, maybe you get a discount.

http://www.milmoe.com/projectorrental.htm

m.


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> Does anyone have recommendations for a relatively inexpensive rental?
>
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From: jonathan goldstein <jg956@nyu.edu>
Date: September 22, 2005 9:53:17 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: digital projector
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I've got one too. And always a low, low, special ITP family rate at  
Jonny
Goldstein's House O' Projectors.

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From: melissa gajarsa <melizma@gmail.com>
Date: September 22, 2005 11:33:30 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: JOB: Associate editor, web content
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Educational and reference publisher seeks web-savvy editor with some  
experience for production/editorial work maintaining award-winning  
online subscription databases. (www.facts.com and  
factsforlearning.com) If you go to www.facts.com you can see an  
overview of the product.

Requirements: strong nonfiction writing/research skills, keen  
attention to detail, HTML/XML, Photoshop, outstanding organizational  
skills.

Responsibilities include preparing print content for online delivery,  
writing, editing, illustrating, trafficking, and proofing/quality  
checking educational content.

Location: Midtown (on 7th Ave between 37th/38th).
Compensation: Salary and benefits package (medical, dental, vision).  
State salary requirements in cover letter.

Send resume and cover letter to jobs@facts.com or you can email me  
off the list


		
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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Alexandra Sherman  
<alexsherman@nyu.edu>
Date: September 22, 2005 12:09:43 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: setting linked window size in Flash...?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

hey all-

if you have a sec, i'm wondering if anyone knows...
i'm linking to a separate page from a MC in flash using getURL.
simple enough, but i want the window to open at a certain size.  how  
do i tell flash to do this?

i've got the basic:
on (release) {	
	getURL("http://www.yadayada.html","_blank");
}

but don't know how to set size...

alternatively i feel i could set the window to open itself in a  
certain size in javascript, but i only know how to do
that from  the linking page, not the window itself.

i.e. <a href="page.html" onClick="window.open('page.html', 'page',
'status,resizable=yes,scrollbars=no,width=100,height=100', '');  
return false"> This link opens a new 100x100
window</a>

any thoughts on either way to accomplish this would be greatly  
appreciated (w/in flash preferred). my
documentation sux...
many thanks in advance!

alex


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From: i r e n a <voidit@verizon.net>
Date: September 22, 2005 9:03:20 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: setting linked window size in Flash...?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

getURL("javaScript:window.open('url', 'name', 'width=320, heght=240')");
-- i.


Alexandra Sherman wrote:
hey all-

if you have a sec, i'm wondering if anyone knows...
i'm linking to a separate page from a MC in flash using getURL.
simple enough, but i want the window to open at a certain size.  how  
do i tell flash to do this?

i've got the basic:
on (release) {	
	getURL("http://www.yadayada.html","_blank");
}

but don't know how to set size...

alternatively i feel i could set the window to open itself in a  
certain size in javascript, but i only know how to do
that from  the linking page, not the window itself.

i.e. <a href="page.html" onClick="window.open('page.html', 'page',
'status,resizable=yes,scrollbars=no,width=100,height=100', '');  
return false"> This link opens a new 100x100
window</a>

any thoughts on either way to accomplish this would be greatly  
appreciated (w/in flash preferred). my
documentation sux...
many thanks in advance!

alex


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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 22, 2005 11:27:03 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: setting linked window size in Flash...?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

yep, what irena said.

and if you want an even quicker answer, try posting your questions to  
the itp-flash list....
http://forums.nyu.edu
join:itp-flash

On Sep 22, 2005, at 9:03 AM, i r e n a wrote:

> getURL("javaScript:window.open('url', 'name', 'width=320,  
> heght=240')");
> -- i.
>
>
>  Alexandra Sherman wrote:hey all-
>>
>> if you have a sec, i'm wondering if anyone knows...
>> i'm linking to a separate page from a MC in flash using getURL.
>> simple enough, but i want the window to open at a certain size.   
>> how do i tell flash to do this?
>>
>> i've got the basic:
>> on (release) {
>>         getURL("http://www.yadayada.html","_blank");
>> }
>>
>> but don't know how to set size...
>>
>> alternatively i feel i could set the window to open itself in a  
>> certain size in javascript, but i only know how to do
>> that from  the linking page, not the window itself.
>>
>> i.e. <a href="page.html" onClick="window.open('page.html', 'page',
>> 'status,resizable=yes,scrollbars=no,width=100,height=100', '');  
>> return false"> This link opens a new 100x100
>> window</a>
>>
>> any thoughts on either way to accomplish this would be greatly  
>> appreciated (w/in flash preferred). my
>> documentation sux...
>> many thanks in advance!
>>
>> alex
>>
>>
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Date: September 22, 2005 11:30:51 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: setting linked window size in Flash...?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

alexandra

for the javascript to work, you also need to include this

<script language="JavaScript">
  <!--
  function spawnWindow(URL,Name,features) {
  window.open(URL,Name,features);
  }
  //-->
</script>

between <head> and body of the html page that has your flash file in it

On Sep 22, 2005, at 12:27 PM, eric socolofsky wrote:
yep, what irena said.

and if you want an even quicker answer, try posting your questions to  
the itp-flash list....
http://forums.nyu.edu
join:itp-flash

On Sep 22, 2005, at 9:03 AM, i r e n a wrote:


getURL("javaScript:window.open('url', 'name', 'width=320, heght=240')");
-- i.


  Alexandra Sherman wrote:hey all-


if you have a sec, i'm wondering if anyone knows...
i'm linking to a separate page from a MC in flash using getURL.
simple enough, but i want the window to open at a certain size.  how  
do i tell flash to do this?

i've got the basic:
on (release) {
         getURL("http://www.yadayada.html","_blank");
}

but don't know how to set size...

alternatively i feel i could set the window to open itself in a  
certain size in javascript, but i only know how to do
that from  the linking page, not the window itself.

i.e. <a href="page.html" onClick="window.open('page.html', 'page',
'status,resizable=yes,scrollbars=no,width=100,height=100', '');  
return false"> This link opens a new 100x100
window</a>

any thoughts on either way to accomplish this would be greatly  
appreciated (w/in flash preferred). my
documentation sux...
many thanks in advance!

alex


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From: Alexandra Sherman <alexsherman@nyu.edu>
Date: September 22, 2005 12:08:55 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: setting linked window size in Flash...?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

thanks all- you rock.


----- Original Message -----
From: Liana Brazil <liana@uberdevices.com>
Date: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:30 am
Subject: Re: setting linked window size in Flash...?

> alexandra
>
> for the javascript to work, you also need to include this
>
> <script language="JavaScript">
>     <!--
>     function spawnWindow(URL,Name,features) {
>     window.open(URL,Name,features);
>     }
>     //-->
> </script>
>
> between <head> and body of the html page that has your flash file
> in it
>
> On Sep 22, 2005, at 12:27 PM, eric socolofsky wrote:
>
>> yep, what irena said.
>>
>> and if you want an even quicker answer, try posting your
> questions
>> to the itp-flash list....
>> http://forums.nyu.edu
>> join:itp-flash
>>
>> On Sep 22, 2005, at 9:03 AM, i r e n a wrote:
>>
>>
>>> getURL("javaScript:window.open('url', 'name', 'width=320,
>>> heght=240')");
>>> -- i.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Alexandra Sherman wrote:hey all-
>>>
>>>>
>>>> if you have a sec, i'm wondering if anyone knows...
>>>> i'm linking to a separate page from a MC in flash using getURL.
>>>> simple enough, but i want the window to open at a certain size.
>
>>>> how do i tell flash to do this?
>>>>
>>>> i've got the basic:
>>>> on (release) {
>>>>         getURL("http://www.yadayada.html","_blank");
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> but don't know how to set size...
>>>>
>>>> alternatively i feel i could set the window to open itself in a
>
>>>> certain size in javascript, but i only know how to do
>>>> that from  the linking page, not the window itself.
>>>>
>>>> i.e. >>>
> 'status,resizable=yes,scrollbars=no,width=100,height=100', '');
>>>> return false"> This link opens a new 100x100
>>>> window
>>>>
>>>> any thoughts on either way to accomplish this would be greatly
>>>> appreciated (w/in flash preferred). my
>>>> documentation sux...
>>>> many thanks in advance!
>>>>
>>>> alex
>>>>
>>>>
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From: Eric Forman <itp@ericforman.com>
Date: September 22, 2005 12:12:27 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: setting linked window size in Flash...?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

you can also put all the JS inside Flash, avoiding the need for  
external HTML:

on (release) {
getURL ("javascript:NewWindow=window.open 
('PoppedUpWindow.html','newWin','width=400,height=300,left=0,top=0,
toolbar=No,location=No,scrollbars=No,status=No,resizable=No,fullscreen=N 
o');  NewWindow.focus();
void(0);");
}

eric, sorry to not post to your wonderful flash list

On Sep 22, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Liana Brazil wrote:

> alexandra
>
> for the javascript to work, you also need to include this
>
> <script language="JavaScript">
>     <!--
>     function spawnWindow(URL,Name,features) {
>     window.open(URL,Name,features);
>     }
>     //-->
> </script>
>
> between <head> and body of the html page that has your flash file  
> in it
>
> On Sep 22, 2005, at 12:27 PM, eric socolofsky wrote:
>
>> yep, what irena said.
>>
>> and if you want an even quicker answer, try posting your questions  
>> to the itp-flash list....
>> http://forums.nyu.edu
>> join:itp-flash
>>
>> On Sep 22, 2005, at 9:03 AM, i r e n a wrote:
>>
>>
>>> getURL("javaScript:window.open('url', 'name', 'width=320,  
>>> heght=240')");
>>> -- i.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Alexandra Sherman wrote:hey all-
>>>
>>>>
>>>> if you have a sec, i'm wondering if anyone knows...
>>>> i'm linking to a separate page from a MC in flash using getURL.
>>>> simple enough, but i want the window to open at a certain size.   
>>>> how do i tell flash to do this?
>>>>
>>>> i've got the basic:
>>>> on (release) {
>>>>         getURL("http://www.yadayada.html","_blank");
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> but don't know how to set size...
>>>>
>>>> alternatively i feel i could set the window to open itself in a  
>>>> certain size in javascript, but i only know how to do
>>>> that from  the linking page, not the window itself.
>>>>
>>>> i.e. <a href="page.html" onClick="window.open('page.html', 'page',
>>>> 'status,resizable=yes,scrollbars=no,width=100,height=100', '');  
>>>> return false"> This link opens a new 100x100
>>>> window</a>
>>>>
>>>> any thoughts on either way to accomplish this would be greatly  
>>>> appreciated (w/in flash preferred). my
>>>> documentation sux...
>>>> many thanks in advance!
>>>>
>>>> alex
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 22, 2005 12:27:52 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: setting linked window size in Flash...?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

eric, you're fired

On Sep 22, 2005, at 12:12 PM, Eric Forman wrote:

> you can also put all the JS inside Flash, avoiding the need for  
> external HTML:
>
> on (release) {
> getURL ("javascript:NewWindow=window.open 
> ('PoppedUpWindow.html','newWin','width=400,height=300,left=0,top=0,
> toolbar=No,location=No,scrollbars=No,status=No,resizable=No,fullscreen 
> =No');  NewWindow.focus();
> void(0);");
> }
>
> eric, sorry to not post to your wonderful flash list
>
> On Sep 22, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Liana Brazil wrote:
>
>> alexandra
>>
>> for the javascript to work, you also need to include this
>>
>> <script language="JavaScript">
>>     <!--
>>     function spawnWindow(URL,Name,features) {
>>     window.open(URL,Name,features);
>>     }
>>     //-->
>> </script>
>>
>> between <head> and body of the html page that has your flash file  
>> in it
>>
>> On Sep 22, 2005, at 12:27 PM, eric socolofsky wrote:
>>
>>> yep, what irena said.
>>>
>>> and if you want an even quicker answer, try posting your  
>>> questions to the itp-flash list....
>>> http://forums.nyu.edu
>>> join:itp-flash
>>>
>>> On Sep 22, 2005, at 9:03 AM, i r e n a wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> getURL("javaScript:window.open('url', 'name', 'width=320,  
>>>> heght=240')");
>>>> -- i.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Alexandra Sherman wrote:hey all-
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> if you have a sec, i'm wondering if anyone knows...
>>>>> i'm linking to a separate page from a MC in flash using getURL.
>>>>> simple enough, but i want the window to open at a certain  
>>>>> size.  how do i tell flash to do this?
>>>>>
>>>>> i've got the basic:
>>>>> on (release) {
>>>>>         getURL("http://www.yadayada.html","_blank");
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> but don't know how to set size...
>>>>>
>>>>> alternatively i feel i could set the window to open itself in a  
>>>>> certain size in javascript, but i only know how to do
>>>>> that from  the linking page, not the window itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> i.e. <a href="page.html" onClick="window.open('page.html', 'page',
>>>>> 'status,resizable=yes,scrollbars=no,width=100,height=100', '');  
>>>>> return false"> This link opens a new 100x100
>>>>> window</a>
>>>>>
>>>>> any thoughts on either way to accomplish this would be greatly  
>>>>> appreciated (w/in flash preferred). my
>>>>> documentation sux...
>>>>> many thanks in advance!
>>>>>
>>>>> alex
>>>>>
>>>>>
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From: Edward Gordon <ejg4@homemail.nyu.edu>
Date: September 22, 2005 1:07:20 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Graphic Designer and Animator/COMPUTERS FOR YOUTH
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

COMPUTERS FOR YOUTH
Job Title: Graphic Designer and Animator
Deadline for Applications: September 28, 2005
Start Date: Mid-October
Computers for Youth (www.cfy.org) is seeking to hire a creative  
individual to fill the position of "Graphic Designer and Animator"  
This position is part-time (15-20 hours per week) and temporary (3-7  
months).

The rate of pay for the position ranges from $20-40 / hour, depending  
upon experience. The successful candidate will work primarily at his  
or her own location but will meet on a biweekly basis with CFY  
project staff at CFY's mid-town Manhattan office.

Organizational Description: Computers for Youth (CFY) is a NYC-based  
non-profit organization that
provides home computers to underserved children and families and  
offers a range of services to help them use the technology to improve  
their quality of life and enhance learning opportunities in their homes.

Job Description: CFY's Graphic Designer and Animator will work with  
CFY project staff to:

1. Help conceptualize and design an interactive, computer-based  
"Encourager" application that
motivates and teaches middle school students to use select computer  
programs in ways that will help them succeed academically.

2. Create original artwork and animations.

3. Integrate sound, graphic and animation content into an application  
that is engaging and instructive to children aged 11-13.

4. Communicate regularly with project staff-electronically and in  
person.

5. Conduct usability tests on the application at various points  
during the design process.

6. Revise and redesign aspects of the "Encourager"application as needed.

Job Requirements:
n Expertise creating animations in Macromedia Flash (including  
Actionscripting) and graphics in Adobe
Photoshop and/or Illustrator.
n Proficiency with various audio formats (.mp3,  
aac .mp4, .wav, .wma, .oog, .midi., etc)
n College education or comparable experience.
n Good work habits: Punctuality, consistency, and commitment to  
excellence.
n Good interpersonal and communication skills.
n Ability to work well independently.
n Interest in education, computing, and public service.
n Familiarity with under-served populations, experience with  
Macromedia Director, and project
management experience are preferred but not required.

To Apply: Mail, fax, or e-mail the following to R. Ghan:

(1) Letter of interest

(2) Resume

(3) Link to on-line portfolio or digital work samples.

 Fax: (212) 563.1215
 E-mail: rghan@cfy.org
 Mail: Computers for Youth; 505 8th Ave., Suite #2402, NYC 10018  
Attn: R. Ghan.

CFY will contact promising candidates. Resumes must be received by  
September 28th, 2005.


--
Edward J. Gordon
Faculty & Student Services Coordinator
Interactive Telecommunications Program
Tisch School of the Arts
New York University
721 Broadway, 4th floor
New York, NY 10003
phone: (212) 998-1889
fax: (212) 998-1898
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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Peter DePietro  
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Date: September 21, 2005 3:04:56 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Mini DV Cam - G5 - Final Cut Pro
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I need a mini DV cam to use as a video deck (capture and print) with  
Final Cut Pro 5 and my G5 (with updated operating system).  I'm  
thinking of a SONY.  Any suggestions?



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From: fleeta j <fleeta-itp@sens.eu.com>
Date: September 22, 2005 5:44:13 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Mini DV Cam - G5 - Final Cut Pro
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Sony DSR-11
Both PAL and NTSC

peace,fleeta


On Sep 21, 2005, at 8:04 PM, Peter DePietro wrote:

> I need a mini DV cam to use as a video deck (capture and print)  
> with Final Cut Pro 5 and my G5 (with updated operating system).   
> I'm thinking of a SONY.  Any suggestions?
>
>
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From: Liana Brazil <liana@uberdevices.com>
Date: September 22, 2005 10:47:48 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Mini DV Cam - G5 - Final Cut Pro
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

using the camera as a deck causes problems, inevitably, to the camera.
i used mine anyway as a deck (it's a sony trv900) and fixed it twice,  
until i bought a deck (sony deck mini dv/dvcam dsr11)
both my camera and deck are great

On Sep 22, 2005, at 6:44 AM, fleeta j wrote:

> Sony DSR-11
> Both PAL and NTSC
>
> peace,fleeta
>
>
> On Sep 21, 2005, at 8:04 PM, Peter DePietro wrote:
>
>
>> I need a mini DV cam to use as a video deck (capture and print)  
>> with Final Cut Pro 5 and my G5 (with updated operating system).   
>> I'm thinking of a SONY.  Any suggestions?
>>
>>
>>
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From: Tim Healy <timalumnilist@yahoo.com>
Date: September 22, 2005 2:22:46 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Mini DV Cam - G5 - Final Cut Pro
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Although I use this deck too and it has been great, I
I would check out decks that also do High Def mini DV
and DV cam formats. They are usually backwards
compatible to mini DV and DV cam formats. Oh yeah, the
DSR 11 does mini DV and DV Cam as well as the NTSC and
PAL formats. Great little machine for budget minded
film/video makers.

--- Liana Brazil <liana@uberdevices.com> wrote:

> using the camera as a deck causes problems,
> inevitably, to the camera.
> i used mine anyway as a deck (it's a sony trv900)
> and fixed it twice,
> until i bought a deck (sony deck mini dv/dvcam
> dsr11)
> both my camera and deck are great
>
> On Sep 22, 2005, at 6:44 AM, fleeta j wrote:
>
>> Sony DSR-11
>> Both PAL and NTSC
>>
>> peace,fleeta
>>
>>
>> On Sep 21, 2005, at 8:04 PM, Peter DePietro wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I need a mini DV cam to use as a video deck
> (capture and print)
>>> with Final Cut Pro 5 and my G5 (with updated
> operating system).
>>> I'm thinking of a SONY.  Any suggestions?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From: Lian Chang <ex@diametrik.net>
Date: September 22, 2005 2:38:06 PM EDT
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Subject: lethal dog flu in 7 states
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dog owners be wary:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/22/national/22canine.html


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From: Eric Nadler <enadler@redcent.net>
Date: September 22, 2005 3:01:55 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: JOB: Lead Engineer
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okay, folks... here's the first of a few postings from the good folks  
here at Red Cent... lots of interesting projects coming down the  
pipeline, and, we're looking for the best of the best (thus the  
posting here :-)



Lead Engineer

Red Cent develops interactive marketing solutions for brandmanagers  
as well as for production outsourcing partners such as agencies,  
marketing & public relations companies, and creative boutiques. Our  
projects include Web sites, online games and sweepstakes, and  
wireless games and promotions.

We are currently interviewing candidates for a high-level engineering  
position. Projects include client work, internal R&D, and product  
development.

Job tasks include:

 Hands-on programming
 Specification writing
 Data modeling
 Algorithm development
 Management of junior engineers

Candidate must:

		Demonstrate creative problem-solving skills
		Demonstrate novel approaches to technical and business challenges
		Demonstrate the ability to make difficult decisions based on  
careful cost-benefit analysis.
		Have excellent written and verbal communications skills
		Be prepared to lead technical meetings and calls with vendors and  
clients
		In short, be intelligent, inquisitive, clever

The ideal candidate has the ability to rapidly learn new technologies  
and languages, and is expected to have proficiency with:

		PHP/MySQL
		ASP/.Net/SQL Server
		Both Linux and Windows servers
		XML, XSL, Python, BASH, Sendmail, and miscellaneous Linux command- 
line applications
		Understanding the capabilities of front-end technologies such as:
		HTML
		Flash
		JavaScript
		Emerging end technologies such as AJAX

This job is initially a contract part-time onsite position, possibly  
becoming a fulltime salaried position.

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Date: September 22, 2005 3:50:07 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: Lead Engineer
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please reply to:
jobs@redcent.net

(doh...)


From: Eric Nadler [mailto:enadler@redcent.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:02 PM
To: ITP Alumni
Subject: JOB: Lead Engineer


okay, folks... here's the first of a few postings from the good folks  
here at Red Cent... lots of interesting projects coming down the  
pipeline, and, we're looking for the best of the best (thus the  
posting here :-)



Lead Engineer

Red Cent develops interactive marketing solutions for brandmanagers  
as well as for production outsourcing partners such as agencies,  
marketing & public relations companies, and creative boutiques. Our  
projects include Web sites, online games and sweepstakes, and  
wireless games and promotions.

We are currently interviewing candidates for a high-level engineering  
position. Projects include client work, internal R&D, and product  
development.

Job tasks include:

 Hands-on programming
 Specification writing
 Data modeling
 Algorithm development
 Management of junior engineers

Candidate must:

		Demonstrate creative problem-solving skills
		Demonstrate novel approaches to technical and business challenges
		Demonstrate the ability to make difficult decisions based on  
careful cost-benefit analysis.
		Have excellent written and verbal communications skills
		Be prepared to lead technical meetings and calls with vendors and  
clients
		In short, be intelligent, inquisitive, clever

The ideal candidate has the ability to rapidly learn new technologies  
and languages, and is expected to have proficiency with:

		PHP/MySQL
		ASP/.Net/SQL Server
		Both Linux and Windows servers
		XML, XSL, Python, BASH, Sendmail, and miscellaneous Linux command- 
line applications
		Understanding the capabilities of front-end technologies such as:
		HTML
		Flash
		JavaScript
		Emerging end technologies such as AJAX

This job is initially a contract part-time onsite position, possibly  
becoming a fulltime salaried position.

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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Manlio Lo Conte <manlio@mloco.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 4:24:49 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: anyone know a good place to record an album
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hey all,

My friend Katie is looking to go into a studio and record her second  
full length album sometime soon. shes a folk musician, most of the  
songs will be guitar, bass, drums, and vocals. Shes been having  
trouble finding a good studio, most of the places that shes talked  
to seem to want to charge her an incredible amount of money. Shes  
looking for something a little more high quality than a bedroom  
recording setup (which is why im not recording her myself), but  
something a little more cost effective than the hit factory. Anyone  
have any recommendations?

Thanks

-manlio
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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: itp_alum@yangster.com
Date: September 20, 2005 4:36:15 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: anyone know a good place to record an album
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

maybe try the Recorded Music department at Tisch?
they have a nice studio...perhaps they also rent it out.

> Hey all,
>
>
>
> My friend Katie is looking to go into a studio and record her  
> second full
> length album sometime soon. she's a folk musician, most of the  
> songs will
> be
> guitar, bass, drums, and vocals. She's been having trouble finding  
> a good
> studio, most of the places that she's talked to seem to want to  
> charge her
> an incredible amount of money. She's looking for something a little  
> more
> high quality than a bedroom recording setup (which is why i'm not
> recording
> her myself), but something a little more cost effective than the hit
> factory. Anyone have any recommendations?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> -manlio
>
>
>
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From: Stacey Chevalier Kerr <staceychev@gmail.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 5:38:06 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: anyone know a good place to record an album
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Put her in contact with my husband, who's a graduate of City  
College's Sonic Arts Program (and could use some work!). They have a  
great studio there. If my husband can't record her, he can put her in  
touch with someone who can.

His name is Steve.
Email: stevekerrbass@earthlink.net
Phone: 917-584-0273

Tell her to mention to him that it's an ITP contact thing.

Stacey


On 9/20/05, itp_alum@yangster.com <itp_alum@yangster.com> wrote:
maybe try the Recorded Music department at Tisch?
they have a nice studio...perhaps they also rent it out.

 > Hey all,
 >
 >
 >
 > My friend Katie is looking to go into a studio and record her  
second full
 > length album sometime soon. she's a folk musician, most of the  
songs will
 > be
 > guitar, bass, drums, and vocals. She's been having trouble finding  
a good
 > studio, most of the places that she's talked to seem to want to  
charge her
 > an incredible amount of money. She's looking for something a  
little more
 > high quality than a bedroom recording setup (which is why i'm not
 > recording
 > her myself), but something a little more cost effective than the hit
 > factory. Anyone have any recommendations?
 >
 >
 >
 > Thanks
 >
 >
 >
 > -manlio
 >
 >
 >
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Date: September 20, 2005 9:14:17 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: anyone know a good place to record an album
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

It's an A level room, but one very used to working with fok oriented  
music, in addition to just about everything else. The Magic Shop  
http://www.magicshopny.com/ and their main home page http:// 
www.magicshopny.com/mshome.html They're on Crosby St off of Spring.

I worked there while I was at ITP in 92-94 as their digital guy, back  
when there weren't many of us doing digital audio.
It's a spectacular sounding room, amazing Neve console, the normal  
pro tools, tons of great vintage analog gear. Steve Rosenthal, the  
owner, is famous for his work on all the Stones reissues, and he's  
worked with everyone from Lou Reed to well, everyone. Client list is  
http://www.magicshopny.com/msclients.htmlThe other engineers are all  
great. one of the best live drum rooms in the city.

Their rates are competitive, depending on who's in at the time, the  
quality is outstanding. You can have your friend talk wtih Steve or  
email him, please use my name for whatever it's worth, he will  
remember me.

Mark Avnet


From: Manlio Lo Conte [mailto:manlio@mloco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 4:25 PM
To: ITP Alumni
Subject: anyone know a good place to record an album


Hey all,

My friend Katie is looking to go into a studio and record her second  
full length album sometime soon. shes a folk musician, most of the  
songs will be guitar, bass, drums, and vocals. Shes been having  
trouble finding a good studio, most of the places that shes talked  
to seem to want to charge her an incredible amount of money. Shes  
looking for something a little more high quality than a bedroom  
recording setup (which is why im not recording her myself), but  
something a little more cost effective than the hit factory. Anyone  
have any recommendations?

Thanks

-manlio
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From: Steve Bull <bull@el.net>
Date: September 20, 2005 10:03:49 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Cc: bw@el.net, steve@ctlss.com
Subject: RE: anyone know a good place to record an album
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I like Brooks Williams place Harmonic Ranch [http:// 
www.harmonicranch.com/].

> It's an A level room, but one very used to working with fok oriented
> music, in addition to just about everything else. The Magic Shop  
> HYPERLINK
> "http://www.magicshopny.com/"http://www.magicshopny.com/  and their  
> main
> home page HYPERLINK
> "http://www.magicshopny.com/mshome.html"http://www.magicshopny.com/ 
> mshome.html
>  They're on Crosby St off of Spring.
>
> I worked there while I was at ITP in 92-94 as their digital guy,  
> back when
> there weren't many of us doing digital audio.
> It's a spectacular sounding room, amazing Neve console, the normal pro
> tools, tons of great vintage analog gear. Steve Rosenthal, the  
> owner, is
> famous for his work on all the Stones reissues, and he's worked with
> everyone from Lou Reed to well, everyone. Client list is HYPERLINK
> "http://www.magicshopny.com/msclients.html"http:// 
> www.magicshopny.com/msclients.html
> The other engineers are all great. one of the best live drum rooms  
> in the
> city.
>
> Their rates are competitive, depending on who's in at the time, the
> quality is outstanding. You can have your friend talk wtih Steve or  
> email
> him, please use my name for whatever it's worth, he will remember me.
>
> Mark Avnet
>
>    _____
>
> From: Manlio Lo Conte [mailto:manlio@mloco.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 4:25 PM
> To: ITP Alumni
> Subject: anyone know a good place to record an album
>
>
>
> Hey all,
>
>
>
> My friend Katie is looking to go into a studio and record her  
> second full
> length album sometime soon. shes a folk musician, most of the  
> songs will
> be guitar, bass, drums, and vocals. Shes been having trouble  
> finding a
> good studio, most of the places that shes talked to seem to want to
> charge her an incredible amount of money. Shes looking for  
> something a
> little more high quality than a bedroom recording setup (which is  
> why im
> not recording her myself), but something a little more cost  
> effective than
> the hit factory. Anyone have any recommendations?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> -manlio
>
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From: Bob Berger <berger.cvr@gmail.com>
Date: September 22, 2005 9:48:16 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: anyone know a good place to record an album
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I have worked with both Studio G, Brooklyn (http:// 
studiogbrooklyn.com/) as well as The Looking Glass Recording  
Studios, NYC (http://www.glassnyc.com/.) Both are great. Studio G is  
particularly suited to perhaps more traditional type stuff while The  
Looking Glass is probably equipped to work with more non-traditional  
stuff.

-- 
Bob Berger
www.charlievictorromeo.com
http://tripoutthroughthewindshield.blogspot.com//
berger.cvr@gmail.com

"There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his  
hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

On 9/20/05, Steve Bull <bull@el.net> wrote:
I like Brooks Williams place Harmonic Ranch [http:// 
www.harmonicranch.com/ ].

 > It's an A level room, but one very used to working with fok oriented
 > music, in addition to just about everything else. The Magic Shop  
HYPERLINK
 > " http://www.magicshopny.com/"http://www.magicshopny.com/and  
their main
 > home page HYPERLINK
 > "http://www.magicshopny.com/mshome.html"http://www.magicshopny.com/ 
mshome.html
 >They're on Crosby St off of Spring.
 >
 > I worked there while I was at ITP in 92-94 as their digital guy,  
back when
 > there weren't many of us doing digital audio.
 > It's a spectacular sounding room, amazing Neve console, the normal  
pro
 > tools, tons of great vintage analog gear. Steve Rosenthal, the  
owner, is
 > famous for his work on all the Stones reissues, and he's worked with
 > everyone from Lou Reed to well, everyone. Client list is HYPERLINK
 > "http://www.magicshopny.com/msclients.html"http:// 
www.magicshopny.com/msclients.html
 > The other engineers are all great. one of the best live drum rooms  
in the
 > city.
 >
 > Their rates are competitive, depending on who's in at the time, the
 > quality is outstanding. You can have your friend talk wtih Steve  
or email
 > him, please use my name for whatever it's worth, he will remember me.
 >
 > Mark Avnet
 >
 >_____
 >
 > From: Manlio Lo Conte [mailto:manlio@mloco.com]
 > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 4:25 PM
 > To: ITP Alumni
 > Subject: anyone know a good place to record an album
 >
 >
 >
 > Hey all,
 >
 >
 >
 > My friend Katie is looking to go into a studio and record her  
second full
 > length album sometime soon. she's a folk musician, most of the  
songs will
 > be guitar, bass, drums, and vocals. She's been having trouble  
finding a
 > good studio, most of the places that she's talked to seem to want to
 > charge her an incredible amount of money. She's looking for  
something a
 > little more high quality than a bedroom recording setup (which is  
why i'm
 > not recording her myself), but something a little more cost  
effective than
 > the hit factory. Anyone have any recommendations?
 >
 >
 >
 > Thanks
 >
 >
 >
 > -manlio
 >
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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Daniel H Palkowski  
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Date: September 22, 2005 3:57:38 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: anyone know a good place to record an album
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Give Bob Muller at Dangerous Music a call

----- Original Message -----
From: Manlio Lo Conte <manlio@mloco.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 4:24 pm
Subject: anyone know a good place to record an album

> Hey all,
>
>
>
> My friend Katie is looking to go into a studio and record her
> second full
> length album sometime soon. she's a folk musician, most of the
> songs will be
> guitar, bass, drums, and vocals. She's been having trouble finding
> a good
> studio, most of the places that she's talked to seem to want to
> charge her
> an incredible amount of money. She's looking for something a
> little more
> high quality than a bedroom recording setup (which is why i'm not
> recordingher myself), but something a little more cost effective
> than the hit
> factory. Anyone have any recommendations?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> -manlio
>
>
>
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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 5:36:37 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: nystate camping?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

looking for a campground in new york, maybe in the range of about 4  
hours' drive from here?  catskills perhaps?  that has good hiking,  
woodsy/mountainous terrain, maybe a pretty lake or waterfall....any  
suggestions?  the fewer RVs the better....

-e


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From: Pamela Vitale <pv291@nyu.edu>
Date: September 20, 2005 6:26:50 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: nystate camping?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

my suggestion to you is go to campmoore on park place down town and get
some topo maps of north or south western corner of the catskills.

Or go to the Esopus. NY which is above Kingston...great place to start
and many a trail heads...although before that is a hugh waterfall off a
winding road off a cliff to which is actually part of a trail.

Amazing trails.

pamela.vitale





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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:36 pm
Subject: nystate camping?

> looking for a campground in new york, maybe in the range of about 4
> hours' drive from here?  catskills perhaps?  that has good hiking,
> woodsy/mountainous terrain, maybe a pretty lake or waterfall....any
> suggestions?  the fewer RVs the better....
>
> -e
>
>
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From: Daniel H Palkowski <daniel.palkowski@nyu.edu>
Date: September 22, 2005 4:01:03 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: nystate camping?
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Little Pond is a nice state campground, not too far, Woodstock-ward

----- Original Message -----
From: Pamela Vitale <pv291@nyu.edu>
Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 6:26 pm
Subject: Re: nystate camping?

> my suggestion to you is go to campmoore on park place down town
> and get
> some topo maps of north or south western corner of the catskills.
>
> Or go to the Esopus. NY which is above Kingston...great place to
> start
> and many a trail heads...although before that is a hugh waterfall
> off a
> winding road off a cliff to which is actually part of a trail.
>
> Amazing trails.
>
> pamela.vitale
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
> Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:36 pm
> Subject: nystate camping?
>
>> looking for a campground in new york, maybe in the range of
> about 4
>> hours' drive from here?  catskills perhaps?  that has good
> hiking,
>> woodsy/mountainous terrain, maybe a pretty lake or
> waterfall....any
>> suggestions?  the fewer RVs the better....
>>
>> -e
>>
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From: Eric Nadler <enadler@redcent.net>
Date: September 22, 2005 4:10:22 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: JOB: Creative Director
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

and, this is the last one for the moment... but ever-so-important :-)


send resume, cl, links, and box of Jaques Torres to:
jobs@redcent.net



Creative Director

Red Cent develops interactive marketing solutions for brand managers  
as well as for production outsourcing partners such as agencies,  
marketing & public relations companies, and creative boutiques. Our  
projects include Web sites, online games and sweepstakes, and  
wireless games and promotions.

We are interviewing candidates to fill a new high-level creative  
position. Responsibilities of this position include:

 Developing and carrying forth the overall Creative  
strategy and philosophy of Red Cent
 Driving and participating in New Business efforts  
as required
 Sourcing and smartly applying creative resources to  
projects
 Resource management of creatives on active and  
upcoming projects in the production pipeline
 Overseeing/Directing all of the companys  
creative business, including concepting, designing and execution
 Managing graphic designers and information architects


Candidate must:

		Demonstrate a thorough understanding of the various attributes,  
strengths and weaknesses of all forms of electronic media
		Understand how different media may be combined to create an  
integrated concept that works
		Demonstrate experience with cutting-edge projects utilizing  
disparate electronic media
		Demonstrate an understanding of how design and technology  
complement each other
		How to conceive, plan, and implement integrated projects
		Demonstrate excellent written and verbal communications skills
		Be prepared to lead creative meetings and calls with vendors and  
clients
		Have a thorough understanding of the business aspects of design
		Understand, ascribe to, and apply the essential principals of  
commercial design for the Web

This job is a contract part-time onsite position, eventually growing  
into a fulltime position.


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Date: September 22, 2005 4:13:23 PM EDT
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Subject: JOB : Systems (Web) Engineer
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looking for a solid hand's on engineer too...

please send resume, links, etc. to:
jobs@redcent.net




Systems Engineer

Red Cent develops interactive marketing solutions for brand managers  
as well as for production outsourcing partners such as agencies,  
marketing & public relations companies, and creative boutiques. Our  
projects include Web sites, online games and sweepstakes, and  
wireless games and promotions.

We seek to hire an experienced systems engineer to design, build, and  
deploy client and internal projects.

Work will include:

 Web development
 Database and systems development
 Integration

Candidate must:

		Demonstrate proficiency in common web technologies, especially:
		PHP/MySQL
		ASP/.NET/SQL Server
		Have experience with most of the following technologies
		XML
		XSL
		Python
		BASH
		Sendmail
		Java
		JSP
		Web services.
		Good working knowledge of the capabilities of standard front-end  
technologies (Flash and JavaScript)
		General knowledge of and experience with HTML

This job is a contract part-time onsite position, with the  
possibility of becoming fulltime salaried.




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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Jake Barton <jakebarton1@gmail.com>
Date: September 22, 2005 6:49:42 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: health insurance
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Freelancers Union is the one that I think many ITPers rely on:

http://www.workingtoday.org/productsservices/products.php

Best,
J

On 9/23/05, YE <yenoky@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear ITPers and folks,

Is there any health insurance recommendation for freelancer in NY?
I have a friend who has a serious problem right now.
Any kind of suggestion would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Yoshie

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Date: September 23, 2005 4:21:33 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: health insurance
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Dear ITPers and folks,

Is there any health insurance recommendation for freelancer in NY?
I have a friend who has a serious problem right now.
Any kind of suggestion would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Yoshie
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From: Joseph Zachary S Silayan <joey.silayan@nyu.edu>
Date: September 22, 2005 7:02:37 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: health insurance
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try this website:

http://www.healthyny.com/

you'll definitely find somethere there.

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From: Joseph Zachary S Silayan <joey.silayan@nyu.edu>
Date: September 22, 2005 7:03:53 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: health insurance
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i mean, you'll find someTHING there

blahh

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> try this website:
>
> http://www.healthyny.com/
>
> you'll definitely find somethere there.


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From: Shawn Van Every <vanevery@walking-productions.com>
Date: September 22, 2005 10:28:14 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Fwd: PHP Web Software Developer Needed
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Begin forwarded message:

> From: work@ppolitics.org
> Date: September 22, 2005 8:19:49 PM EDT
> To: vanevery@walking-productions.com
> Subject: PHP Web Software Developer Needed
>
>
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> We just posted this on the blog, but we also wanted to reach out to  
> you by email. We're looking for a contractor or full-time employee  
> (whichever comes first) to work on a new web project. The job  
> posting can be read here:
>
> http://participatoryculture.org/blog/
>
> Or read the blog post below for more details:
>
> ------
> http://participatoryculture.org/blog/
>
> We have an interesting, potentially powerful and popular software/ 
> website project we want to get started on right away. We're looking  
> for a contractor who can get started as soon as possible on this  
> project and who has the exact skill sets to pull this project  
> together in a timely and solid fashion. You must excel at PHP/ 
> MySQL, have experience building web applications from scratch,  
> experience with XML databases and RSS. You must have experience  
> with or become acclimated to AJAX pretty quickly. We think it is  
> important that you have a computer science background to handle  
> this project well. If you have experience with setting up LDAP  
> databases, that's a big plus. We're thinking this project should  
> take about a month to two months to finish and you will be working  
> with one other Web developer on it.
>
> We've also been looking for a full-time Web Software Developer  
> staff member. We will hire whichever position we can fill first,  
> with the contractor position possibly leading to full-time  
> employment as a Web Software Developer, depending on the fit. Read  
> our description for the Web Software Developer here:
>
> http://participatoryculture.org/jobs/
>
> We're looking for someone who knows object databases well and who  
> can build solid web applications and has some experience with  
> desktop application functionality.
>
> Although we are a non-profit, we have competitive rates based on  
> skill, please apply. This could be the beginning of a really good  
> opportunity to do something that is socially motivated, wildly  
> popular, and really fun to work on. We're a team of 8, we're young  
> and want to get things done. Write to work (at) ppolitics.org, if  
> you're interested in joining us.
>
> Thanks for your interest,
>
> Tiffiniy Cheng
> participatoryculture.org
> dtvmac.com
> tyc at ppolitics.org
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From: Jeffrey Prince <prince1963@hotmail.com>
Date: September 23, 2005 7:23:10 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: part-time photoshop work
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

maybe a week or two weeks ago some one posted a listing for part-time  
photoshop work...a friend is looking and I was wondering if the  
poster could send me a copy of the listing...

thanks


jeff



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From: Gloria Sed <gloria.sed@nyu.edu>
Date: September 23, 2005 9:22:23 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Cc: itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu
Subject: JOB: Freelance Webmaster
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Respond to them directly.


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Calabash Journal <calabash_journal@hotmail.com>
> Date: September 20, 2005 7:02:16 PM EDT
> To: gloria.sed@nyu.edu
> Subject: HELP WANTED.
>
> Gloria:
>
> I am looking for someone who has good familiarity with html, css,  
> and experience with working on a live  website on a server/basic  
> unix experience.
>
> Basically, what needs to be done is converting Open Office  
> documents to PDF files, uploading files to server, creating  
> webpages, creating web forms ect.  More information on the exact  
> workflow will be provided together with training, which will be  
> provided by the director of visual arts projects at Bobst.
>
> This is a freelance job for the present.  However, if the person is  
> good then we will give them a contract to be our webmaster.
>
> The website in question is: www.nyu.edu/calabash
>
> Anyone interested please get back to me via this email address ASAP  
> as this job is time sensitive.
>
>
> Thank you,
> -Trevor Peters
>
>
>
> From: Shawn Van Every <vanevery@walking-productions.com>
Date: September 23, 2005 9:40:36 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Video Blogging Software Translations
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

A couple friends of mine are releasing a new version of their video  
blogging aggregator software (FireAnt) and are looking for translations.

Right now they are looking for: Spanish, Italian and German.

They are paying (I don't know how much) and it shouldn't be too much  
work.

Please contact: jay.dedman@gmail.com if you are interested.

More below:

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>
> The requirements are as follows:
>
> - Native speakers of the target language
> - Mac users for more than 1 year
> - Experience with Mac translations a plus, experience with Interface
> Builder or Apple's Developer Tools a double-plus
>
> Turnaround must be fast:
>
> - The files and instructions for translations will be send out at the
> beginning of the day Monday 26
> - Translations must be sent back to me Wednesday 28 by the end of the
> day


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From: Kevin Walker <kevin@exhibitresearch.com>
Date: September 23, 2005 9:45:40 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: hurricane widget
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/information/radarinmotion.html

handy for watching the track of storms.

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From: Donny Tsang <donny@nyu.edu>
Date: September 22, 2005 6:31:57 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: generic printer ink?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

hi y'all,

anyone know where i can find some generic epson printer ink in the city?

thx

donny


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From: Sonali Sridhar <ss3546@nyu.edu>
Date: September 23, 2005 11:18:31 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: generic printer ink?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

staples, office max any one of those stores!

On Sep 22, 2005, at 6:31 PM, Donny Tsang wrote:

> hi y'all,
>
> anyone know where i can find some generic epson printer ink in the  
> city?
>
> thx
>
> donny
>
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From: Edward Gordon <ejg4@homemail.nyu.edu>
Date: September 23, 2005 11:25:47 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: VP, Client Services/CSTV
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

VP, Client Services

Job Description
This position willoversee all client relationships and operations as  
theyrelate to "All-Access",CSTV Online's audio/video subscription  
product. The successful candidate will have managed major client  
relationships, trained and developed customer service staff and have  
a proven track record of managing and exceeding client  
expectations.Qualified applicantsmust have at least five (5)  
years experience in the management of clientandcustomer service  
departments.This position requires exceptional organization skills  
and the ability to communicate across multiple departments


Responsibilities
* Build a world class client and customer service staff  
from the ground up.
* Analyze and create business reports that support company  
business
* Serve as the primary liaison between CSTV Online and  
external clients - being the first and last line of defense with all  
clients.
* Work with third party vendor, internal teamand client  
base to develop a customizable product that meets the needs of all  
individual clients.
* Evaluate and analyze user, partner, and customer  
information needs (business processes, procedures and problems)
* Assist clientswith case studies of best practices,  
enabling them to maximize product efficiency and margin/revenue

Requirements
* Ability to support and manage multiple clients of the  
same product but with vastly different needs
* Ability to set realistic expectations for clients and  
deliver results
* Ability to understand clients needs and effectively  
communicate those needs to internal design, development and  
technology teams.
* Minimum five (5) years working experience with web  
applications,preferably with streaming content.
* Experience developing a world class client service  
staff, including hiring, training, education and evaluation of all  
direct and indirect reports.
* Required: Extensive knowledge and familiarity with best- 
practices and current technology in web design, UI, and functional  
and technical capabilities.
* Excellent oral and written professional communication  
skills.
* Ability to understand clients needs and effectively  
communicate those needs to internal design, development and  
technology teams.

Reply to:
jbs@cstv.com


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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: sarah teitler <saraht@panix.com>
Date: September 23, 2005 7:18:07 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: something nice to look at
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

animation on the streets...

http://www.vkn.lv/index.php?parent=525
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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Andrea Moed <amoeda@gmail.com>
Date: September 23, 2005 11:35:49 AM EDT
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Subject: Re: something nice to look at
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Oh, cool idea! Thanks.
--a

On 9/23/05, sarah teitler <saraht@panix.com> wrote:
animation on the streets...

http://www.vkn.lv/index.php?parent=525
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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Benjamin Gonzalez  
<ben@mutednarrative.com>
Date: September 23, 2005 11:39:34 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Recomendations on Color copier
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hello listland,

Wondering if anyone can give me some advice, recommendations or steer  
clear off advice regarding color copiers. We need one for our  
office, its a small group of about 10  12 people. Any advice  
is surely appreciated. Hope everyone is well.

Thanks,
Ben
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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Andrea Moed <amoeda@gmail.com>
Date: September 23, 2005 11:44:13 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Fwd: NSA granted Net location-tracking patent
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<http://news.com.com/2102-7348_3-5875953.html?tag=st.util.print>

CNET News


NSA granted Net location-tracking patent

By Declan McCullagh

Story last modified Wed Sep 21 13:49:00 PDT 2005


The National Security Agency has obtained a patent on a method of  
figuring
out an Internet user's geographic location.

Patent 6,947,978, granted Tuesday, describes a way to discover someone's
physical location by comparing it to a "map" of Internet addresses with
known locations.

The NSA did not respond Wednesday to an interview request, and the  
patent
description talks only generally about the technology's potential  
uses. It
says the geographic location of Internet users could be used to "measure
the effectiveness of advertising across geographic regions" or flag a
password that "could be noted or disabled if not used from or near the
appropriate location."

Other applications of the geo-location patent, invented by Stephen  
Huffman
and Michael Reifer of Maryland, could relate to the NSA's signals
intelligence mission--which is, bluntly put, spying on the  
communications
of non-U.S. citizens.

"If someone's engaged in a dialogue or frequenting a 'bad' Web site, the
NSA might want to know where they are," said Mike Liebhold, a senior
researcher at the Institute for the Future who has studied geo-location
technology. "It wouldn't give them precision, but it would give them  
a clue
that they could use to narrow down the location with other intelligence
methods."

The NSA's patent relies on measuring the latency, meaning the time lag
between computers exchanging data, of "numerous" locations on the  
Internet
and building a "network latency topology map." Then, at least in theory,
the Internet address to be identified can be looked up on the map by
measuring how long it takes known computers to connect to the unknown  
one.



The technique isn't foolproof. People using a dial-up connection  
can't be
traced beyond their Internet service provider--which could be in an
different area of the country--and it doesn't account for proxy services
like Anonymizer.

Geo-location, sometimes called "geo-targeting" when used to deliver
advertising, is an increasingly attractive area for Internet businesses.
DoubleClick has licensed geo-location technology to deliver
location-dependent advertising, and Visa has signed a deal to use the
concept to identify possible credit card fraud in online orders.

Digital Envoy holds a patent on geo-location, and Quova, a privately  
held
firm in Mountain View, Calif., holds three more, one shared with  
Microsoft.

"It's honestly not clear that there's anything special or technically
advanced about what they're describing," Quova Vice President Gary  
Jackson
said, referring to the NSA's patent. "I'd have to have our technical  
guys
read it, but I don't think it impacts us in any way."




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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Stephan Knuesel  
<sk.itpalumni@gmail.com>
Date: September 23, 2005 12:56:50 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Milena Iossifova's email?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

anyone have it? her nyu email doesn't work anymore.

thanks

stephan
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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Sasha Harris-Cronin  
<sasha@mortalspaces.com>
Date: September 22, 2005 7:01:33 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: kiosk worthy analog joysticks?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Anyone have any favorite analog joysticks that are buff enough
to go into a museum kiosk?  Anyone used the Happ ones?

sasha.

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From: Eric Nadler <eric@simonmillworks.com>
Date: September 23, 2005 11:07:32 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: kiosk worthy analog joysticks?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Happ trackballs rock... dunno about the joysticks.

found this on google groups... seems like helpful info for you?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.mame/browse_thread/thread/ 
cc5af58f8
1a1f78b/b8a70e1f01b7849b?lnk=st&q=Happ&rnum=9&hl=en#b8a70e1f01b7849b

ESN

> -----Original Message-----
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> To: ITP Alumni
> Subject: kiosk worthy analog joysticks?
>
> Anyone have any favorite analog joysticks that are buff
> enough to go into a museum kiosk?  Anyone used the Happ ones?
>
> sasha.
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From: Sasha Harris-Cronin <sasha@mortalspaces.com>
Date: September 23, 2005 11:25:27 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: kiosk worthy analog joysticks?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Thanks!

We use Happ for almost everything.  Unfortunately, the analog  
joysticks (the ones in the review are digital) that they list are pot- 
driven, which is not ideal.  Pots wear out and are not terribly  
accurate.  An optical encoder would be far better.  They have one  
listed as optical, but since there are no datasheets, I can't figure  
out if they give full analog values.  And they seem to ignore their  
phone as a matter of course.

sasha.

On Sep 23, 2005, at 8:07 AM, Eric Nadler wrote:

> Happ trackballs rock... dunno about the joysticks.
>
> found this on google groups... seems like helpful info for you?
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.mame/browse_thread/thread/ 
> cc5af58f8
> 1a1f78b/b8a70e1f01b7849b?lnk=st&q=Happ&rnum=9&hl=en#b8a70e1f01b7849b
>
> ESN
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sasha Harris-Cronin [mailto:sasha@mortalspaces.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:02 PM
>> To: ITP Alumni
>> Subject: kiosk worthy analog joysticks?
>>
>> Anyone have any favorite analog joysticks that are buff
>> enough to go into a museum kiosk?  Anyone used the Happ ones?
>>
>> sasha.
>>
>> --sasha harris.cronin---
>> -sasha@mortalspaces.com-
>> ------415.516.2049------
>>
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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 23, 2005 3:02:00 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: kiosk worthy analog joysticks?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

happcontrols is definitely the way to go.  very solid equipment.

On Sep 23, 2005, at 11:07 AM, Eric Nadler wrote:

> Happ trackballs rock... dunno about the joysticks.
>
> found this on google groups... seems like helpful info for you?
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.mame/browse_thread/thread/ 
> cc5af58f8
> 1a1f78b/b8a70e1f01b7849b?lnk=st&q=Happ&rnum=9&hl=en#b8a70e1f01b7849b
>
> ESN
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sasha Harris-Cronin [mailto:sasha@mortalspaces.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:02 PM
>> To: ITP Alumni
>> Subject: kiosk worthy analog joysticks?
>>
>> Anyone have any favorite analog joysticks that are buff
>> enough to go into a museum kiosk?  Anyone used the Happ ones?
>>
>> sasha.
>>
>> --sasha harris.cronin---
>> -sasha@mortalspaces.com-
>> ------415.516.2049------
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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 23, 2005 3:02:54 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: kiosk worthy analog joysticks?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

oh sorry, i didn't notice the analog part.  i've only used the digital.

On Sep 23, 2005, at 11:25 AM, Sasha Harris-Cronin wrote:

> Thanks!
>
> We use Happ for almost everything.  Unfortunately, the analog  
> joysticks (the ones in the review are digital) that they list are  
> pot-driven, which is not ideal.  Pots wear out and are not terribly  
> accurate.  An optical encoder would be far better.  They have one  
> listed as optical, but since there are no datasheets, I can't  
> figure out if they give full analog values.  And they seem to  
> ignore their phone as a matter of course.
>
> sasha.
>
> On Sep 23, 2005, at 8:07 AM, Eric Nadler wrote:
>
>
>> Happ trackballs rock... dunno about the joysticks.
>>
>> found this on google groups... seems like helpful info for you?
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.mame/browse_thread/thread/ 
>> cc5af58f8
>> 1a1f78b/b8a70e1f01b7849b?lnk=st&q=Happ&rnum=9&hl=en#b8a70e1f01b7849b
>>
>> ESN
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sasha Harris-Cronin [mailto:sasha@mortalspaces.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:02 PM
>>> To: ITP Alumni
>>> Subject: kiosk worthy analog joysticks?
>>>
>>> Anyone have any favorite analog joysticks that are buff
>>> enough to go into a museum kiosk?  Anyone used the Happ ones?
>>>
>>> sasha.
>>>
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From: "evan.raskob" <lists@lowfrequency.org>
Date: September 23, 2005 5:41:04 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: sweet pic
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

sums it all up

http://www.flickr.com/photos/djm/45842572/?#comment12551498


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From: Shawn Van Every <vanevery@walking-productions.com>
Date: September 23, 2005 5:52:42 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: MNN position opening
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Michael Eisenmenger <michael@mnn.org>
> Date: August 29, 2005 9:33:34 AM EDT
> To: <michael@mnn.org>
> Subject: MNN position opening
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Below is a new position opening at MNN in the Community Media  
> Department (in
> addition to the IT position - see http://mnn.org/positionIT.html  
> for that
> one).
>
> Please forward . . .
>
> Michael
>
> ----------
>
>
> Manhattan Neighborhood Network
> 537 West 59th Street
> New York, NY 10019
>
> POSITION: Community Outreach and Media Specialist
>
> REPORTS TO: Director of Outreach and Community Media
>
> POSTING DATE: August 18, 2005. We will begin to review applications on
> September 8th and continue until the position is filled.
>
> GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF JOB:
> The C.O.M.S. provides outreach on behalf of MNN, designs,  
> implements and
> facilitates training projects, facilitates community based production
> activities, administers, monitors and mentors the Community Media  
> Grants,
> and works to strengthen the effectiveness of community media  
> efforts in the
> borough of Manhattan.
>
> OVERALL RESPONSIBILITIES:
> 1. Community outreach and community media organizing,
> 2. Grants administration.
> 3. Community Media production/post-production training,  
> facilitation and
> development.
> 4. Community-based production activities.
>
> SPECIFIC DUTIES:
> 1. Outreach to Manhattan based community organizations, encourage/ 
> facilitate
> utilization of MNNs public access resources.
> 2. Consult, facilitate, train and mentor community based and grant
> organizations in video production.
> 3. Administrate MNN's Community Media Grants, including monitoring,
> mentoring and reporting.
> 4. Plan and facilitate community media workshops, seminars,  
> critical issues
> forums, screenings and other events to develop/support community media
> efforts in the borough.
> 5. Facilitate and participate in grant review process.
> 6. Other projects as assigned.
>
> QUALIFICATIONS:
> 1. Community organizing or other experience in not for profit,  
> community
> based, development, cultural and/or public interest organizations.
> 2. Training/facilitation experience, especially in the area of adult
> education.
> 3. Grant development, administration and evaluation experience.
> 4. Awareness of the role of media within a community development/media
> justice context.
> 5. Good organizational skills, ability to work with limited  
> supervision as
> well as work collectively and collaboratively.
> 6. Excellent oral and written communication skills.
> 7. Solid video production and post-production expertise in both  
> single and
> multi-camera environments is a plus.
> 8. Ability to work with basic office/database software.
> 9. Bi-lingual, Spanish/English a plus.
> 10. Must be able to carry production equipment up to 30lbs.
> 11. Position may require some evening and weekend work hours.
>
> TO APPLY: Please email resume and cover letter to grants@mnn.org  
> (Subject:
> Position). No calls please.
>
> ABOUT MNN:
> Manhattan Neighborhood Network is one of the countrys largest  
> public access
> media centers, providing access to communication technologies,  
> training,
> facilities and channel space on a fair and equitable basis to  
> Manhattans
> 1.5 million residents. MNN administers four Public Access channels  
> on both
> the Time Warner and RCN cable systems, reaching an audience of more  
> than a
> half million households, as well as streaming programming live on the
> internet. In addition to programming four channels of public access
> programming 24 hours per day, MNN programs also include the nationally
> recognized Youth Channel, and a Community Media grants program that  
> assists
> non-profits and community based organizations with grants of  
> equipment,
> training and support.
>
> MNNs services are grounded in and support First Amendment freedom  
> of
> speech, media justice, and public interest values, and are focused on
> contributing to and maintaining a vital and robust marketplace of  
> ideas
> and encouraging broad participation of citizens in the civic and  
> cultural
> life of communities of Manhattan. MNN has an annual operating  
> budget of
> $3,500,000 and a full-time staff of 45. MNN is governed by a 16- 
> member Board
> of Directors.
>
> Manhattan Neighborhood Network is an equal opportunity employer and
> considers all applications without regard to race, color, religion,  
> creed,
> gender, national origin, age, disability, marital or veteran  
> status, sexual
> orientation, or any other legally protected status.
>
>


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From: Sasha Harris-Cronin <sasha@mortalspaces.com>
Date: September 23, 2005 5:54:13 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Oct 1: Sasha Birthday Drinks at Lotus Club, NYC
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I'm coming back into NYC for a few days right around my 30th birthday  
and decided that I need to celebrate it in NYC.  So everyone should  
come out and help me.  Make it an ANO, make it a birthday, make it an  
excuse to invite someone out on a date.  I don't mind.  Either way, I  
will be at:

The Lotus Lounge
35 Clinton St
8 pm ->

Hope to see lots o peops.

sash.

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From: jonathan goldstein <jg956@nyu.edu>
Date: September 24, 2005 10:11:11 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Green Day Katrina Vlog Mashup
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Fellow vlogger Zadi Diaz just did a heartwrenching mashup of video  
set to
the score of a Green Day song. Worth a look.

http://smashface.com/vlog/2005/09/wake-me-up-when-september-ends.html

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From: Joseph J Versoza <jjv222@nyu.edu>
Date: September 24, 2005 4:12:14 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Frisbee... Prospect Park at 5!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Short notice... but we're playing ultimate frisbee today at Prospect
Park by the Picnic House at around 5.  Get outside while the weather is
still nice!



Joe

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From: lia bulaong <lia@bulaong.com>
Date: September 24, 2005 6:54:49 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: linotype fontexplorer x
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

For those of us who have ten zillion fonts and can't stand any of the  
current tools:
http://www.linotype.com/fontexplorerX/

Plus: it's free! Whee!

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From: Jeff Gray <jeff@grayfuse.com>
Date: September 24, 2005 8:12:08 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: linotype fontexplorer x
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

for the PC users out there, http://members.ozemail.com.au/~scef/tft.html

Very similar interface, also free.

J

lia bulaong wrote:

> For those of us who have ten zillion fonts and can't stand any of  
> the current tools:
> http://www.linotype.com/fontexplorerX/
>
> Plus: it's free! Whee!
>
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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 23, 2005 5:40:27 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: software on ebay?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

anyone ever purchase software on ebay?

there are cheaper versions of some new software there, being sold by  
'authorized resellers'.  just wondering if anyone's ever done this  
before, and if they ever had any licensing or future upgrading  
problems or anything....?

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From: "Howard Greenstein (public)" <public@howardgreenstein.com>
Date: September 24, 2005 8:56:53 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: software on ebay?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Bought stuff for the kids from an amazon merchant. No box, but the  
software was in its jewel case and worked fine.

eric socolofsky wrote:

> anyone ever purchase software on ebay?
>
> there are cheaper versions of some new software there, being sold  
> by  'authorized resellers'.  just wondering if anyone's ever done  
> this  before, and if they ever had any licensing or future  
> upgrading  problems or anything....?
>
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From: charlyn zlotnik <charlyn@czfiles.com>
Date: September 24, 2005 9:57:35 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: software on ebay?
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At 5:40 PM -0400 9/23/05, eric socolofsky wrote:
> anyone ever purchase software on ebay?
>
> there are cheaper versions of some new software there, being sold  
> by 'authorized resellers'.  just wondering if anyone's ever done  
> this before, and if they ever had any licensing or future upgrading  
> problems or anything....?
>
Never bought from"auth.res", just some individuals.  Read between the  
lines and ask lots of questions before regarding whether or not it  
has been registered (if that matters), transfer of
license (adobe allows, but not for academic), etc. etc.

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From: Daniel H Palkowski <daniel.palkowski@nyu.edu>
Date: September 24, 2005 9:22:03 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: software on ebay?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

lots of legit stores use ebay nowdays, because they know that's where
people look for bargains....but buying software on auction would be
ill advised...make sure it's listed as unopened in box, etc

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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: Friday, September 23, 2005 5:40 pm
Subject: software on ebay?

> anyone ever purchase software on ebay?
>
> there are cheaper versions of some new software there, being sold
> by
> 'authorized resellers'.  just wondering if anyone's ever done this
>
> before, and if they ever had any licensing or future upgrading
> problems or anything....?
>
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From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@eds.org>
Date: September 25, 2005 8:50:45 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Madagascar Institute presents: Cargo Cult
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


The Madagascar Institute Presents:

Cargo Cult

Being: The culmination of years of hard labor and brutal ritual, the
final push that will get the runway done, the ancestors pleased, the
planes back, and delivered to us the abundant cargo that we so, so  
deserve;
featuring: merchant marines, brazen brass, exceedingly clever flying
machines, cardboard communication, synchronized semaphore, lighthouses,
ropework, Melanesia, control towers, morse code, dazzling displays of
ritual dance, arbitrary and capricious blood letting, sacred Jello, red
crosses, gigantic, gimpy John Frum, sea chanteys, and your helping hands
when they are needed the most.

or:

an elaborate ruse for a tramway escape to a desolate island paradise.

Beware of swashbuckling pirates, unsympathetic Red Cross workers, and  
John
Frum.  If you follow the signs and complete the ritual, you will be
amply rewarded for your faith.

Don your WWII flight suit (or similarly inspired attire), brush up on
your semaphore signals...
and chart a course for 14 Honey Locusts Park, at 59th St. betw. 1st
Ave and 2nd Ave in Manhattan.

Sunday, October 2, 4:00 pm. You will be done at dark.

Watch for the arrival of the Vanuatu Air Fleet for your first clue.
Be late and you will miss it.

Bring libations, a Metro card and be prepared to walk.

Afterparty at the Carriage House, 59th St. Bet 2nd & 3rd Ave.


From: sameer kapoor <indianidol@gmail.com>
Date: September 25, 2005 10:10:42 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Also seeking book editor
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hey again

He also mentioned that he is looking for an experienced book editor.  
He is especially interested in someone who has dealt with science  
topics before. Where are the best places to find such people on-line ?

thanks

Sameer


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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Vica Vinogradova  
<vica@ladno.com>
Date: September 25, 2005 2:44:43 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Komen Race for the Cure this morning
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


Peoples - I participated in my first Race for the Cure this morning, and
it was a truly amazing experience.
Very powerful to see so many people support the cause, and hear breast
cancer survivors tell real stories.

Part of the effort is fund raising (which I've never done before), so
here is my humble request to support me by pledging some $$ for The Race
for the Cure. All proceedes go to breast cancer research.

I ran with the Team "100 Women in Hedge Funds", and raised almost $2,000
to date (the team raised almost $40,000).
The drive continues though October 31, 2005. So, if you feel like
supporting this - here is my page.
http://www.komennyc.org/site/TR?pg=personal&JServSessionIdr011=uqiy5szbs
1.app7a&fr_id=1120&px=1158369

Thanks in advance, and sorry for being loud. This is a good cause, and I
believe in it. (And I actually RAN all 5K. :)

Yours,
Vica (Vinogradova) Miller


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From: Dana Karwas <dlk253@nyu.edu>
Date: September 25, 2005 11:15:32 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: dvd/cd printing
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Does anyone know of a good place to get custom graphics printed  
directly onto blank dvd/cd media?



thanks
dana




From: Daniel Raffel <sumbits@thincvox.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 1:26:04 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Meetup @ CTIA in SF?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I'm in SF this week attending CTIA.  If any other ITP Alum will be  
attending the conference please contact me off the list and lets try  
to hookup.  Regards, Daniel

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From: Christine Brumback <boomer@nyu.edu>
Date: September 24, 2005 9:55:29 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: advice: adopting a kitten
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hi all,

Growing up I always had dogs. Now, my dog really wants a kitten.  
There happen to be some up for adoption and I think I'm finally ready.

What do I need to get ready for him/her? What should I expect with a  
4 week old ( and older) kitten?  I know that he/she is used to being  
around a big dog ( their current home has one).

I am doing other research but know there are many cat people out  
there on the list...  thanks for any advice

Cb
********************************
Christine Brumback
Adjunct Professor, NYU ITP
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From: Susan Jacobson <susanjacobson@gmail.com>
Date: September 24, 2005 10:43:09 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: advice: adopting a kitten
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hi there,

First of all, this may come as a surprise to you, but it's true: Two  
kittens are better than one. One kitten has a huge amount of energy.  
If the energy does not have an outlet, the kitten takes it out on  
you, your furniture, your fragile objects, etc. Another kitten is the  
perfect balance for a single kitten.

Second, you want to take your kitty to the vet as soon as possible to  
get his or her tested for a variety of cat diseases (starting with  
FeLV) and vaccinated against others (like distemper). You probably  
want to put your kitten on flea medication, even if kitty will not be  
going outside. You want a nice roomy litter box that is located away  
from his or her food dish. When you bring the kitten home, dump him  
or her into the litter box. The kitten will jump out immediately, but  
from that point on, the kitten's exploration of your home will be  
based on how far everything is from the litter box!

sj

On 9/24/05, Christine Brumback <boomer@nyu.edu> wrote:
Hi all,

Growing up I always had dogs. Now, my dog really wants a kitten. There
happen to be some up for adoption and I think I'm finally ready.

What do I need to get ready for him/her? What should I expect with a 4
week old ( and older) kitten?I know that he/she is used to being
around a big dog ( their current home has one).

I am doing other research but know there are many cat people out there
on the list...thanks for any advice

Cb
********************************
Christine Brumback
Adjunct Professor, NYU ITP
********************************


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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: eric socolofsky  
<eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 24, 2005 8:33:58 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: advice: adopting a kitten
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

First of all, this may come as a surprise to you, but it's true: Two  
kittens are better than one. One kitten has a huge amount of energy.  
If the energy does not have an outlet, the kitten takes it out on  
you, your furniture, your fragile objects, etc. Another kitten is the  
perfect balance for a single kitten.

tho if the dog is good with cats, they could entertain each  
other...maybe ;)

you should also make sure your cat's claws are trimmed. a cat can  
really mess up a dog if things get rough. start trimming your  
kitty's claws right away, if you wait, he/she'll never get used to  
you messing with his/her paws. just in general, handle your cat a  
lot when it's young, and it'll be friendlier when as it ages.

i think cats are more territorial than dogs, but i know that it's  
recommended when you move a cat in with a cat to keep the new cat  
confined for a few days so the current cat knows it's still in  
charge. prolly not as important with a dog and a kitten.  
definitely keep the food dishes in separate places at first.

when it comes down to it, tho, cats and dogs aren't really very  
different. just like puppies, kittens have a LOT of energy. they  
eat a lot when they really start growing. you can train em the same  
way, positive reinforcement/pavlov-style. etc.

-e

On Sep 24, 2005, at 10:43 AM, Susan Jacobson wrote:
Hi there,

First of all, this may come as a surprise to you, but it's true: Two  
kittens are better than one. One kitten has a huge amount of energy.  
If the energy does not have an outlet, the kitten takes it out on  
you, your furniture, your fragile objects, etc. Another kitten is the  
perfect balance for a single kitten.

Second, you want to take your kitty to the vet as soon as possible to  
get his or her tested for a variety of cat diseases (starting with  
FeLV) and vaccinated against others (like distemper). You probably  
want to put your kitten on flea medication, even if kitty will not be  
going outside. You want a nice roomy litter box that is located away  
from his or her food dish. When you bring the kitten home, dump him  
or her into the litter box. The kitten will jump out immediately, but  
from that point on, the kitten's exploration of your home will be  
based on how far everything is from the litter box!

sj

On 9/24/05, Christine Brumback <boomer@nyu.edu> wrote:
Hi all,

Growing up I always had dogs. Now, my dog really wants a kitten. There
happen to be some up for adoption and I think I'm finally ready.

What do I need to get ready for him/her? What should I expect with a 4
week old ( and older) kitten?I know that he/she is used to being
around a big dog ( their current home has one).

I am doing other research but know there are many cat people out there
on the list...thanks for any advice

Cb
********************************
Christine Brumback
Adjunct Professor, NYU ITP
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From: Lisa Pedicini <lisa.pedicini@verizon.net>
Date: September 24, 2005 8:51:50 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: advice: adopting a kitten
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I envy you. My cat so does not want a dog. She's very loving and  
affectionate with my kids, even the one who arrived after her, but  
every time I have some one else's cat or dog over for a short term  
stay, my cat is miserable.

I was told to actually shut her up in the room with the litter box  
for her first hour in the apartment. Didn't seem like a very  
hospitable welcome, but it definitely worked for her and has worked  
for visitor cats as well. Maybe also put in that first hour room  
something impregnated with the dog's smell, like a blanket. It may be  
easier to get used to the dog's smell before getting used to the live  
dog.

Kittens love toys, especially fur-like mouse toys and small balls.

You could show both pets The Adventures of Milo and Otis over and  
over for the first few weeks of the new relationship. Even if your  
dog and new kitten don't learn anything about companionship from the  
film, you are sure to enjoy it.

Hi all,

Growing up I always had dogs. Now, my dog really wants a kitten.  
There happen to be some up for adoption and I think I'm finally ready.

What do I need to get ready for him/her? What should I expect with a  
4 week old ( and older) kitten? I know that he/she is used to being  
around a big dog ( their current home has one).

I am doing other research but know there are many cat people out  
there on the list... thanks for any advice

Cb
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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: John Heartfield  
<jheartfield@rcn.com>
Date: September 25, 2005 10:34:02 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: advice: adopting a kitten
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


I have to agree with Susan. Two cats are always better than one,  
especially when
they're kittens.

However, it's also very wise to adopt slightly older cats. For  
example, you'll
never really know if two kittens will bond.

However, if you go to Ollie's Place on 23rd and 2nd, you'll find  
pairs of cats that
have bonded strongly through their difficulties in the beginning of  
their lives.
They are usually about 1-2 years old.

A stray cat often has more trust and more love to give because of the  
new
special treatment they're receiving.

Check it out.




---- Original message ----
> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:43:09 -0400
> From: Susan Jacobson <susanjacobson@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: advice: adopting a kitten
> To: "ITP Alumni" <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
>
>   Hi there,
>
>   First of all, this may come as a surprise to you,
>   but it's true: Two kittens are better than one. One
>   kitten has a huge amount of energy. If the energy
>   does not have an outlet, the kitten takes it out on
>   you, your furniture, your fragile objects, etc.
>   Another kitten is the perfect balance for a single
>   kitten.
>
>   Second, you want to take your kitty to the vet as
>   soon as possible to get his or her tested for a
>   variety of cat diseases (starting with FeLV) and
>   vaccinated against others (like distemper). You
>   probably want to put your kitten on flea medication,
>   even if kitty will not be going outside.  You want a
>   nice roomy litter box that is located away from his
>   or her food dish. When you bring the kitten home,
>   dump him or her into the litter box. The kitten will
>   jump out immediately, but from that point on, the
>   kitten's exploration of your home will be based on
>   how far everything is from the litter box!
>
>   sj
>
>   On 9/24/05, Christine Brumback <boomer@nyu.edu>
>   wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     Growing up I always had dogs. Now, my dog really
>     wants a kitten. There
>     happen to be some up for adoption and I think I'm
>     finally ready.
>
>     What do I need to get ready for him/her? What
>     should I expect with a 4
>     week old ( and older) kitten?  I know that he/she
>     is used to being
>     around a big dog ( their current home has one).
>
>     I am doing other research but know there are many
>     cat people out there
>     on the list...  thanks for any advice
>
>     Cb
>     ********************************
>     Christine Brumback
>     Adjunct Professor, NYU ITP
>     ********************************
>
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From: Susan Jacobson <susanjacobson@gmail.com>
Date: September 25, 2005 11:47:06 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: advice: adopting a kitten
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

And I agree with John! I got my cat, the famous Scrunch the Cat  
(famous in West Philly for his rescue by a famous West Philadelphian  
who published the saga on his Web site) as a stray. He is the best  
cat. He has a worldwide fan club, I have a blog set up for him here:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/scrunch_the_cat

sj

On 9/25/05, John Heartfield <jheartfield@rcn.com> wrote:

I have to agree with Susan. Two cats are always better than one,  
especially when
they're kittens.

However, it's also very wise to adopt slightly older cats. For  
example, you'll
never really know if two kittens will bond.

However, if you go to Ollie's Place on 23rd and 2nd, you'll find  
pairs of cats that
have bonded strongly through their difficulties in the beginning of  
their lives.
They are usually about 1-2 years old.

A stray cat often has more trust and more love to give because of the  
new
special treatment they're receiving.

Check it out.




---- Original message ----
 >Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:43:09 -0400
 >From: Susan Jacobson <susanjacobson@gmail.com>
 >Subject: Re: advice: adopting a kitten
 >To: "ITP Alumni" < itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
 >
 > Hi there,
 >
 > First of all, this may come as a surprise to you,
 > but it's true: Two kittens are better than one. One
 > kitten has a huge amount of energy. If the energy
 > does not have an outlet, the kitten takes it out on
 > you, your furniture, your fragile objects, etc.
 > Another kitten is the perfect balance for a single
 > kitten.
 >
 > Second, you want to take your kitty to the vet as
 > soon as possible to get his or her tested for a
 > variety of cat diseases (starting with FeLV) and
 > vaccinated against others (like distemper). You
 > probably want to put your kitten on flea medication,
 > even if kitty will not be going outside.You want a
 > nice roomy litter box that is located away from his
 > or her food dish. When you bring the kitten home,
 > dump him or her into the litter box. The kitten will
 > jump out immediately, but from that point on, the
 > kitten's exploration of your home will be based on
 > how far everything is from the litter box!
 >
 > sj
 >
 > On 9/24/05, Christine Brumback < boomer@nyu.edu>
 > wrote:
 >
 > Hi all,
 >
 > Growing up I always had dogs. Now, my dog really
 > wants a kitten. There
 > happen to be some up for adoption and I think I'm
 > finally ready.
 >
 > What do I need to get ready for him/her? What
 > should I expect with a 4
 > week old ( and older) kitten?I know that he/she
 > is used to being
 > around a big dog ( their current home has one).
 >
 > I am doing other research but know there are many
 > cat people out there
 > on the list...thanks for any advice
 >
 > Cb
 > ********************************
 > Christine Brumback
 > Adjunct Professor, NYU ITP
 > ********************************
 >
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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Christopher Sung  
<sung@wholenote.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 2:36:48 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: advice: adopting a kitten
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

If you're set on the 4-week old kitten, then none of this is particular
applicable.  If not, my girlfriend has 2 cats she's adopted from  
shelters,
worked in several animal advocacy orgs, and has told me a few things  
about
adoption over the years:

a) Adopt from a rescue org like North Shore Animal League, CACC, City
Critters, or the like

http://www.nsalamerica.org/
http://www.nycacc.org
http://www.citycritters.org/

1500-2000 cats are euthanized at the CACC alone every month because of
overpopulation.

2) As cute as they are, kittens are an unknown quantity, and their
personalities can change drastically as they  age.  Older cats  
(>2yrs) are a
more accurate reflection of how they will behave in the future.   
Also, older
cats have a much harder time getting adopted in general.

iii) If the cat isn't already, spay/neuter, spay/neuter, spay/neuter.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christine Brumback [mailto:boomer@nyu.edu]
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 9:55 AM
To: ITP Alumni
Subject: advice: adopting a kitten


Hi all,

Growing up I always had dogs. Now, my dog really wants a kitten. There
happen to be some up for adoption and I think I'm finally ready.

What do I need to get ready for him/her? What should I expect with a 4
week old ( and older) kitten?  I know that he/she is used to being
around a big dog ( their current home has one).

I am doing other research but know there are many cat people out there
on the list...  thanks for any advice

Cb
********************************
Christine Brumback
Adjunct Professor, NYU ITP
********************************


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From: "Christina T. Goodness" <goodness@nyu.edu>
Date: September 26, 2005 10:24:40 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Conference: International Workshop on Wireless and Mobile  
Technologies in Education
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Deadline for early registration is October 20th, 2005.

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Third IEEE International Workshop on Wireless and Mobile Technologies in
Education
(WMTE 2005)
November 28-30, 2005, Tokushima Japan
Web site: http://lttf.ieee.org/wmte2005/
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* Keynote speakers

    Gerhard Fischer,  University of Colorado, Boulder, USA

    Claire O'Malley, University of  Nottingham, UK

    Ken Sakamura & Noboru Koshizuka, University of Tokyo, Japan

    http://piano.is.tokushima-u.ac.jp/WMTE05/content/keynote- 
speakers.html



* List of Accepted papers
    http://piano.is.tokushima-u.ac.jp/WMTE05/content/ 
accepted_papers.html


* Registration form:
    http://lttf.ieee.org/wmte2005/content/registration.html


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From: miriam songster <itplist@songster.net>
Date: September 26, 2005 1:09:51 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: iMovie transitions
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Is there any way to get an iMovie cross fade to last more than 4  
seconds?
-m



From: "Howard Greenstein (public)" <public@howardgreenstein.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 11:12:33 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: iMovie transitions
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

What version of iMovie? How long are the clips you're fading?

miriam songster wrote:

> Is there any way to get an iMovie cross fade to last more than 4  
> seconds?
> -m
>
>
>

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From: Yury Gitman <yuryg@mac.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 11:36:08 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: www.tropolism.com
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hi All,

A friend of mine just launched a new Architecture and Urbanism blog.   
He's an accomplished architect and witty writer.  If architecture,  
urbanism, and it's emergent technologies are your thing, I'm sure  
you'll enjoy it.  Architecture isn't my thing..., but I still spent  
the morning reading it....  : p

http://www.tropolism.com/

best,
Yury G

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From: Inhye Lee <inhye.lee@nyu.edu>
Date: September 26, 2005 10:16:40 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: q: Physical computing class - continuing education level?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Is there any school(non-degree programs) in new york that provides
physical computing related classes?

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From: joshua goldberg <josh@goldbergs.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 10:24:19 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: q: Physical computing class - continuing education level?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

harvestworks, sometimes.  eyebeam, sometimes.

On Sep 26, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Inhye Lee wrote:

> Is there any school(non-degree programs) in new york that provides
> physical computing related classes?
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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 11:54:09 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: q: Physical computing class - continuing education level?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

pratt offers a semester-long course, but it's not in the CGIM dept, i  
think it's in sculpture?

On Sep 26, 2005, at 10:24 AM, joshua goldberg wrote:

> harvestworks, sometimes.  eyebeam, sometimes.
>
> On Sep 26, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Inhye Lee wrote:
>
>
>> Is there any school(non-degree programs) in new york that provides
>> physical computing related classes?
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From: brian maniere <bm563@nyu.edu>
Date: September 26, 2005 2:25:22 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: today show transcript (was: who is running the show)
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I'm back from vacation and obtained the transcript from the Today  
show during which it was stated that evacuation buses were delayed  
two days outside New Orleans waiting for an armed guard on each bus.

The transcript indicates that there was in fact a two delay delay  
evacuating the convention center, and that the delay was in order to  
find an armed guard for each bus.  However the report attributes the  
delay to the Governor of Louisiana, not the Bush Administration.  And  
while it seems logical that an "armed guard" would in this situation  
be a National Guard soldier with a semi-automatic weapon (as I  
stated), the report does not specify who the guard was supposed to  
be, or what weapon he or she was supposed to carry.  The NBC reporter  
also attributes the information about the delay to an unidentified  
bus driver, and the reason for the delay to an "unidentified"  
source.  ...So I guess I am not such a good journalist after all.   
Sorry for the confusion.

Nonetheless, this report indicates that the delay did happen, and for  
the ridiculous reason I stated.  I've been outside the country the  
past three weeks, so I've been out of the US media loop, but I  
haven't seen anyone picking up on this story of the delay aside from  
this mention on the Today show.  I hope this is not another example  
of an "unidentified" source providing false information.  But if the  
information is not false, shouldn't this be a much bigger story?

Anyway, here is the relevant segment of the Today Show transcript  
from Sunday September 4, with the key parts near the bottom,  
highlighted in bold:

*****

CAMPBELL BROWN, co-host (New Orleans):

It may be remembered as the most glaring example of how the federal,  
state and
local governments failed the poorest and most needy victims of  
Katrina, and
that was the New Orleans Convention Center.  It was supposed to be a  
safe
haven, and it turned into the shelter from hell.  People there were  
finally
evacuated late yesterday, as Don said, but their last day was a  
brutal one. And
we should warn you some of the pictures you're about to see may be  
disturbing.

They were dying, literally dying.  Almost a week at the New Orleans  
Convention
Center and no one came to help them, living in total filth, baking in  
the heat
without food, water or medicine.  Nine-year-old Charles Evans takes  
me by the
hand for a tour of this heartbreaking place.

Mr. CHARLES EVANS: They have several people died out here and, you  
know, I
don't want to become one of them.

BROWN: Like most people here, Charles and his family have been living  
outside.

Mr. EVANS: You want to go take a look over there?

BROWN: Yeah.

Mr. EVANS: OK, come on.

BROWN: He takes me to their spot on the sidewalk where he helps care  
for his
young cousins and sick grandmother.  They're down to just one can of  
formula
for the baby.  They had no food at all until the National Guard  
brought one
load in Friday.

Mr. EVANS: What do I need?  We need clothing, water, and food.  You  
know, but
they have several food, like several package of food, but it's not  
enough to
survive.  That's all.

BROWN: They are waiting to be evacuated, a promised pickup that hasn't
happened.  And Charles is losing hope.

Mr. EVANS: Like my grandmother says, they have more than enough buses  
why--why
not they coming and get us?

BROWN: But today will be the day, finally.

Unidentified Man #1: (Riding in SUV) The buses are coming
to...(unintelligible).

BROWN: People are told they'll have to walk three blocks to meet the  
buses, and
it is a long three blocks for the elderly...

Unidentified Woman #1: How can they walk?  Look at them, they in  
wheelchairs.
How can they walk?

BROWN: ...or if you're carrying all your possessions.

Unidentified Woman #2: Police won't help us.  We's tired of leaving  
things
behind.

BROWN: Any way they can, people make their way there only to find the  
few buses
that came have already left.

Can you guys explain to us what's going on?  Where are the buses?

Unidentified Soldier: Right now, ma'am, I couldn't tell you exactly  
where the
buses are.  The ones just left out, and I was told there were  
hundreds more
coming in.

BROWN: The National Guard troops just arrived last night and are  
doing the best
they can, but another delay is too much for some in the line.

Unidentified Man #2: She's a diabetic!  It's low or high.

*BROWN: These people have gone days without vital medicine.  At least  
this time
there is help.  Finally, the buses arrive.  We learn from one of the  
drivers
they had been sitting just 20 miles from New Orleans for the last two  
days,
told they couldn't yet move in.

Unidentified Man #3: I think it was just too dangerous to send these  
school
buses because the governor said they were going to have an armed  
guard on every
bus, and they didn't have people to put on the buses.

BROWN: Even with the looting that took place here, today it's hard to  
believe
armed guards might be needed for these passengers.
*
Unidentified Woman #3: Is it OK?

Unidentified Man #4: It's OK.  We're going to be all right.

BROWN: Some 10,000 people bused away with no idea where they're going.

*****


brian maniere wrote:

> It's good to check your sources.  I am not the original news source  
> (NBC was), and the original news source is not necessarily  
> infallible either.... I saw this on this morning's today show if  
> you can find the transcript for that.
>
> Sasha Harris-Cronin wrote:
>
>> If anyone can find written corroboration of this, I'd be very  
>> interested in
>> reading it.  (I don't doubt you, brian, I just want to read more.)
>>
>> sasha.
>>
>> Quoting brian maniere <bm563@nyu.edu>:
>>
>>> I just saw on NBC one reason the media is treating the people of  
>>> New Orleans like savages.  That guidance is coming from the Bush  
>>> administration.
>>>
>>> The thousands of people trapped in the Convention Center endured  
>>> conditions among the most horrific.
>>>
>>> NBC just reported the fleet of buses sent to evacuate these  
>>> people was ~held up for two days~ 20 miles outside New Orleans.
>>>
>>> Why?  Because the Bush adminstration wanted a soldier with a  
>>> semiautomatic rifle on each bus as protection against the  
>>> passengers.
>>>
>>> But they have run out of soldiers.
>>>
>>> The rescue was finally allowed to happen after the administration  
>>> realized this.
>>>
>>> The people were evacuated without incident.
>>>
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From: Jaime Villarreal <jesusjaime@gmail.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 3:39:52 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [eyecandy] narrative
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Any of you who took this thread seruosly, this sounds like a  
worthwhile place to direct your future arguments.

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Vjtheory book

++ EXTENDED DEADLINE ++

The deadline for synopsis has been extended to the 30th of November.


Since June we've received a very large amount of high quality
proposals. We are
therefore mailing everyone who has expressed an interest to let them
know that
we have extended the deadline for submiting a synopsis. This way we
intend to
have time to review the work so far and give contributors more time to
develop
work.

++ Timeline ++

+ Call for submissions  Deadline: 30th November 05

Synopsis/abstract 500 words
If possible please indicate the theoretical area where
the work is focused.

+ Initial selection based on synopsis/abstracts - 28th February 06,
contributors
will be informed as soon as possible after this date.

+ Deadline to send final papers: 30th April 06
Final papers between 3000 and 5000 words






++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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VJTheory Book
Philosophy and cultural theory of vjing and realtime interaction


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Editors: Ana Carvalho and Brendan Byrne
Narrative editors: Lara Houston and Paul Mumford


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Keywords; narrative, philosophy, psychoanalysis, cultural theory,
ephemeral,
performance, technology, aesthetics, politics, ethics, realtime
processing,
collaboration, integrating media.

During AVIT UK 05 there was a fantastic level of debate based on both
the theory
and practice of VJing and realtime interactive installations and the
questions
those practices raise.

Paul and Lara have been organizing Narrative Lab, a program of lectures,
screenings, performances and projects as a major strand since of AVITUK
since
2003. The group has been seeking to encourage debate, spark new work
arising
from theory and facilitate collaboration examining the territories of
narrative. Over the last two years the narrative Lab has hosted
lectures on
hypertextuality, meta narratives, psychogeography, screen aesthetics,
structuralism, process methodologies and various production techniques.

These theoretical debates have now expanded across many of the other
sessions.
What became apparent was the lack of written texts which attempt to
deal with
these questions which involves everybody's practice.
With this in mind we propose to gather a collection of articles and
essays which
begins to deal with these new media debates.

We see this volume as paralleling the early anthologies of film
criticism, such
as 'Movies and Methods' by Bill Nichols, containing a broad range of
analytical
perspectives relating to the new medium.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This is an invitation to submit a short synopsis, propose an article or
ideas to
be published as a book.

Please send it to the following e-mail address:
vjtheory@yahoo.co.uk

Aditional information:
+ Deadline for synopsis: 30th of November
Synopsis:500 words
If possible please indicate the theoretical area where the work is
focused.
+ Initial selection based on synopsis/abstracts - 28th February 06,
contributors
will be informed as soon as possible after this date.
+ Deadline to send final papers: 30th April 06
+ Final papers between 3000 and 5000 words

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Here are some suggested areas, please feel free to suggest your own:

1- Narrative and hyper narrative
+ The cultural position of narrative
+ Meaning in narrative
+ Narrative Structures
+ New narrative
+ Cognitive process and discourse\Narrative Practice

2- Ethics
+ Copyright and "copyleft" (the creative commons open source software
and gnu
licensing)
+ Cross cultural appropriation of imagery themes and content (sources
for video
and other visual assets and it's relation to the social)
+ Commercial sponsorship and market flooding

3- Real time processing and the problem of the "now"
+ Problem of the 'real' and the problem of the "now"
+ Internet realtime data

4- Collaboration and rhizomic relations
+ Vj <> Dj/ Network collaborations

5- Philosophical and cultural perspectives including
+ Phenomenology
+ Language and the body
+ Schizoanalysis
+ Semiology
+ Feminist analysis
+ Deleuzian movement\Image
+ Habermas and the relationships with cinema and theatre

6- Interaction
+ Public/ work interaction (how much should the interaction be apparent
to the
user of an installation for example)
+ Vj <> interaction

7- Software
+ Open source and proprietary software
+ Latest software developments and software in development
+ Software and ideas led production of work

8- Aesthetics
+ Moving wallpaper
+ The problem of the formal time/movement image
+ Control and the dispersal of control
+ Crafting the image and its relations
+ Abstract animation (e.g. Oscar Fischinger, Len Lye) and it's relation
to
reactive 3D modeling.
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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Benjamin Gonzalez  
<ben@mutednarrative.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 5:10:56 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Need to rent a good DV camera
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I need to rent a good DV camera, something like a Canon GL-1, GL-2,  
XL-2. Does anyone know where I could do this in the NYC area?

Thanks

Ben
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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: charlyn zlotnik  
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Date: September 26, 2005 11:44:46 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Attn: TV/electronics whiz
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


I have a tv/vhs  combo that has a great picture,
only problem is that it loses
power and turns off, now frequently.

Before I drag it into a taxi and off to the tv hospital,
I was wondering if that sounds like impending death and not worth  
repair?
Or something that could be fixed for less than the cost of a new tv?
thanks-

charlyn

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From: "Howard Greenstein (public)" <public@howardgreenstein.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 5:25:21 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Attn: TV/electronics whiz
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

How old is it? Life of consumer electronics is about 3 years or less.  
Pathetic, but that's what they'll tell you.
I've had TVs with good pictures repaired but the cost of a new one  
can sometimes be less than what you'll pay to repair. Understand the  
repair shop's 'bench charge' before you go there. Some apply the 50/75 
$ fee to 'look at it' towards the repair, some don't.

Howard

charlyn zlotnik wrote:

>
> I have a tv/vhs  combo that has a great picture,
> only problem is that it loses
> power and turns off, now frequently.
>
> Before I drag it into a taxi and off to the tv hospital,
> I was wondering if that sounds like impending death and not worth  
> repair?
> Or something that could be fixed for less than the cost of a new tv?
> thanks-
>
> charlyn
>
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From: Edward Gordon <edward.gordon@nyu.edu>
Date: September 26, 2005 6:17:55 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Sound Person+Gaffer for Short Film Wanted
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Sound person & Gaffer needed for work on a short film:

I'm looking for a sound person for a short I'm producing in October,  
a comedic take on a traditional comic book film.  The shoot should be  
four days.  Salary is negotiable, but probably under scale, since our  
budget is low.  We are planning to submit the film to as many film  
festivals and distributors as we can, so we're looking for the best  
crew possible! Please forward this on to anybody you think would be  
interested, and if they want to contact me, I'll send them the  
script.  The shoot dates are Oct. 18th, 19th, 21st, 22nd.

Thanks!

Jenn Jones
jennmariejones@netzero.com

========================================================

  I'm looking for a gaffer for a short I'm producing in October, a  
comedic take on a traditional comic book film.  The shoot should be  
four days.  Salary is negotiable, but probably under scale, since our  
budget is low.  We are planning to submit the film to as many film  
festivals and distributors as we can, so we're looking for the best  
crew possible! Please forward this on to anybody you think would be  
interested, and if they want to contact me, I'll send them the  
script.  The shoot dates are Oct. 18th, 19th, 21st, 22nd.

Thanks!

Jenn Jones
jennmariejones@netzero.com


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From: Jonah Brucker-Cohen <jonah@coin-operated.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 6:04:38 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Website to PDF?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

does anyone know a way of exporting an entire website from Apple  
Safari to PDF format.. This would involve something like exporting  
every page of the site as a seperate PDF and then combining all of  
the pages in Preview or something? Is there an easy way to do this?

thnx
jonah

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From: "evan.raskob" <lists@lowfrequency.org>
Date: September 26, 2005 6:06:51 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Website to PDF?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

the easiest is by far File-->Print-->Save as PDF



On Sep 26, 2005, at 6:04 PM, Jonah Brucker-Cohen wrote:

> does anyone know a way of exporting an entire website from Apple  
> Safari to PDF format.. This would involve something like exporting  
> every page of the site as a seperate PDF and then combining all of  
> the pages in Preview or something? Is there an easy way to do this?
>
> thnx
> jonah
>
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From: Jonah Brucker-Cohen <jonah@coin-operated.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 6:19:41 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Website to PDF?
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cool that works as long as you choose "safari" under the "copies and  
pages" pulldown and make sure the background image option is selected..

thnx
jbc

> the easiest is by far File-->Print-->Save as PDF
>
>
>
> On Sep 26, 2005, at 6:04 PM, Jonah Brucker-Cohen wrote:
>
>> does anyone know a way of exporting an entire website from Apple  
>> Safari to PDF format.. This would involve something like exporting  
>> every page of the site as a seperate PDF and then combining all of  
>> the pages in Preview or something? Is there an easy way to do this?
>>
>> thnx
>> jonah
>>
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From: Gilad Rosner <roz@speakeasy.net>
Date: September 26, 2005 2:15:43 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Swap-O-Rama-Rama/Jonny Goldstein
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Man, that Jonny Goldstein is everywhere!

-g.

Wendy Tremayne <wendy@gaiatreehouse.com> wrote:
It's time... time to clean out your closets to find your unwanted  
clothing for Swap-O-Rama-Rama.
Mark your calendar, the swap is ...

Swap-O-Rama-Rama
Sunday October 9th, 2pm to 7pm
CSV Cultural Center107 Suffolk St. @ Rivington (one block above  
Delancey)
*bring a bag of your unwanted clothing + a $5.00 donation, leave with  
all the clothes you can carry*
http://gaiatreehouse.com/swap.htm

Dive in to the community process of creative reuse! Swap-O-Rama-Rama  
now features not just a giant swap pile of free clothes but a whole  
day of artist taught workshops where you can learn how to modify your  
new/used duds, and several on-site sewing stations with pro designers  
ready to teach you to cut, zip, nip, tuck, hack... transform!

What to Bring?Clothes ONLY, that includes jackets, wallets, hats,  
pants, shirts, skirts, shoes, gloves, belts, accessories, jewelry,  
sunglasses, bags, costumes, lingere, pjs etc. If you cant wear it,  
dont bring it.

Workshops
Mikey Sklar's RFID tag resistant pocket replacement:http:// 
gaiatreehouse.com/swapworkmsklar.htm
Alyce Santoro's Sonic Fabric patch it:http://gaiatreehouse.com/ 
swapasantoro.htm
Kate Sweater's Make your own plastic for bags and shoes
Blanka Amezkua's: Cut add replace sew assemble embroider .. It's  
You!http://gaiatreehouse.com/swapblanx.htm
and more...

Transform your new used wearables at the on site sewing stations and  
with help from costume designers Wheylan Ford andRieneke Redman- 
Akkerhuis and dont miss the finishing station where you can add every  
possible whistle and bell to your new duds with help from your own  
creative tinkerbell, Lina Puertahttp://gaiatreehouse.com/ 
swaplina.htm.

Entertainmentwill be abundant with Ringmaster of Ceremonies Viveca  
Gardnerhttp://gaiatreehouse.com/ 
swapvgardiner.htm,comedianJonny Goldsteinhttp:// 
www.jonnygoldstein.com/ and the one and onlyPRoF:!8o00%,http:// 
gaiatreehouse.com/swap8000.htm. There's also a video screening of  
Jess Dobkin's ReStored project:http://gaiatreehouse.com/ 
swapjdobkin.htm a recycled fashion show and loads of great prizes.

This swap is supported by a grant from the Black Rock Arts Foundation.

Ohhh la la, see you there,
Wendy Tremayne


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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: jonathan goldstein <jg956@nyu.edu>
Date: September 26, 2005 7:56:00 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Swap-O-Rama-Rama/Jonny Goldstein
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>>>> Man, that Jonny Goldstein is everywhere!

Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!! Seriously, this Swap-O-Rama thing should be
a great time, come clean the crap out of your closet and come on down!

http://gaiatreehouse.com/swap.htm

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From: Bill Swersey <bill@swersey.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 9:24:34 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: beautiful java application: baby name wizard
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Dont know if this has already made the rounds, but it is totally  
worth checking out:

http://babynamewizard.com/namevoyager/lnv0105.html

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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Sasha Harris-Cronin  
<sasha@mortalspaces.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 9:00:06 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Hyemi Cho info?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Anyone know Hyemi's info?  Where is she these days?

sash.

                     .. sasha harris-cronin ..
.. sasha@mortalspaces.com .. 415.516.2049..


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From: Lisa cohen <lisahcohen@gmail.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 9:44:12 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Hyemi Cho info?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hyemi just returned from Japan again.  She is fantastic and better
than ever.  She is still responding to hc371@nyu.edu.  Hi Sash!  :)



On 9/26/05, Sasha Harris-Cronin <sasha@mortalspaces.com> wrote:
> Anyone know Hyemi's info?  Where is she these days?
>
> sash.
>
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> .. sasha@mortalspaces.com .. 415.516.2049..
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From: betsy seder <betsyseder@yahoo.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 3:11:48 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Online donation tool?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Does anyone have any suggestions for an online tool that allows users to
donate to a non-profit?

This looks good, but the commissions are too high:
http://www.clickandpledge.com/

Thank you!!

-betsy


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From: Anitarah@aol.com
Date: September 26, 2005 3:53:57 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: Online donation tool?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I asked the same question lat month and these are some of the  
resources that were suggested:

http://www.affinityresources.com/pgs/awz55Online2.shtml

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

i had a non-profit client use
http://networkforgood.com
once, seemed pretty easy. dunno how much they charge.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: "Howard Greenstein (public)"  
<public@howardgreenstein.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 5:23:03 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Online donation tool?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Network for Good

You can open your own Verisign merchant account.

If the NFP uses BlackBaud Raisers' Edge they have a module you can  
buy that integrates pretty well, but there is some degree of manual  
work.

betsy seder wrote:

> Does anyone have any suggestions for an online tool that allows  
> users to
> donate to a non-profit?
>
> This looks good, but the commissions are too high:
> http://www.clickandpledge.com/
>
> Thank you!!
>
> -betsy
>
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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 9:23:03 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Online donation tool?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

http://networkforgood.org

On Sep 26, 2005, at 3:11 PM, betsy seder wrote:

> Does anyone have any suggestions for an online tool that allows  
> users to
> donate to a non-profit?
>
> This looks good, but the commissions are too high:
> http://www.clickandpledge.com/
>
> Thank you!!
>
> -betsy
>
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From: betsy seder <betsyseder@yahoo.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 8:20:53 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Online donation tool?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Thanks for your suggestions!!

on 9/26/05 9:23 PM, eric socolofsky at eric@transmote.com wrote:

> http://networkforgood.org
>
> On Sep 26, 2005, at 3:11 PM, betsy seder wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions for an online tool that allows
>> users to
>> donate to a non-profit?
>>
>> This looks good, but the commissions are too high:
>> http://www.clickandpledge.com/
>>
>> Thank you!!
>>
>> -betsy
>>
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From: Eun Jung Gonzalez <info@mutednarrative.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 9:49:01 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Fwd: Latest on GW Bush
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

A friend of mine sent me a link to this video.  Someone might have  
already posted it to the list, but here you go.
http://filmstripinternational.com/



From: Gilad Rosner <roz@speakeasy.net>
Date: September 27, 2005 10:10:57 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Get to know the Broadcast Flag!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Update on the Broadcast Flag:
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004000.php

Background on the Broadcast Flag:
http://www.eff.org/IP/Video/HDTV/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_flag

Short version: Broadcast Flag = DRM for TV, and potentially digital  
radio.

-g.


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From: Gilad Rosner <roz@speakeasy.net>
Date: September 17, 2005 9:58:38 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Circus Contraption... Go!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I just saw Circus Contraption last night, and it was fantastic.   
Wonderful
acts, incredible and fun original music, and a crew that obviously loved
what it was doing.  They're here till Oct. 1 at Theater for the New  
City.

http://www.circuscontraption.com/home.html

-g.
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From: mike connor <mike@rocketnumber9.org>
Date: September 27, 2005 10:14:16 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Circus Contraption... Go!
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a very loud 2nd to this.  This show is amazing.  It's dream-like,  
cartoon-like. It's over the top.  Fantastic music.  Great acts,  
sets.  Everything.

this is a big show coming all the way from Seattle- well worth the  
$20.   I'd say its'  as big as a broadway show. But much better.

if you plan to go to a pay what you want Wed., you might not get in.   
If you have a job, pay the $20 and go another night.   In any case, go!




On Sep 17, 2005, at 9:58 AM, Gilad Rosner wrote:

> I just saw Circus Contraption last night, and it was fantastic.   
> Wonderful
> acts, incredible and fun original music, and a crew that obviously  
> loved
> what it was doing.  They're here till Oct. 1 at Theater for the New  
> City.
>
> http://www.circuscontraption.com/home.html
>
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From: davila@media-matters.net
Date: September 27, 2005 10:31:59 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: Circus Contraption... Go!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

BTW, get there early. The shows have been selling out. Do it!

Dvila


> -----Original Message-----
> From: mike connor [mailto:mike@rocketnumber9.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:14 AM
> To: ITP Alumni
> Subject: Re: Circus Contraption... Go!
>
> a very loud 2nd to this.  This show is amazing.  It's dream-like,
> cartoon-like. It's over the top.  Fantastic music.  Great acts,
> sets.  Everything.
>
> this is a big show coming all the way from Seattle- well worth the
> $20.   I'd say its'  as big as a broadway show. But much better.
>
> if you plan to go to a pay what you want Wed., you might not get in.
> If you have a job, pay the $20 and go another night.   In any case,  
> go!
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2005, at 9:58 AM, Gilad Rosner wrote:
>
>> I just saw Circus Contraption last night, and it was fantastic.
>> Wonderful
>> acts, incredible and fun original music, and a crew that obviously
>> loved
>> what it was doing.  They're here till Oct. 1 at Theater for the New
>> City.
>>
>> http://www.circuscontraption.com/home.html
>>
>> -g.
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From: "Christina T. Goodness" <goodness@nyu.edu>
Date: September 27, 2005 11:40:43 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: EVENT: IEEE Symposium on Information Visualization
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


great topics such as trees and glyphs, social networks, and babynames
-c

                InfoVis 2005
         Eleventh Annual IEEE Symposium on
            Information Visualization

               Minneapolis, MN
              October 23-25, 2005

       http://www.infovis.org/infovis/2005

InfoVis is the primary meeting in the field of information
visualization and is held in conjunction with the IEEE Visualization
2005 (Vis05) conference.  Computer-based information visualization
centers around helping people explore or explain data through
interactive software that exploits the capabilities of the human
perceptual system.  The central design challenge in infovis is
designing a cognitively useful spatial mapping of a dataset that is
not inherently spatial.

This year InfoVis has expanded to three full days.  The InfoVis
Symposium is a single track conference with both an engaging technical
program and ample opportunities for interactions with colleagues and
friends.  The technical program includes research paper presentations,
posters, results of the annual InfoVis contest, and videos, which are
new this year.  This year, the symposium includes a panel on turning
information visualization innovations into commercial products and a
special panel remembering Steve Roth and his contributions to the
field.  Keynote and Capstone speakers are
- Jim Thomas, Pacific Northwest National Labs
   "Visual Analytics: a Grand Challenge in Science -
    Turning Information Overload into the Opportunity of the Decade"
- Nigel Holmes, Explanation Graphics
   "When to draw the line (and when not to)"

We hope that you can join us in Minneapolis!

John Stasko & Matt Ward
InfoVis 2005 Papers Co-Chairs

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From: Maia Marinelli <maiaitp@maiamarinelli.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 11:41:50 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Online voice mail
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phink.... i hve use it for a project of mine and if you like you can  
control it in apple script
On Sep 21, 2005, at 6:52 PM, Eric Fixler wrote:

> I'm looking for a voice mail service where I can:
>
> - Pick my own number
> - Download messages (i.e., I want to get the messages left for me  
> online, and not necessarily listen to them over the phone)
>
> Suggestions?
>
> eric
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From: Eric Fixler <fix@fixler.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 12:52:44 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Online voice mail
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I'm looking for a voice mail service where I can:

- Pick my own number
- Download messages (i.e., I want to get the messages left for me  
online, and not necessarily listen to them over the phone)

Suggestions?

eric

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From: marc maleh <mm1567@nyu.edu>
Date: September 23, 2005 1:19:10 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Online voice mail
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www.gotvmail.com
email voicemail, call forwarding...etc.
-m

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From: Alisa Schwartz <as919@nyu.edu>
Date: September 27, 2005 11:47:56 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Online voice mail
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Vonage

i use vonage and like the email notifications and attached recordings  
of the message.
there are great other features like call forwarding to mutliple  
locations and setting when the voicemail and call
forwarding should kick in.

Alisa

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From: "Nancy D. Lewis" <ndlewis@echonyc.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: Online voice mail

>
> I use Lovox for an organization I work with.  I could pick my area
> code(not the whole number).  They have an option where you can get
> an e-mail
> with messages attached.
>
> http://lovox.skyweb.net/main.htm
>
> Nancy
> ---------------
> Nancy D. Lewis
> ndlewis@echonyc.com
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From: "Nancy D. Lewis" <ndlewis@echonyc.com>
Date: September 21, 2005 1:40:53 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Online voice mail
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I use Lovox for an organization I work with.  I could pick my area code
(not the whole number).  They have an option where you can get an e-mail
with messages attached.

http://lovox.skyweb.net/main.htm

Nancy
---------------
Nancy D. Lewis
ndlewis@echonyc.com
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From: sameer kapoor <indianidol@gmail.com>
Date: September 25, 2005 10:08:09 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Book Illustrator questions
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Hello

A friend of mine is currently working on a book that will eventually  
require about 160 illustrations. What is the general rate that  
someone would charge for such a large job ? The illustrations deal  
with both science topics (physics, biology, etc.) and philosophy. He  
has already made schematics of all the drawings so all that would be  
needed is to take the schematics and turn them into more polished  
illustrations. Are there places one can go on-line to find book  
illustrators ? Anyone on this list feel like they might be up to this  
job ?

Thanks

Sameer

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Date: September 25, 2005 10:45:59 AM EDT
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Subject: Re: Book Illustrator questions
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I used to be an editor of children's books, and know that we always  
preferred that projects come to us without
illustrators attached. In other words, we liked to acquire  
manuscripts and then find an illustrator that we
thought would suit the project. Sometimes, projects would come in  
with illustrations already done, and
although the text was great and something we'd be interested in  
publishing, we would nonetheless turn the
project down because we didn't like the pictures. Which is a long way  
of saying: if your friend doesn't already
have a publisher for the project, perhaps s/he should find a  
publisher first and let the publisher (who probably
will have lots of connections to professional illustrators) hire the  
illustrator?

Elizabeth

----- Original Message -----
From: sameer kapoor <indianidol@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, September 25, 2005 10:08 am
Subject: Book Illustrator questions

> Hello
>
> A friend of mine is currently working on a book that will
> eventually require
> about 160 illustrations. What is the general rate that someone
> would charge
> for such a large job ? The illustrations deal with both science topics
> (physics, biology, etc.) and philosophy. He has already made
> schematics of
> all the drawings so all that would be needed is to take the
> schematics and
> turn them into more polished illustrations. Are there places one
> can go
> on-line to find book illustrators ? Anyone on this list feel like
> they might
> be up to this job ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Sameer
>
>
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From: "jack . davis" <jack@panix.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 7:55:22 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Book Illustrator questions
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Of course one could always find existing illustrations and just pay for
permission to use them.

> Hello
>
> A friend of mine is currently working on a book that will eventually
> require
> about 160 illustrations. What is the general rate that someone would
> charge
> for such a large job ? The illustrations deal with both science topics
> (physics, biology, etc.) and philosophy. He has already made  
> schematics of
> all the drawings so all that would be needed is to take the  
> schematics and
> turn them into more polished illustrations. Are there places one  
> can go
> on-line to find book illustrators ? Anyone on this list feel like they
> might
> be up to this job ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Sameer
>
>
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From: i r e n a <voidit@verizon.net>
Date: September 26, 2005 10:32:15 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Book Illustrator questions
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hi Sameer,

i have a lot of books designed and published with my illustrations  
and currently illustrating more.
i may have a lot of answers to many questions about that subject.
email me off the list if you didn't find yours.

--i.

sameer kapoor wrote:
Hello

A friend of mine is currently working on a book that will eventually  
require about 160 illustrations. What is the general rate that  
someone would charge for such a large job ? The illustrations deal  
with both science topics (physics, biology, etc.) and philosophy. He  
has already made schematics of all the drawings so all that would be  
needed is to take the schematics and turn them into more polished  
illustrations. Are there places one can go on-line to find book  
illustrators ? Anyone on this list feel like they might be up to this  
job ?

Thanks

Sameer

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Date: September 26, 2005 3:42:11 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: Book Illustrator questions
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I agree that it would be easier to get it published if the  
illustrations didn't come as a packaged deal. However, that  
consideration aside, you may want to consider going through Displaced  
Designer, http://www.displaceddesigner.com/help/request, a site set  
up through AIGA for folks in the graphic arts community who have been  
displaced by the hurricane.

-p

On Sep 25, 2005, at 10:45 AM, A Elizabeth Mikesell wrote:

> I used to be an editor of children's books, and know that we always  
> preferred that projects come to us without
> illustrators attached. In other words, we liked to acquire  
> manuscripts and then find an illustrator that we
> thought would suit the project. Sometimes, projects would come in  
> with illustrations already done, and
> although the text was great and something we'd be interested in  
> publishing, we would nonetheless turn the
> project down because we didn't like the pictures. Which is a long  
> way of saying: if your friend doesn't already
> have a publisher for the project, perhaps s/he should find a  
> publisher first and let the publisher (who probably
> will have lots of connections to professional illustrators) hire  
> the illustrator?
>
> Elizabeth
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: sameer kapoor <indianidol@gmail.com>
> Date: Sunday, September 25, 2005 10:08 am
> Subject: Book Illustrator questions
>
>> Hello
>>
>> A friend of mine is currently working on a book that will
>> eventually require
>> about 160 illustrations. What is the general rate that someone
>> would charge
>> for such a large job ? The illustrations deal with both science  
>> topics
>> (physics, biology, etc.) and philosophy. He has already made
>> schematics of
>> all the drawings so all that would be needed is to take the
>> schematics and
>> turn them into more polished illustrations. Are there places one
>> can go
>> on-line to find book illustrators ? Anyone on this list feel like
>> they might
>> be up to this job ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Sameer
>>
>>
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From: Raymond L Cha <rlc223@nyu.edu>
Date: September 27, 2005 12:40:01 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Book Illustrator questions
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one to note as well, is that in terms of cost, illustrators charge by
use. So for a small printing they will charge you less than say an
illustration to be used in a national ad campaign.  You can buy rights
for a year, or other duration.

Most of the illustration agencices I have dealt with don't do science
illustrations, so you might want to search for someone who specializes
in that. Like a place like:
http://www.science-art.com/




----- Original Message -----
From: A Elizabeth Mikesell <elizabeth.mikesell@nyu.edu>
Date: Sunday, September 25, 2005 10:45 am
Subject: Re: Book Illustrator questions

> I used to be an editor of children's books, and know that we always
> preferred that projects come to us without
> illustrators attached. In other words, we liked to acquire
> manuscripts and then find an illustrator that we
> thought would suit the project. Sometimes, projects would come in
> with illustrations already done, and
> although the text was great and something we'd be interested in
> publishing, we would nonetheless turn the
> project down because we didn't like the pictures. Which is a long
> way of saying: if your friend doesn't already
> have a publisher for the project, perhaps s/he should find a
> publisher first and let the publisher (who probably
> will have lots of connections to professional illustrators) hire
> the illustrator?
>
> Elizabeth
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: sameer kapoor <indianidol@gmail.com>
> Date: Sunday, September 25, 2005 10:08 am
> Subject: Book Illustrator questions
>
>> Hello
>>
>> A friend of mine is currently working on a book that will
>> eventually require
>> about 160 illustrations. What is the general rate that someone
>> would charge
>> for such a large job ? The illustrations deal with both science
> topics> (physics, biology, etc.) and philosophy. He has already
> made
>> schematics of
>> all the drawings so all that would be needed is to take the
>> schematics and
>> turn them into more polished illustrations. Are there places one
>> can go
>> on-line to find book illustrators ? Anyone on this list feel like
>> they might
>> be up to this job ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Sameer
>>
>>
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From: Sasha Harris-Cronin <sasha@mortalspaces.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 12:48:32 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Sasha Birthday Correction!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I meant 10 pm -> at the Lotus Lounge!  Sorry for any confusion!

sash.

On Sep 23, 2005, at 2:54 PM, Sasha Harris-Cronin wrote:

> I'm coming back into NYC for a few days right around my 30th  
> birthday and decided that I need to celebrate it in NYC.  So  
> everyone should come out and help me.  Make it an ANO, make it a  
> birthday, make it an excuse to invite someone out on a date.  I  
> don't mind.  Either way, I will be at:
>
> The Lotus Lounge
> 35 Clinton St
> 8 pm ->
>
> Hope to see lots o peops.
>
> sash.
>
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From: Sasha Harris-Cronin <sasha@mortalspaces.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 12:59:53 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Sasha Birthday Correction 2!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I think I might be the lamest person ever.

Date = Oct 1.
The Lotus Lounge
35 Clinton St.
10 pm ->

sash.

On Sep 27, 2005, at 9:48 AM, Sasha Harris-Cronin wrote:

> I meant 10 pm -> at the Lotus Lounge!  Sorry for any confusion!
>
> sash.
>
> On Sep 23, 2005, at 2:54 PM, Sasha Harris-Cronin wrote:
>
>
>> I'm coming back into NYC for a few days right around my 30th  
>> birthday and decided that I need to celebrate it in NYC.  So  
>> everyone should come out and help me.  Make it an ANO, make it a  
>> birthday, make it an excuse to invite someone out on a date.  I  
>> don't mind.  Either way, I will be at:
>>
>> The Lotus Lounge
>> 35 Clinton St
>> 8 pm ->
>>
>> Hope to see lots o peops.
>>
>> sash.
>>
>>                     .. sasha harris-cronin ..
>> .. sasha@mortalspaces.com .. 415.516.2049..
>>
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From: IceColdVideo <icecoldvideo@gmail.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 1:17:15 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Lots of Openings, Euro 4D
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

"Euro RSCG 4D is the world's largest Direct and Digital agency  
network, with unparalleled sophistication in the ability to drive  
brand experience and sales results through promotion, merchandising,  
channel, retail, field and experiential marketing, all built on an  
intelligent approach to Data."

http://www.eurorscg4d.com

Open positions:
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Sr. Producer
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Please send resumes and cover letters to:
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Euro RSCG 4D - New York
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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: lia bulaong <lia@bulaong.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 1:55:08 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: the red cross money pit
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-op- 
redcross25sep25,1,5469775.story

Also: because of the Red Cross and Republicans, FEMA has decided to
reimburse faith groups for aid given during Katrina, wtf:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9495550/

"Volunteer labor is just that: volunteer," said the Rev. Robert E.
Reccord, president of the Southern Baptist Convention's North American
Mission Board. "We would never ask the government to pay for it."

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From: elliott <elliottmalkin@gmail.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 10:56:10 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: website download tool?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

hi, i was wondering if someone could recommend a tool that would
download an entire website to my hard drive, including jpg's & pdf's.
any ideas?
elliott

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From: Jeff Gray <jeff@grayfuse.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 2:48:30 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: website download tool?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

depending on how dynamic the site it, a program like WebSpider will  
do the trick.

Just do a search for freeware web spidering software and you'll find  
a couple.

J

elliott wrote:

> hi, i was wondering if someone could recommend a tool that would
> download an entire website to my hard drive, including jpg's & pdf's.
> any ideas?
> elliott
>
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From: Eric Fixler <fix@fixler.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 4:31:11 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: website download tool?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

wget



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From: dedi hubbard <dedi@kweerious.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 2:31:17 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: website download tool?
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On Sep 26, 2005, at 10:56 PM, elliott wrote:

> hi, i was wondering if someone could recommend a tool that would
> download an entire website to my hard drive, including jpg's & pdf's.
> any ideas?

wget (available on stage) has lots of options including -m for mirror

$ wget -m http://site.to.suck.down

that will follow every link, download all support files and more.   
check out the other options with

$ wget --help

or to be more old school try curl (comes with OSX).

.dd

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From: Jonah Brucker-Cohen <jonah@coin-operated.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 2:41:14 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Combine PDFs
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If anyone needs to paste together a bunch of PDFs into one document  
with OSX in the future,

CombinePDFs, a free app written in RealBasic works great

http://www.monkeybreadsoftware.de/Freeware/CombinePDFs.shtml

jbc

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From: Carlos J. Gmez de Llarena <informed44@gmail.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 2:50:45 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Job: Sr. Interaction Designer
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


EURO RSCG is looking for a Sr. Interaction Designer ASAP to kick off  
a creative web project involving avatars, AI, etc.
Get in contact with the Creative Director here, and let him know you  
read this email:
ken.hamm@eurorscg.com

Feel free to pass this info to people that may be interested.
They are also looking for Junior Interaction Designers so feel free  
to ask about other position(s).

Carlos.

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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: brian maniere <bm563@nyu.edu>
Date: September 27, 2005 2:27:59 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: please advise: motherboard repair
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

My laptop got fried running on generator power, and I am hoping I can  
resuscitate it by replacing the DC Power Board, which for my model of  
laptop (Dell Inspiron 8200) is a separate component attached to the  
motherboard.  I've obtained the replacement component and taken my  
laptop apart, but now I realize I could really use a tutorial before  
going any farther.  Does anyone know of a handy tutorial or a website  
that would be able to assist me?  This operation is fairly critical  
to me, so any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks very much!

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From: Gilad Rosner <roz@speakeasy.net>
Date: September 27, 2005 2:47:53 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: please advise: motherboard repair
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I think this is what you want:
http://docs.us.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins8200/en/index.htm

Specifically:
http://docs.us.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins8200/en/sm_en/ 
remove.htm#10
84976

-g.


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To: ITP Alumni
Subject: please advise: motherboard repair


My laptop got fried running on generator power, and I am hoping I can
resuscitate it by replacing the DC Power Board, which for my model of
laptop (Dell Inspiron 8200) is a separate component attached to the
motherboard.  I've obtained the replacement component and taken my
laptop apart, but now I realize I could really use a tutorial before
going any farther.  Does anyone know of a handy tutorial or a website
that would be able to assist me?  This operation is fairly critical to
me, so any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks very much!

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From: brian maniere <bm563@nyu.edu>
Date: September 27, 2005 2:54:19 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: please advise: motherboard repair
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

thanks very much.  i should have tried there first!

Gilad Rosner wrote:

> I think this is what you want:
> http://docs.us.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins8200/en/index.htm
>
> Specifically:
> http://docs.us.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins8200/en/sm_en/ 
> remove.htm#10
> 84976
>
> -g.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: brian maniere [mailto:bm563@nyu.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 2:28 PM
> To: ITP Alumni
> Subject: please advise: motherboard repair
>
>
> My laptop got fried running on generator power, and I am hoping I can
> resuscitate it by replacing the DC Power Board, which for my model of
> laptop (Dell Inspiron 8200) is a separate component attached to the
> motherboard.  I've obtained the replacement component and taken my
> laptop apart, but now I realize I could really use a tutorial before
> going any farther.  Does anyone know of a handy tutorial or a website
> that would be able to assist me?  This operation is fairly critical to
> me, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> thanks very much!
>
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From: Todd Polenberg <twina@interport.net>
Date: September 27, 2005 3:02:05 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: please advise: motherboard repair
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins8200/en/sm_en/ 
remove.htm#1084976

brian maniere wrote:

> My laptop got fried running on generator power, and I am hoping I  
> can resuscitate it by replacing the DC Power Board, which for my  
> model of laptop (Dell Inspiron 8200) is a separate component  
> attached to the motherboard.  I've obtained the replacement  
> component and taken my laptop apart, but now I realize I could  
> really use a tutorial before going any farther.  Does anyone know  
> of a handy tutorial or a website that would be able to assist me?   
> This operation is fairly critical to me, so any help would be  
> greatly appreciated.
>
> thanks very much!
>
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From: Joe Plotkin <heyjoe@bway.net>
Date: September 27, 2005 5:07:32 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Tomorrow night-> NYCwireless Meeting at ITP! (RSVP required)
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


NYCwireless September Meeting

TOMORROW--> Wednesday, September 28th, 2005 at 7:30pm sharp
NYU Interactive Telecommunications Program (ITP)
721 Broadway (at Waverly Place) Room 406

A special meeting:
Everyone is invited but **space is limited**
***  RSVP is required  ***
for building admission; please RSVP by Wed. 5pm to: joe@nycwireless.net

Agenda:
1. Wireless to the rescue: Restoring communications in Katrina's  
aftermath
Report By Dustin Goodwin and Terry Schmidt

2. Controlling Interference: Cognio introduces their spectrum  
analyzer, a tool to manage growing RF interference problems

=======================================

Terry Schmidt and Dustin Goodwin have just returned from providing  
wireless communications networks in the areas devastated by Katrina.

IP network, unlicensed wireless, and VOIP are incredibly flexible  
technology that can be used to deploy data and voice communication in  
ways not possible with traditional technology. Nowhere is this more  
apparent then in disaster zone where police, fire, and storm victims  
are cut off from the rest of the world. Learn how a Naval Post  
Graduate School, Cisco, Tachyon and Redline alliance along with a  
healthy does of motivated volunteers connected three Mississippi  
towns at ground Zero of Hurricane Katrina back into the  
communications grid in only a few days.

Terry and Dustin will present their first hand accounts, including  
photos, as well as the technologies used and why.

Terry Schmidt is a co-founder, board member, and former President of  
NYCwireless. Dustin Goodwin also serves on NYCwireless Board of  
Directors, and has led NYCwireless campaign to provide free wireless  
access to Community Access Houses in Manhattan, The Bronx and  
Brooklyn. Terry and Dustin both work for Cisco.


Cognio will explain how to use their laptop spectrum analyzer to  
troubleshoot everyday RF problems. Spectrum Analyzers have the  
ability to view all RF activity not just 802.11. Cordless phone  
shutting down your Wifi network? You'll never be able to figure out  
unless it's your phone or you have a tool like Cognio's. Great for  
people looking to learn more about diagnostic tools used to  
troubleshoot wireless network problems.

Special thanks to NYU ITP for graciously hosting this month's  
NYCwireless meeting. Thanks to Red Burns, George Agudow and Nancy Lewis.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
NYCwireless is a non-profit organization that advocates for, and  
enables the growth of free, public wireless networks.

-- 
-- 

Joe Plotkin
NYCwireless
Board of Directors
email: joe@NYCwireless.net
phone: 212.982.9800
web: http://NYCwireless.net
========================
NYCwireless is a non-profit organization
that advocates for, and enables the
growth of free, public wireless networks
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From: Joel Landy <joellandy@yahoo.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 5:20:23 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Cc: carl lawrence <lawone01@yahoo.com>, Sharleen Leahey  
<songs4peace@earthlink.net>, Robert Lederman  
<robert.lederman@worldnet.att.net>, Ken Katz <kazk@softhome.net>,  
Talbot Katz <topkatz@msn.com>, Jenny Hurwitz  
<jennyhurwitz@hotmail.com>, Alex Harper  
<RAISINGHADES@worldnet.att.net>, Eddie MediaCrime Havoc  
<us@mediacrime.com>, Mark Heffron <triman1@optonline.net>, Eric  
Hiltner <akaphrates@hotmail.com>
Subject: New York City's best kept secret
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hello, everyone.

The summer is over and a new season has begun! I hope you are well.

For me there have been many changes. A lot has been keeping me busy  
lately.

For one, I have moved. I live somewhere else now. Lots of energy went  
into that. And lots of energy will continue to go into my new life  
living with Takako, my fiancee. That's one big change.

Another big change is my employment. I am now a school teacher  
working full-time at a high school in Brooklyn. Lots of energy goes  
into that too. So many of you are teachers and know exactly what I  
mean. I have been going to school to get my official certification to  
make this happen. I want to thank my teacher friends for all thier  
support during this process. And the process continues. I am still  
attending classes at New York City Tech to make my teaching job  
possible. Energy goes into that, too. Phew!

So, I told you about the job, the relationship and the apartment (in  
Kew Gardens, Queens).
I still need to tell you about the best kept secret in New York City.

Amid all of the energy and time spent in my new life, I have not told  
many folks aboutmy
JoelLandy and Friends performance at the 22-Below Cabaret.


The show is thisSaturday, October 1st. 9pm.
(22-Below Cabaret, located downstairs at 155 E. 22 St, betw. Lex and  
3rd Aves)
$10admission $5unemployed/seniors

The performance is part of Keep Space for Peace Week, an annual  
initiative sponsored by the Global Network Against Nuclear Power and  
Weapons in Space. You will hear more about that Saturday night. You  
will also hear from my talented and performing friends, including  
Dennis "That Dylan Guy!" Heller and Mercy Van Vlack. Also performing  
will be the talented proprietors of 22-Below, Kim Rich and Shawn  
Norton. I always enjoy performing at 22-Below. The vibes are always  
relaxed and Shawn and Kim are generous hosts. It's a real sweet place  
to play and see a show. I hope you can make it Saturday.

It's going to be fun and politicalwith a few surprises, as always.

Come on down. Let's make a statement, sing, laughand have some fun  
together.

peace love music and regime change,

Joel

See you Saturday!


http://www.singfreedom.org (Songs of Freedom website)
Watch Songs of Freedom on the web at www.mnn.org and in Manhattan  
alternate Saturdays,10:30pm, Channel 34 (July 9,23 August 6,20 Sept  
3,17)
Queens: Sunday 6:30pm and Thursday 5:00pm on Channel 35
Staten Island: Tues. 7:30pm, Channel 25
Bronx: Wed. 4:30pm, Channel 70
Brooklyn: Thursday 1:00 and 9:00pm Ch. 35/68
"If you don't like what's on TV then make your own!" --- You are  
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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Fa-yi Chou <fyc204@nyu.edu>
Date: September 27, 2005 5:43:45 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Job: Software UI Lead Developer
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

VFinity MDW Presentation Layer & User Interface Lead Developer

Job Duties & Responsibilities:

Gather application requirements for User Interface and application
presentation layer for in-progress staged release development and for
future release cycles.
Design presentation layer application components and objects across
all product systems. This includes Multimedia Ingest Integation,
Multimedia Asset Management, Multimedia Production Integration,
Multimedia Distribution Integration, and Administrative Tools.
Work closely with product system leads to design interface between
presentation layer and mid-tier business logic layer.
Hands-on development of presentation layer code.
Management of contract and outsourced resources to develop components
of presentation layer code, including detailed specification
documentation.
Work closely with Art Director to specify and produce graphical
elements and information architecture for User Interface of all
application systems.


Desired Experience & Skills:

Bachelors or advanced degree in computer science or equivalent.
Five years experience designing and developing web applications
and/or software application presentation layer. Experience with multi-
tier client server architectures is a must.
Comfortable in fast-paced entrepreneurial, start-up, or small company
environment.
Demonstrated success in structuring/restructuring large-scale and
complex transactional interactive web site(s)/applications
Knowledge of fields of Information Architecture, Usability
Engineering, HCI and Human Factors
Experience with ASP.Net, and C# is a plus.

Please send a resume and cover letter summarizing your relevant
experience and skills to techhr@vfinity.com.


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From: Fa-yi Chou <fyc204@nyu.edu>
Date: September 27, 2005 5:48:57 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Job: UI Design Director
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Director of User Interface & Graphic Design

Vfinity, the makers of the revolutionary pure software, open
architecture V-Business Multimedia Digital Workflow (MDW) solution,
are seeking a User Interface Project Lead to work with its product
development team in the companys headquarters in New York City.
Qualified candidates will play a critical role in our success by
developing intuitive and powerful interfaces for web based
applications in the area of digital asset management, multimedia
production management, and multimedia distribution management. Our
development team is passionate about building a revolutionary new
breed of applications for media production and distribution, and we
are looking for a designer who is as excited by this opportunity as we
are.

We are looking for skilled and experienced user interface designers
with familiarity in several or all of the following areas:

Digital video and media production software applications
Digital asset management solutions
Enterprise web based applications


Typical Job Duties:
Lead design and development of all graphical and UI elements of new
multimedia workflow web application product.
Lead design and/or manage design & production of user manual and
marketing material production for product launch


Desired Experience & Skills:
BFA/MFA in Graphic/Communication Design, or related field of study
Five years experience designing web applications and/or software
application user interfaces.
Deadline-conscious, results-driven, and high-performing in a fast-
paced environment.
Demonstrated success in structuring/restructuring large-scale and
complex transactional interactive web site(s)/applications
Knowledge of fields of Information Architecture, Usability
Engineering, HCI and Human Factors
Hand-coding web pages using HTML, CSS, JavaScript, ASP.Net, .NET
(using .net controls), C# (for code-behind') is a plus.

Please send a resume and cover letter summarizing your relevant
experience and skills to techhr@vfinity.com

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From: Sarah Gray <sarah@fabled.net>
Date: September 27, 2005 5:57:21 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: OK, so...what is dot net (.NET) exactly?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Wise List,

Can someone give me the for-dummies overview of what exactly is "Dot  
Net"? I have googled it but that has led me to only more confusion,  
as I see ASP.NET, visual basic.net, the .net platform, etc. It's hard  
to figure out even what it is, much less contemplating why or how one  
would learn it.

Any & all responses welcomed --

Thanks,

Sarah



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From: josh nimoy <josh@jtnimoy.net>
Date: September 27, 2005 6:00:46 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: OK, so...what is dot net (.NET) exactly?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

from wikipedia . . .

The .NET Framework created by Microsoft is a software development  
platform focused on rapid application development (RAD), platform  
independence and network transparency. .NET is Microsoft's strategic  
initiative for server and desktop development for the next decade.  
According to Microsoft, .NET includes many technologies that are  
designed to facilitate rapid development of Internet and intranet  
applications.
.NET has brought new functionalities and tools to the application  
programming interface (API). These innovations allow programmers to  
develop applications for both Windows and the web as well as  
components and services (web services). .NET provides a new  
reflective, object-oriented API. .NET is designed to be sufficiently  
generic that many different high-level languages can be compiled.
The .NET framework is a competing product to Sun's Java and J2EE  
technology and it shares many concepts with it.
There is a collection of development tools specifically developed for  
use with the .NET platform. The principal example is Visual  
Studio .NET, an integrated development environment from Microsoft.


the rest of this is athttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_.NET







On Sep 27, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Sarah Gray wrote:
Wise List,

Can someone give me the for-dummies overview of what exactly is "Dot  
Net"? I have googled it but that has led me to only more confusion,  
as I see ASP.NET, visual basic.net, the .net platform, etc. It's hard  
to figure out even what it is, much less contemplating why or how one  
would learn it.

Any & all responses welcomed --

Thanks,

Sarah



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From: lia bulaong <lia@bulaong.com>
Date: September 24, 2005 7:12:44 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: business cards
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Almighty List,

So I'm giving a talk on Friday and just realized I have no business
cards to give out, what are my options for good fast cheap 4/1 printing
in the city? Online is my second choice because of shipping costs, and
if I'm doing online printing I'll probably use 4by6.com, unless anyone
has cheaper but still solid suggestions.

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From: r k <raina_post@yahoo.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 3:06:23 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: business cards
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

design station in williamsburg.

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>
> So I'm giving a talk on Friday and just realized I
> have no business
> cards to give out, what are my options for good fast
> cheap 4/1 printing
> in the city? Online is my second choice because of
> shipping costs, and
> if I'm doing online printing I'll probably use
> 4by6.com, unless anyone
> has cheaper but still solid suggestions.
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From: morry <murray.baloney@gmail.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 12:49:59 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: business cards
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

http://www.4over4.com/



On 9/24/05, lia bulaong <lia@bulaong.com> wrote:
> Almighty List,
>
> So I'm giving a talk on Friday and just realized I have no business
> cards to give out, what are my options for good fast cheap 4/1  
> printing
> in the city? Online is my second choice because of shipping costs, and
> if I'm doing online printing I'll probably use 4by6.com, unless anyone
> has cheaper but still solid suggestions.
>
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From: Takashi MIZOHATA <tm686@nyu.edu>
Date: September 28, 2005 12:58:59 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Need a Flash Designer
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Dear ITP alumni,

I need someone who can help me to do the project (paid).  My client  
is trying to launch a new fashion brand.  Basically they don't need a  
lot things.  A little bit of sound, flashing pictures transition,  
rotating a small logo and so on..  A person who can do all the Flash  
cliche quickly, please send an email to me off the list with your  
latest project.  How much are you getting paid for?  Not too much, we  
can negotiate.  I guess not too bad.

Thanks!


--tksh


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From: "andrea j. stein" <ajs327@nyu.edu>
Date: September 27, 2005 5:52:30 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: the freelance job that wouldn't die
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Wondering if anyone that's had this problem before can give me some  
advice...

I have a freelance job that was supposed to end July 1st but is still  
dragging along...
We had a 3 week testing period last june, during which time all  
reported bugs were fixed and confirmed (by the client) to be fixed.
But here and there since the supposed delivery date, more minor bugs  
have poppped up... I've been fixing them for free even though I  
received final payment on the job and really consider it done. At  
what point should I start billing for these? And how do I explain  
myself to the client? My attitude is kind of that all software has  
bugs and that's why multiple versions get released... Is that an  
unreasonable way to look at the situation?

thx...
a



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From: jon marcel <jon@kinephoria.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 5:56:02 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: the freelance job that wouldn't die
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

depending on the relationship with the client, i would say that you  
should
never do work for free, especially afer the job has been signed off on.
once the job is done, it's done. if they signed off saying it was ok,  
then
that's the end. if they change their mind later, you should offer to  
help,
but for your normal hourly rate. the idea that software has bugs is not
unreasonable i think.



> Wondering if anyone that's had this problem before can give me some
> advice...
>
> I have a freelance job that was supposed to end July 1st but is still
> dragging along...
> We had a 3 week testing period last june, during which time all  
> reported
> bugs were fixed and confirmed (by the client) to be fixed.
> But here and there since the supposed delivery date, more minor bugs
> have poppped up... I've been fixing them for free even though I  
> received
> final payment on the job and really consider it done. At what point
> should I start billing for these? And how do I explain myself to the
> client? My attitude is kind of that all software has bugs and  
> that's why
> multiple versions get released... Is that an unreasonable way to  
> look at
> the situation?
>
> thx...
> a
>
>
>
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From: Manlio Lo Conte <manlio@gmail.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 6:02:19 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: the freelance job that wouldn't die
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Ugh. I feel your pain, I've had a few of these recently.

I suppose it depends on what's in the statement of work, or contract
(assuming there is one). If there is, you can probably initiate a
conversation in which you say that you feel all the promised  
functionality
exists and any forthcoming changes are "feature updates" and not "bug
fixes". in which case you'll need a new contract and you get to start
billing again (yay!). Even if no contract exists, you can probably  
make this
case, and at least see what they say. it probably will depend on the  
nature
of the new bugs, if they are continuing problems with the initial
deliverable, or if the program works within a certain agreed upon  
framework
and now it's being asked to do new things, and as a result, new bugs are
popping up.

-----Original Message-----
From: andrea j. stein [mailto:ajs327@nyu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 5:53 PM
To: ITP Alumni
Subject: the freelance job that wouldn't die

Wondering if anyone that's had this problem before can give me some
advice...

I have a freelance job that was supposed to end July 1st but is still
dragging along...
We had a 3 week testing period last june, during which time all reported
bugs were fixed and confirmed (by the client) to be fixed.
But here and there since the supposed delivery date, more minor bugs
have poppped up... I've been fixing them for free even though I received
final payment on the job and really consider it done. At what point
should I start billing for these? And how do I explain myself to the
client? My attitude is kind of that all software has bugs and that's why
multiple versions get released... Is that an unreasonable way to look at
the situation?

thx...
a



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From: "evan.raskob" <lists@lowfrequency.org>
Date: September 27, 2005 6:21:18 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: the freelance job that wouldn't die
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Almost always, in the contract is a clause that talks about what to  
do if the project runs over.  It really depends on what you singed on  
for - to do a contracted work for a certain number of hours, or to  
deliver a fully-functional and bugless piece of software.  Also, make  
sure to warn the people whom you work for that "this is the last bug  
fix and I've worked a lot of hours over contract."  I have to say -  
I've made this mistake before, thinking that I've warned them that  
the project is going overtime and my contract doesn't cover it, when  
in fact I haven't pushed hard enough.


good luck!

-evan


On Sep 27, 2005, at 6:02 PM, Manlio Lo Conte wrote:

> Ugh. I feel your pain, I've had a few of these recently.
>
> I suppose it depends on what's in the statement of work, or contract
> (assuming there is one). If there is, you can probably initiate a
> conversation in which you say that you feel all the promised  
> functionality
> exists and any forthcoming changes are "feature updates" and not "bug
> fixes". in which case you'll need a new contract and you get to start
> billing again (yay!). Even if no contract exists, you can probably  
> make this
> case, and at least see what they say. it probably will depend on  
> the nature
> of the new bugs, if they are continuing problems with the initial
> deliverable, or if the program works within a certain agreed upon  
> framework
> and now it's being asked to do new things, and as a result, new  
> bugs are
> popping up.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: andrea j. stein [mailto:ajs327@nyu.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 5:53 PM
> To: ITP Alumni
> Subject: the freelance job that wouldn't die
>
> Wondering if anyone that's had this problem before can give me some
> advice...
>
> I have a freelance job that was supposed to end July 1st but is still
> dragging along...
> We had a 3 week testing period last june, during which time all  
> reported
> bugs were fixed and confirmed (by the client) to be fixed.
> But here and there since the supposed delivery date, more minor bugs
> have poppped up... I've been fixing them for free even though I  
> received
> final payment on the job and really consider it done. At what point
> should I start billing for these? And how do I explain myself to the
> client? My attitude is kind of that all software has bugs and  
> that's why
> multiple versions get released... Is that an unreasonable way to  
> look at
> the situation?
>
> thx...
> a
>
>
>
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From: "andrea j. stein" <ajs327@nyu.edu>
Date: September 27, 2005 9:21:57 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: the freelance job that wouldn't die
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

thanks for the advice. now i just need to make the client see it this  
clearly...

evan.raskob wrote:

> Almost always, in the contract is a clause that talks about what to  
> do if the project runs over.  It really depends on what you singed  
> on for - to do a contracted work for a certain number of hours, or  
> to deliver a fully-functional and bugless piece of software.  Also,  
> make sure to warn the people whom you work for that "this is the  
> last bug fix and I've worked a lot of hours over contract."  I have  
> to say - I've made this mistake before, thinking that I've warned  
> them that the project is going overtime and my contract doesn't  
> cover it, when in fact I haven't pushed hard enough.
>
>
> good luck!
>
> -evan
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2005, at 6:02 PM, Manlio Lo Conte wrote:
>
>> Ugh. I feel your pain, I've had a few of these recently.
>>
>> I suppose it depends on what's in the statement of work, or contract
>> (assuming there is one). If there is, you can probably initiate a
>> conversation in which you say that you feel all the promised  
>> functionality
>> exists and any forthcoming changes are "feature updates" and not "bug
>> fixes". in which case you'll need a new contract and you get to start
>> billing again (yay!). Even if no contract exists, you can probably  
>> make this
>> case, and at least see what they say. it probably will depend on  
>> the nature
>> of the new bugs, if they are continuing problems with the initial
>> deliverable, or if the program works within a certain agreed upon  
>> framework
>> and now it's being asked to do new things, and as a result, new  
>> bugs are
>> popping up.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: andrea j. stein [mailto:ajs327@nyu.edu]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 5:53 PM
>> To: ITP Alumni
>> Subject: the freelance job that wouldn't die
>>
>> Wondering if anyone that's had this problem before can give me some
>> advice...
>>
>> I have a freelance job that was supposed to end July 1st but is still
>> dragging along...
>> We had a 3 week testing period last june, during which time all  
>> reported
>> bugs were fixed and confirmed (by the client) to be fixed.
>> But here and there since the supposed delivery date, more minor bugs
>> have poppped up... I've been fixing them for free even though I  
>> received
>> final payment on the job and really consider it done. At what point
>> should I start billing for these? And how do I explain myself to the
>> client? My attitude is kind of that all software has bugs and  
>> that's why
>> multiple versions get released... Is that an unreasonable way to  
>> look at
>> the situation?
>>
>> thx...
>> a
>>
>>
>>
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From: morry <murray.baloney@gmail.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 1:03:15 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: the freelance job that wouldn't die
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Last winter a very good client of mine who's a very senior level
exeuctive of mine had refered me to a not-for-profit group for some
consulting/advice. I was under the impression my good client was
working with that not-for-profit and that she was enlisting me to give
pro bono advice.

Later after the consulting was done my client was surprised to hear
that I hadn't sent them a bill. Her response was "Morry this is
business you have to send people bills." I sent a bill and not only
did they pay me right away they called me and thanked me profusely for
saving them money with the advice and then a few months later they
hired me again.

I learned something valuable form this experience- when you are a
professional you have to bill for your time and people not only
understand they expect it. If you want to be treated like a
professional you have to behave like one. Professionals charge for
their services unless it is otherwise agreed. If you haven't agreed
otherwise you should send them a bill. What's the worst that will
happen?  They won't pay you? Then you wil be in the same position you
are now.

They might say they don't want to pay and they thought these were bug
fixes etc. but stand your ground and state just what you have, or you
could say well since it wasn't clear I'll give you the benefit of the
doubt and discount your invoice but going forward please understand
all work will be billed at $x/ hour.



On 9/27/05, andrea j. stein <ajs327@nyu.edu> wrote:
> thanks for the advice. now i just need to make the client see it this
> clearly...
>
> evan.raskob wrote:
>
>> Almost always, in the contract is a clause that talks about what  
>> to do
>> if the project runs over.  It really depends on what you singed on  
>> for
>> - to do a contracted work for a certain number of hours, or to  
>> deliver
>> a fully-functional and bugless piece of software.  Also, make sure to
>> warn the people whom you work for that "this is the last bug fix and
>> I've worked a lot of hours over contract."  I have to say - I've made
>> this mistake before, thinking that I've warned them that the project
>> is going overtime and my contract doesn't cover it, when in fact I
>> haven't pushed hard enough.
>>
>>
>> good luck!
>>
>> -evan
>>
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2005, at 6:02 PM, Manlio Lo Conte wrote:
>>
>>> Ugh. I feel your pain, I've had a few of these recently.
>>>
>>> I suppose it depends on what's in the statement of work, or contract
>>> (assuming there is one). If there is, you can probably initiate a
>>> conversation in which you say that you feel all the promised
>>> functionality
>>> exists and any forthcoming changes are "feature updates" and not  
>>> "bug
>>> fixes". in which case you'll need a new contract and you get to  
>>> start
>>> billing again (yay!). Even if no contract exists, you can probably
>>> make this
>>> case, and at least see what they say. it probably will depend on the
>>> nature
>>> of the new bugs, if they are continuing problems with the initial
>>> deliverable, or if the program works within a certain agreed upon
>>> framework
>>> and now it's being asked to do new things, and as a result, new  
>>> bugs are
>>> popping up.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: andrea j. stein [mailto:ajs327@nyu.edu]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 5:53 PM
>>> To: ITP Alumni
>>> Subject: the freelance job that wouldn't die
>>>
>>> Wondering if anyone that's had this problem before can give me some
>>> advice...
>>>
>>> I have a freelance job that was supposed to end July 1st but is  
>>> still
>>> dragging along...
>>> We had a 3 week testing period last june, during which time all  
>>> reported
>>> bugs were fixed and confirmed (by the client) to be fixed.
>>> But here and there since the supposed delivery date, more minor bugs
>>> have poppped up... I've been fixing them for free even though I  
>>> received
>>> final payment on the job and really consider it done. At what point
>>> should I start billing for these? And how do I explain myself to the
>>> client? My attitude is kind of that all software has bugs and  
>>> that's why
>>> multiple versions get released... Is that an unreasonable way to  
>>> look at
>>> the situation?
>>>
>>> thx...
>>> a
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From: Wendy Cown <wcown@cloud9.net>
Date: September 25, 2005 1:50:03 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: discount airline to montreal?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hi, has anyone found a discount airline that flies to montreal?  
JetBlue doesn't go there and the flights I'm finding for a random  
December weekend are a bit high.
Thanks,
Wendy

-- 
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Date: September 28, 2005 1:16:36 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: discount airline to montreal?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

i've been finding good rates lately on hotwire.com  also i was shocked
last monhth to see that the price to go from nyc to montreal on Amtrak
was less than nyc to dc or nyc to baltimore.  yeah it's a long trip
but it's supposed to be beautiful.

On 9/25/05, Wendy Cown <wcown@cloud9.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, has anyone found a discount airline that flies to montreal?   
> JetBlue
> doesn't go there and the flights I'm finding for a random December  
> weekend
> are a bit high.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wendy
>  --
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>  wcown@cloud9.net
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From: dh254 <dh254@nyu.edu>
Date: September 28, 2005 1:46:32 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: artists studio space available - williamsburg
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

share available immediate until feb 1 (with possible renewal) in a  
large, renovated working loft with 5 other media people. Those who  
work there now are primarily animators, interactive, + computer  
artists, none of whom are there at the same time.

The media studio is located at North 3rd in Williamsburg near the  
water in a building known for its many artists and curators. Space is  
big and open, clean (no sink except in bathroom down the hall), has  
wifi, and you have 1/3 of the space. There is a couch, fridge,  
coffeemaker etc also in the space and folks are generous and good  
natured.

Looking for reliable person with references, ITP alum or someone  
active in media preferred. A designer or physical computing person  
would be ideal-- there is an oscilloscope and bench in the space as  
well.

Rent is $550 month incl utils. Current tenant has received residency  
and will be gone much of the fall.

contact: ludmillacorcova@hotmail.com

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From: tracy gross <teegross@hotmail.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 1:32:44 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Galapagos Islands?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

This is kind of random, but I thought I'd try anyway....

Does anyone have suggestions about visiting the Galapagos?  My  
husband and I would love to go, but aren't interested in taking a  
fancy cruise....  I think there must be a way to stay on one island  
and take day trips to the others....

Would really appreciate any advice from anyone who's been there!   
THANKS!  Also, better to email tracy@pastejewelry.com



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From: Michelle Kempner <guarana63@gmail.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 4:40:16 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Galapagos Islands?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

i looked into it once.  i'm not sure if i am remembering correctly,
but i don't think you can stay on the islands (unless maybe in a tent)
because they are nature preserves.  i don't think the boats are
necessarily fancy either.

On 9/27/05, tracy gross <teegross@hotmail.com> wrote:
> This is kind of random, but I thought I'd try anyway....
>
> Does anyone have suggestions about visiting the Galapagos?  My  
> husband and I
> would love to go, but aren't interested in taking a fancy  
> cruise....  I
> think there must be a way to stay on one island and take day trips  
> to the
> others....
>
> Would really appreciate any advice from anyone who's been there!   
> THANKS!
> Also, better to email tracy@pastejewelry.com
>
>
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From: ep243@aol.com
Date: September 27, 2005 8:18:01 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Galapagos Islands?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


Having never been to the Galapagos, I would suggest you try looking  
at the Fodors.com message boards.

Good luck!

liz



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From: tracy gross <teegross@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:32:44 -0400
Subject: Galapagos Islands?

This is kind of random, but I thought I'd try anyway....

Does anyone have suggestions about visiting the Galapagos? My husband  
and I would love to go, but aren't interested in taking a fancy  
cruise.... I think there must be a way to stay on one island and take  
day trips to the others....

Would really appreciate any advice from anyone who's been there!  
THANKS! Also, better to email tracy@pastejewelry.com


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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Vica Vinogradova <vica@ladno.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 5:59:51 AM EDT
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Subject: Galapagos Islands?
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You might be able to stay on the islands (not sure, as they are a
protected nature reserve). From what I heard from people who went there,
you either do a "fancy" cruise, or you travel there by air from either
Ecuador or Guatemala. But ticket prices bite - from around $1,000 per
person (I might be wrong). However,  this is the figure I remember from
last time we checked, so we ended up going to Costa-Rica, Guatemala and
Belize instead. Great stuff.

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From: Limor <itpalum.limi@gmail.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 8:30:12 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Apache POI
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hey list,

has anyone work with POI before (clone excel sheets)?

Thanks :)


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From: Bill Swersey <bill@swersey.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 9:10:07 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt? - Lands End
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I may be a little late on this thread (no pun intended). But check  
out Lands End [landsend.com] they have terrific mens shirts,  
great value and one of the best e-commerce websites anywhere. I  
particularly like the pinpoint cotton shirts.

They have a no-questions-asked returns policy (no time  
limit). Excellent value. Theyll send you free fabric swatches  
and once you find your size, you can go online and order anytime. I  
even got a little monogram on the pocket of an oxford shirt for a  
laugh! While you are on the site, you can call their 800 number and  
ask questions.

The overstock/close-out section of their website is also worth a look.

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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: davila@media-matters.net
Date: September 28, 2005 9:44:23 AM EDT
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Subject: RE: a good dress shirt? - Lands End
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Plus they sponsor A Prairie Home Companion on public radio, dont  
they, Mr. NPR? (All the more reason!)

Dvila

From: Bill Swersey [mailto:bill@swersey.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:10 AM
To: ITP Alumni
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt? - Lands End

I may be a little late on this thread (no pun intended). But check  
out Lands End [landsend.com] they have terrific mens shirts,  
great value and one of the best e-commerce websites anywhere. I  
particularly like the pinpoint cotton shirts.

They have a no-questions-asked returns policy (no time  
limit). Excellent value. Theyll send you free fabric swatches  
and once you find your size, you can go online and order anytime. I  
even got a little monogram on the pocket of an oxford shirt for a  
laugh! While you are on the site, you can call their 800 number and  
ask questions.

The overstock/close-out section of their website is also worth a look.

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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Amber Cartwright  
<ambermoves@hotmail.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 10:46:38 AM EDT
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Subject: Cheap movers?
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Hi.  Forgive me for asking this question that I have seen over and  
over again on this list.  Any suggestions on cheap and reliable movers?



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From: Audrey Kuenstler <callmeaudrey@gmail.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 6:07:44 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: data recovery
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

hi ITPerz

my DV iMac (2000) fried to crispy bits. i have the internal hard drive.
anyone know a starved-artist way to get the data out?
tekserve charges 300 but suggested someone might be set up for this.
anyone? all suggestions appreciated. thanks.

Audrey

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From: dima farer <dima.farer@gmail.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 11:26:20 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: data recovery
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

i've had good luck with datavision. 5th ave, 1 block south of the  
Library (Briant park) on the east side of the street, (across from  
comp usa)

d

On 9/27/05, Audrey Kuenstler <callmeaudrey@gmail.com> wrote:
hi ITPerz

my DV iMac (2000) fried to crispy bits. i have the internal hard drive.
anyone know a starved-artist way to get the data out?
tekserve charges 300 but suggested someone might be set up for this.
anyone? all suggestions appreciated. thanks.

Audrey

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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Nakiso <itp@nakiso.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 12:03:02 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: Trendy Bars
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hi Listland,

Organizing a small group tour of some swanky,  trendy, posh and  
classy bar-lounges as a research project. Any suggestions for some  
good places to check out. Mostly looking for nice spots to hang out.  
So the tour will take place this Saturday and its a group of 8-12  
people. I'm mostly targeting Lower Manhattan, but will take the whole  
island on, just maybe not this Saturday. Will do these for a few  
Saturdays, starting with this weekend. The idea is to run a recon  
mission to get a flavor for different bars in NYC.

Also worth noting is we'll start on 5th heading down to 14th street.  
So we'll pass Lemon, the W, Sushi Samba, etc. We'll go East to West  
and pick up the middle stuff on the way west.

Target demo is 21-35. Thanks,

- Nakiso

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From: "evan.raskob" <lists@lowfrequency.org>
Date: September 26, 2005 4:21:42 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: a good dress shirt?
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I find myself in need of a really nice dress shirt, the kind that you  
wear with a tie but don't need to wear with a suit.  Any  
recommendations on a good shirt tailor/company/store to check out in  
NYC?

thanks,
-evan


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From: Gilad Rosner <roz@speakeasy.net>
Date: September 26, 2005 4:23:44 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: a good dress shirt?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Filene's Basement.

-g.

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Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 4:22 PM
To: ITP Alumni
Subject: a good dress shirt?


I find myself in need of a really nice dress shirt, the kind that you
wear with a tie but don't need to wear with a suit.  Any
recommendations on a good shirt tailor/company/store to check out in
NYC?

thanks,
-evan


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From: Michelle Kempner <guarana63@gmail.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 4:25:51 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

ted baker is fun
duncan quinn is fancy http://www.duncanquinn.com/

bloomingdales in soho has a selection from all different cool shirt  
designers

On 9/26/05, evan.raskob <lists@lowfrequency.org> wrote:
> I find myself in need of a really nice dress shirt, the kind that you
> wear with a tie but don't need to wear with a suit.  Any
> recommendations on a good shirt tailor/company/store to check out in
> NYC?
>
> thanks,
> -evan
>
>
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From: Happy Mia Gomes <happy.gomes@gmail.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 4:30:57 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

try "seize sur vingt" in nolita. I think it's on elizabeth street...  
thomas pink also makes really nice shirts.
happy



On 9/26/05, evan.raskob <lists@lowfrequency.org> wrote:
I find myself in need of a really nice dress shirt, the kind that you
wear with a tie but don't need to wear with a suit.Any
recommendations on a good shirt tailor/company/store to check out in
NYC?

thanks,
-evan


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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Audrey Kuenstler  
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Date: September 26, 2005 4:45:07 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

that's what i was trying to think of, seize sur vingt! couldn't
remember the name but now second the recommendation. it's on
elizabeth. also check Sean on Thompson.

audrey


On 9/26/05, Happy Mia Gomes <happy.gomes@gmail.com> wrote:
> try "seize sur vingt" in nolita. I think it's on elizabeth  
> street... thomas
> pink also makes really nice shirts.
>
> happy
>
>
>
> On 9/26/05, evan.raskob <lists@lowfrequency.org> wrote:
>> I find myself in need of a really nice dress shirt, the kind that you
>> wear with a tie but don't need to wear with a suit.  Any
>> recommendations on a good shirt tailor/company/store to check out in
>> NYC?
>>
>> thanks,
>> -evan
>>
>>
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From: luis alvarez y alvarez <luis@fin4.org>
Date: September 26, 2005 4:55:04 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

You may also want to check out Paul Smith.
108 Fifth Ave. (Flatiron/Gramercy/Union Square)
at 16th St.
212-627-9770
paulsmith.co.uk
L.
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:21:42 -0400, evan.raskob wrote
> I find myself in need of a really nice dress shirt, the kind that
> you wear with a tie but don't need to wear with a suit.  Any
> recommendations on a good shirt tailor/company/store to check out in
> NYC?
>
> thanks,
> -evan
>
> ---
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From: Kevin Walker <kevin@exhibitresearch.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 5:16:36 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
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I've seen some fancy European ones, but when last in the US I got a  
surprisingly nice one at Target for $15.

On 26 Sep 2005, at 21:55, luis alvarez y alvarez wrote:

> You may also want to check out Paul Smith.
> 108 Fifth Ave. (Flatiron/Gramercy/Union Square)
> at 16th St.
> 212-627-9770
> paulsmith.co.uk
> L.
> On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:21:42 -0400, evan.raskob wrote
>
>> I find myself in need of a really nice dress shirt, the kind that
>> you wear with a tie but don't need to wear with a suit.  Any
>> recommendations on a good shirt tailor/company/store to check out in
>> NYC?
>>
>> thanks,
>> -evan
>>
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From: sameer kapoor <indianidol@gmail.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 5:21:16 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

evan

I've been making quality shirts out of my ye olde greenpoint tailor  
shoppe for over a decade now. I use only the finest sweatshop labor  
and materials....let me know if you would be interested in checking  
out the showroom....

sk



On 9/26/05, Kevin Walker <kevin@exhibitresearch.com> wrote:
I've seen some fancy European ones, but when last in the US I got a
surprisingly nice one at Target for $15.

On 26 Sep 2005, at 21:55, luis alvarez y alvarez wrote:

 > You may also want to check out Paul Smith.
 > 108 Fifth Ave. (Flatiron/Gramercy/Union Square)
 > at 16th St.
 > 212-627-9770
 > paulsmith.co.uk
 > L.
 > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:21:42 -0400, evan.raskob wrote
 >
 >> I find myself in need of a really nice dress shirt, the kind that
 >> you wear with a tie but don't need to wear with a suit.Any
 >> recommendations on a good shirt tailor/company/store to check out in
 >> NYC?
 >>
 >> thanks,
 >> -evan
 >>
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Date: September 26, 2005 5:21:34 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
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oops that was meant to be off list...



On 9/26/05, sameer kapoor <indianidol@gmail.com> wrote:
evan

I've been making quality shirts out of my ye olde greenpoint tailor  
shoppe for over a decade now. I use only the finest sweatshop labor  
and materials....let me know if you would be interested in checking  
out the showroom....

sk



On 9/26/05, Kevin Walker <kevin@exhibitresearch.com > wrote:
I've seen some fancy European ones, but when last in the US I got a
surprisingly nice one at Target for $15.

On 26 Sep 2005, at 21:55, luis alvarez y alvarez wrote:

 > You may also want to check out Paul Smith.
 > 108 Fifth Ave. (Flatiron/Gramercy/Union Square)
 > at 16th St.
 > 212-627-9770
 > paulsmith.co.uk
 > L.
 > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:21:42 -0400, evan.raskob wrote
 >
 >> I find myself in need of a really nice dress shirt, the kind that
 >> you wear with a tie but don't need to wear with a suit.Any
 >> recommendations on a good shirt tailor/company/store to check out in
 >> NYC?
 >>
 >> thanks,
 >> -evan
 >>
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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: "Howard Greenstein (public)"  
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Date: September 26, 2005 5:21:49 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Brooks Brothers in the 40s on Madison, also "Pink" which has several  
locations around town.

Kevin Walker wrote:

> I've seen some fancy European ones, but when last in the US I got  
> a  surprisingly nice one at Target for $15.
>
> On 26 Sep 2005, at 21:55, luis alvarez y alvarez wrote:
>
>> You may also want to check out Paul Smith.
>> 108 Fifth Ave. (Flatiron/Gramercy/Union Square)
>> at 16th St.
>> 212-627-9770
>> paulsmith.co.uk
>> L.
>> On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:21:42 -0400, evan.raskob wrote
>>
>>> I find myself in need of a really nice dress shirt, the kind that
>>> you wear with a tie but don't need to wear with a suit.  Any
>>> recommendations on a good shirt tailor/company/store to check out in
>>> NYC?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> -evan
>>>
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From: r k <raina_post@yahoo.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 5:23:47 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Ted Baker on Mercer in soho. slick styles.


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> Brooks Brothers in the 40s on Madison, also "Pink"
> which has several
> locations around town.
>
> Kevin Walker wrote:
>
>> I've seen some fancy European ones, but when last
> in the US I got a
>> surprisingly nice one at Target for $15.
>>
>> On 26 Sep 2005, at 21:55, luis alvarez y alvarez
> wrote:
>>
>>> You may also want to check out Paul Smith.
>>> 108 Fifth Ave. (Flatiron/Gramercy/Union Square)
>>> at 16th St.
>>> 212-627-9770
>>> paulsmith.co.uk
>>> L.
>>> On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:21:42 -0400, evan.raskob
> wrote
>>>
>>>> I find myself in need of a really nice dress
> shirt, the kind that
>>>> you wear with a tie but don't need to wear with
> a suit.  Any
>>>> recommendations on a good shirt
> tailor/company/store to check out in
>>>> NYC?
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> -evan
>>>>
>>>> ---
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From: Sarah Michael <sem247@nyu.edu>
Date: September 26, 2005 5:32:54 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
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Facanable - there is a flagship store on Madison or similar.

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From: r k <raina_post@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, September 26, 2005 2:23 pm
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?

> Ted Baker on Mercer in soho. slick styles.
>
>
> --- "Howard Greenstein (public)"
> <public@howardgreenstein.com> wrote:
>
>> Brooks Brothers in the 40s on Madison, also "Pink"
>> which has several
>> locations around town.
>>
>> Kevin Walker wrote:
>>
>>> I've seen some fancy European ones, but when last
>> in the US I got a
>>> surprisingly nice one at Target for $15.
>>>
>>> On 26 Sep 2005, at 21:55, luis alvarez y alvarez
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You may also want to check out Paul Smith.
>>>> 108 Fifth Ave. (Flatiron/Gramercy/Union Square)
>>>> at 16th St.
>>>> 212-627-9770
>>>> paulsmith.co.uk
>>>> L.
>>>> On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:21:42 -0400, evan.raskob
>> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> I find myself in need of a really nice dress
>> shirt, the kind that
>>>>> you wear with a tie but don't need to wear with
>> a suit.  Any
>>>>> recommendations on a good shirt
>> tailor/company/store to check out in
>>>>> NYC?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> -evan
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From: eric socolofsky <eric@transmote.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 9:24:13 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
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rothman's, northeast corner of union sq, couple doors down from  
barnes and noble.
good selection, not too pricey.  good sales staff.
good for suits too.

On Sep 26, 2005, at 4:21 PM, evan.raskob wrote:

> I find myself in need of a really nice dress shirt, the kind that  
> you wear with a tie but don't need to wear with a suit.  Any  
> recommendations on a good shirt tailor/company/store to check out  
> in NYC?
>
> thanks,
> -evan
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From: Tim Healy <timalumnilist@yahoo.com>
Date: September 26, 2005 11:53:48 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
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I have often bought dress shirts at Macy's which has
many brands and usually good prices, but the best
dress shirts I have are from Brooks Brothers. They
just seem to be made with really great quality.  I
can't remember how much they were, but it was more
expensive than the Macy's purchases. You can save a
few bucks from their Manhattan stores if you go to
there outlet store in Jersey Gardens mall near Newark
Airport. And there is no tax on clothing in NJ.

Tim

--- "evan.raskob" <lists@lowfrequency.org> wrote:

> I find myself in need of a really nice dress shirt,
> the kind that you
> wear with a tie but don't need to wear with a suit.
> Any
> recommendations on a good shirt tailor/company/store
> to check out in
> NYC?
>
> thanks,
> -evan
>
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From: Alisa Schwartz <as919@nyu.edu>
Date: September 27, 2005 10:16:10 AM EDT
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Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
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without a doubt...

Brooks Brothers no-iron button downs, they are AMAZING!


----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Healy <timalumnilist@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, September 26, 2005 11:53 pm
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?

> I have often bought dress shirts at Macy's which has
> many brands and usually good prices, but the best
> dress shirts I have are from Brooks Brothers. They
> just seem to be made with really great quality.  I
> can't remember how much they were, but it was more
> expensive than the Macy's purchases. You can save a
> few bucks from their Manhattan stores if you go to
> there outlet store in Jersey Gardens mall near Newark
> Airport. And there is no tax on clothing in NJ.
>
> Tim
>
> --- "evan.raskob" <lists@lowfrequency.org> wrote:
>
>> I find myself in need of a really nice dress shirt,
>> the kind that you
>> wear with a tie but don't need to wear with a suit.
>> Any
>> recommendations on a good shirt tailor/company/store
>> to check out in
>> NYC?
>>
>> thanks,
>> -evan
>>
>>
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From: younghui kim <younghui@missingpixel.net>
Date: September 27, 2005 12:34:46 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
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For men's clothing, Daffy's is a hidden treasure.  I keep hearing  
that from some friends who like to shop.  I did help few friends  
shopping there.  Also noticed well dressed gentlemen were shopping  
there - a good sign.  They have one on 5th Ave somewhere near 17th  
street & also near BAM.

Great for men but not for women.  :-)

...Y

On Sep 26, 2005, at 11:53 PM, Tim Healy wrote:

> I have often bought dress shirts at Macy's which has
> many brands and usually good prices, but the best
> dress shirts I have are from Brooks Brothers. They
> just seem to be made with really great quality.  I
> can't remember how much they were, but it was more
> expensive than the Macy's purchases. You can save a
> few bucks from their Manhattan stores if you go to
> there outlet store in Jersey Gardens mall near Newark
> Airport. And there is no tax on clothing in NJ.
>
> Tim
>
> --- "evan.raskob" <lists@lowfrequency.org> wrote:
>
>> I find myself in need of a really nice dress shirt,
>> the kind that you
>> wear with a tie but don't need to wear with a suit.
>> Any
>> recommendations on a good shirt tailor/company/store
>> to check out in
>> NYC?
>>
>> thanks,
>> -evan
>>
>>
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From: "evan.raskob" <lists@lowfrequency.org>
Date: September 27, 2005 12:50:05 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
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Thanks to all who replied!
Apparently, there are some pretty well-dressed ITP'ers out there...


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From: Eric Nadler <eric@simonmillworks.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 1:09:13 PM EDT
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Subject: RE: a good dress shirt?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

for something diffrnt:
DL Cerney
(there's one on 7th St., twn 2nd and 3rd Ave.)
awesome fabrics
30's style
not cheap at all

ESN



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> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:50 PM
> To: ITP Alumni
> Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
>
> Thanks to all who replied!
> Apparently, there are some pretty well-dressed ITP'ers out there...
>
>
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From: Jody Hankinson <hank99@bway.net>
Date: September 27, 2005 2:51:09 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Veering off-topic, Daffy's is great for baby cloths. Don't know about
anything else there, but have always found great stuff for youngsters.


On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, younghui kim wrote:

> For men's clothing, Daffy's is a hidden treasure.  I keep hearing that
> from some friends who like to shop.  I did help few friends shopping
> there.  Also noticed well dressed gentlemen were shopping there - a
> good sign.  They have one on 5th Ave somewhere near 17th street & also
> near BAM.
>
> Great for men but not for women.  :-)
>
> ...Y
>
> On Sep 26, 2005, at 11:53 PM, Tim Healy wrote:
>
>> I have often bought dress shirts at Macy's which has
>> many brands and usually good prices, but the best
>> dress shirts I have are from Brooks Brothers. They
>> just seem to be made with really great quality.  I
>> can't remember how much they were, but it was more
>> expensive than the Macy's purchases. You can save a
>> few bucks from their Manhattan stores if you go to
>> there outlet store in Jersey Gardens mall near Newark
>> Airport. And there is no tax on clothing in NJ.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> --- "evan.raskob" <lists@lowfrequency.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I find myself in need of a really nice dress shirt,
>>> the kind that you
>>> wear with a tie but don't need to wear with a suit.
>>> Any
>>> recommendations on a good shirt tailor/company/store
>>> to check out in
>>> NYC?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> -evan
>>>
>>>
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From: "evan.raskob" <lists@lowfrequency.org>
Date: September 27, 2005 4:21:42 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Yeah Filene's rocks, it's right near where I work on 18th & 6th.  I  
bought a designer shirt for about $69, then found 3 more of the same  
designer shirts in Filene's for about $15-20 each.


On Sep 26, 2005, at 4:23 PM, Gilad Rosner wrote:

> Filene's Basement.
>
> -g.
>
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> Subject: a good dress shirt?
>
>
> I find myself in need of a really nice dress shirt, the kind that you
> wear with a tie but don't need to wear with a suit.  Any
> recommendations on a good shirt tailor/company/store to check out in
> NYC?
>
> thanks,
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From: Vica Vinogradova <vica@ladno.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 5:51:43 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
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Late response from the digest:

For really fancy stuff, check out these (prices bite)

Tiny italian boutique on West Broadway near Broom
Costume National at 108 Wooster St
Kirna Zabete at 96 Greene Street
IT on Broom (?)
Etro at 720 Madison Ave
Don't forget BARNEYS ! :)

So save $$, go look for the same brands at Century 21 or Woodbury
Commons outlets

Good luck
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From: jonathan goldstein <jg956@nyu.edu>
Date: September 28, 2005 12:17:23 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: a good dress shirt?
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I have nothing to contribute to this thread. I just couldn't bear to  
have
so many people posting and not be part of it.

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From: Don Quijote <ap751@nyu.edu>
Date: September 28, 2005 12:28:00 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Data recovery 911 on Lacie Drive
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

A friend recently saw smoke coming out of his Lacie firewire 250GB  
firewire drive and needs emergency data recovery. His entire life's  
work is on this drive and would really help to find an affordable way  
to retrieve the data. TechServ quoted him $1400 to fix it, I find  
this extremely expensive..any thoughts/suggestions on other  
solutions? Help greatly appreciated. Thank you all mighty list!!

Alex


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From: "evan.raskob" <lists@lowfrequency.org>
Date: September 28, 2005 12:34:26 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Data recovery 911 on Lacie Drive
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That's not extremely expensive.  to fix a bad drive, you have to get  
a clean room and physically remove the platter, place it into a new  
drive.  If you have access to a clean room and a plethora of drive  
parts, you're in luck.  If not, it's well out of most people's price  
range to rent one (is that even possible?)

If the drive hasn't totally died yet, make it very cold (blow an air  
conditioner on it, or something) and then try to copy everything off  
it.  That's your only hope.  this is why a $200 backup drive make so  
much sense, in hindsight...

-ev


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> firewire drive and needs emergency data recovery. His entire life's  
> work is on this drive and would really help to find an affordable  
> way to retrieve the data. TechServ quoted him $1400 to fix it, I  
> find this extremely expensive..any thoughts/suggestions on other  
> solutions? Help greatly appreciated. Thank you all mighty list!!
>
> Alex
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From: Matthew Walsh <Matthew.Walsh@rga.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 4:23:58 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Selling My Car - 1996 Subaru Legacy LS
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

To All 

I am selling my car. It is in excellent condition, and I have babied  
it since I first bought it off the lot.

$5500 or best offer.

Details and pictures can be found here:
http://www.icvonline.com/car/

Feel free to pass on to anyone who might be interested.

I can be reached via cell phone at 914-523-8309.

Thanks,
Matt

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Sorry for the multiple post, but I heard from a few people that the  
web site wasnt working on IE for Mac.

I have tweaked it a bit and it should work for everyone now (damn you  
mac IE!!!). Drop me an email if you have any questions.

http://www.icvonline.com/car/

Cheers,
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Subject: Selling My Car - 1996 Subaru Legacy LS

To All 

I am selling my car. It is in excellent condition, and I have babied  
it since I first bought it off the lot.

$5500 or best offer.

Details and pictures can be found here:
http://www.icvonline.com/car/

Feel free to pass on to anyone who might be interested.

I can be reached via cell phone at 914-523-8309.

Thanks,
Matt

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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: brian maniere <bm563@nyu.edu>
Date: September 28, 2005 12:36:14 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: Selling My Car - 1996 Subaru Legacy LS
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are there really people still using IE on a Mac? who are these people?

Matthew Walsh wrote:

> Sorry for the multiple post, but I heard from a few people that the  
> web site wasnt working on IE for Mac.
>
> I have tweaked it a bit and it should work for everyone now (damn  
> you mac IE!!!). Drop me an email if you have any questions.
>
> http://www.icvonline.com/car/
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matt
>
> (and dont forget to pass this along if you know someone else who  
> might be interested. Thanks!)
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> --
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> *From:* Matthew Walsh
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2005 4:24 PM
> *To:* 'ITP Alumni'
> *Subject:* Selling My Car - 1996 Subaru Legacy LS
>
> To All 
>
> I am selling my car. It is in excellent condition, and I have  
> babied it since I first bought it off the lot.
>
> $5500 or best offer.
>
> Details and pictures can be found here:
>
> http://www.icvonline.com/car/
>
> Feel free to pass on to anyone who might be interested.
>
> I can be reached via cell phone at 914-523-8309.
>
> Thanks,
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From: brian maniere <bm563@nyu.edu>
Date: September 27, 2005 11:14:37 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: chirping laptop power supply --total weirdness!!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

After getting such great assistance with my first question today, I  
thought I'd put a follow up question to the experts on the list.

I managed to successfully repair my Dell Inspiron 8200 laptop by  
replacing a fried DC Power Board with a spare. That is, everything  
seems groovy, except it has been making strange squeaking/ chirping  
noises in a regular pattern ever since.

I am getting a quick chirp every 11 to 12 seconds or so, and every 12  
to 13 minutes I get much longer warbling chirps that start quietly  
and grow louder until they end in a high-pitched crescendo roughly 30  
to 70 seconds later.

These squeaks and chirps happen whether the laptop is on or off, as  
long as it is connected to a power supply (but not when it is running  
on battery power).

What gives?? These noises are very distracting. Do they also signal a  
more dangerous problem?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

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From: Michelle Kempner <guarana63@gmail.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 8:07:10 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: chirping laptop power supply --total weirdness!!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I think it is a short in your power supply.  I'm on my second power
supply for a similar Dell laptop and both have succumbed to a chirping
short.

On 9/27/05, brian maniere <bm563@nyu.edu> wrote:
> After getting such great assistance with my first question today, I
> thought I'd put a follow up question to the experts on the list.
>
> I managed to successfully repair my Dell Inspiron 8200 laptop by
> replacing a fried DC Power Board with a spare. That is, everything  
> seems
> groovy, except it has been making strange squeaking/ chirping  
> noises in
> a regular pattern ever since.
>
> I am getting a quick chirp every 11 to 12 seconds or so, and every  
> 12 to
> 13 minutes I get much longer warbling chirps that start quietly and  
> grow
> louder until they end in a high-pitched crescendo roughly 30 to 70
> seconds later.
>
> These squeaks and chirps happen whether the laptop is on or off, as  
> long
> as it is connected to a power supply (but not when it is running on
> battery power).
>
> What gives?? These noises are very distracting. Do they also signal a
> more dangerous problem?
>
> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>
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From: "jack . davis" <jack@panix.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 8:17:56 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: chirping laptop power supply --total weirdness!!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

you must have installed the 8200 power chirp board.

> I think it is a short in your power supply.  I'm on my second power
> supply for a similar Dell laptop and both have succumbed to a chirping
> short.
>
> On 9/27/05, brian maniere <bm563@nyu.edu> wrote:
>> After getting such great assistance with my first question today, I
>> thought I'd put a follow up question to the experts on the list.
>>
>> I managed to successfully repair my Dell Inspiron 8200 laptop by
>> replacing a fried DC Power Board with a spare. That is, everything  
>> seems
>> groovy, except it has been making strange squeaking/ chirping  
>> noises in
>> a regular pattern ever since.
>>
>> I am getting a quick chirp every 11 to 12 seconds or so, and every  
>> 12 to
>> 13 minutes I get much longer warbling chirps that start quietly  
>> and grow
>> louder until they end in a high-pitched crescendo roughly 30 to 70
>> seconds later.
>>
>> These squeaks and chirps happen whether the laptop is on or off,  
>> as long
>> as it is connected to a power supply (but not when it is running on
>> battery power).
>>
>> What gives?? These noises are very distracting. Do they also signal a
>> more dangerous problem?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>>
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From: brian maniere <bm563@nyu.edu>
Date: September 28, 2005 12:44:19 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: chirping laptop power supply --total weirdness!!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

uh oh.  that scares me.  But the noise seemed to get gradually  
quieter the closer my battery came to being fully charged, and to has  
stopped not that it is.  Would this disqualify it from being a  
short?  I dunno.

BTW, the chirp is coming from the vicinity of my new DC Charger  
board.  Otherwise I'd say maybe it is my battery complaining that it  
is hungry when mommy is present with food.

Michelle Kempner wrote:

> I think it is a short in your power supply.  I'm on my second power
> supply for a similar Dell laptop and both have succumbed to a chirping
> short.
>
> On 9/27/05, brian maniere <bm563@nyu.edu> wrote:
>
>> After getting such great assistance with my first question today, I
>> thought I'd put a follow up question to the experts on the list.
>>
>> I managed to successfully repair my Dell Inspiron 8200 laptop by
>> replacing a fried DC Power Board with a spare. That is, everything  
>> seems
>> groovy, except it has been making strange squeaking/ chirping  
>> noises in
>> a regular pattern ever since.
>>
>> I am getting a quick chirp every 11 to 12 seconds or so, and every  
>> 12 to
>> 13 minutes I get much longer warbling chirps that start quietly  
>> and grow
>> louder until they end in a high-pitched crescendo roughly 30 to 70
>> seconds later.
>>
>> These squeaks and chirps happen whether the laptop is on or off,  
>> as long
>> as it is connected to a power supply (but not when it is running on
>> battery power).
>>
>> What gives?? These noises are very distracting. Do they also signal a
>> more dangerous problem?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>>
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From: Michelle Kempner <guarana63@gmail.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 1:04:46 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: chirping laptop power supply --total weirdness!!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

if it is not a short, it is some sort of loose connection.  if it is
really a short your charger would stop working intermittently.

On 9/28/05, brian maniere <bm563@nyu.edu> wrote:
> uh oh.  that scares me.  But the noise seemed to get gradually quieter
> the closer my battery came to being fully charged, and to has stopped
> not that it is.  Would this disqualify it from being a short?  I  
> dunno.
>
> BTW, the chirp is coming from the vicinity of my new DC Charger board.
> Otherwise I'd say maybe it is my battery complaining that it is hungry
> when mommy is present with food.
>
> Michelle Kempner wrote:
>
>> I think it is a short in your power supply.  I'm on my second power
>> supply for a similar Dell laptop and both have succumbed to a  
>> chirping
>> short.
>>
>> On 9/27/05, brian maniere <bm563@nyu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> After getting such great assistance with my first question today, I
>>> thought I'd put a follow up question to the experts on the list.
>>>
>>> I managed to successfully repair my Dell Inspiron 8200 laptop by
>>> replacing a fried DC Power Board with a spare. That is,  
>>> everything seems
>>> groovy, except it has been making strange squeaking/ chirping  
>>> noises in
>>> a regular pattern ever since.
>>>
>>> I am getting a quick chirp every 11 to 12 seconds or so, and  
>>> every 12 to
>>> 13 minutes I get much longer warbling chirps that start quietly  
>>> and grow
>>> louder until they end in a high-pitched crescendo roughly 30 to 70
>>> seconds later.
>>>
>>> These squeaks and chirps happen whether the laptop is on or off,  
>>> as long
>>> as it is connected to a power supply (but not when it is running on
>>> battery power).
>>>
>>> What gives?? These noises are very distracting. Do they also  
>>> signal a
>>> more dangerous problem?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>>>
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From: "jack . davis" <jack@panix.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 1:12:48 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: chirping laptop power supply --total weirdness!!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

it might be an intermittent short...  is there any change in the  
chirp if
you rap on it? (if it was a dead short, it would have exploded by now)


> if it is not a short, it is some sort of loose connection.  if it is
> really a short your charger would stop working intermittently.
>
> On 9/28/05, brian maniere <bm563@nyu.edu> wrote:
>> uh oh.  that scares me.  But the noise seemed to get gradually  
>> quieter
>> the closer my battery came to being fully charged, and to has stopped
>> not that it is.  Would this disqualify it from being a short?  I  
>> dunno.
>>
>> BTW, the chirp is coming from the vicinity of my new DC Charger  
>> board.
>> Otherwise I'd say maybe it is my battery complaining that it is  
>> hungry
>> when mommy is present with food.
>>
>> Michelle Kempner wrote:
>>
>>> I think it is a short in your power supply.  I'm on my second power
>>> supply for a similar Dell laptop and both have succumbed to a  
>>> chirping
>>> short.
>>>
>>> On 9/27/05, brian maniere <bm563@nyu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> After getting such great assistance with my first question today, I
>>>> thought I'd put a follow up question to the experts on the list.
>>>>
>>>> I managed to successfully repair my Dell Inspiron 8200 laptop by
>>>> replacing a fried DC Power Board with a spare. That is, everything
>> seems
>>>> groovy, except it has been making strange squeaking/ chirping  
>>>> noises
>> in
>>>> a regular pattern ever since.
>>>>
>>>> I am getting a quick chirp every 11 to 12 seconds or so, and  
>>>> every 12
>> to
>>>> 13 minutes I get much longer warbling chirps that start quietly and
>> grow
>>>> louder until they end in a high-pitched crescendo roughly 30 to 70
>>>> seconds later.
>>>>
>>>> These squeaks and chirps happen whether the laptop is on or off, as
>> long
>>>> as it is connected to a power supply (but not when it is running on
>>>> battery power).
>>>>
>>>> What gives?? These noises are very distracting. Do they also  
>>>> signal a
>>>> more dangerous problem?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>>>>
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From: brian maniere <bm563@nyu.edu>
Date: September 28, 2005 1:24:15 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: chirping laptop power supply --total weirdness!!
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

thanks for the advice-- you guys have convinced me another operation  
is necessary.  Come to think of it, the laptop does seem to be hotter  
than usual in the area of the DC Charger Board.  Preparing the  
anesthesia....

jack . davis wrote:

> it might be an intermittent short...  is there any change in the  
> chirp if
> you rap on it? (if it was a dead short, it would have exploded by now)
>
>
>
>> if it is not a short, it is some sort of loose connection.  if it is
>> really a short your charger would stop working intermittently.
>>
>> On 9/28/05, brian maniere <bm563@nyu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> uh oh.  that scares me.  But the noise seemed to get gradually  
>>> quieter
>>> the closer my battery came to being fully charged, and to has  
>>> stopped
>>> not that it is.  Would this disqualify it from being a short?  I  
>>> dunno.
>>>
>>> BTW, the chirp is coming from the vicinity of my new DC Charger  
>>> board.
>>> Otherwise I'd say maybe it is my battery complaining that it is  
>>> hungry
>>> when mommy is present with food.
>>>
>>> Michelle Kempner wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think it is a short in your power supply.  I'm on my second power
>>>> supply for a similar Dell laptop and both have succumbed to a  
>>>> chirping
>>>> short.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/27/05, brian maniere <bm563@nyu.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> After getting such great assistance with my first question  
>>>>> today, I
>>>>> thought I'd put a follow up question to the experts on the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> I managed to successfully repair my Dell Inspiron 8200 laptop by
>>>>> replacing a fried DC Power Board with a spare. That is, everything
>>>>>
>>> seems
>>>
>>>>> groovy, except it has been making strange squeaking/ chirping  
>>>>> noises
>>>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>>> a regular pattern ever since.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am getting a quick chirp every 11 to 12 seconds or so, and  
>>>>> every 12
>>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>>> 13 minutes I get much longer warbling chirps that start quietly  
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>> grow
>>>
>>>>> louder until they end in a high-pitched crescendo roughly 30 to 70
>>>>> seconds later.
>>>>>
>>>>> These squeaks and chirps happen whether the laptop is on or  
>>>>> off, as
>>>>>
>>> long
>>>
>>>>> as it is connected to a power supply (but not when it is  
>>>>> running on
>>>>> battery power).
>>>>>
>>>>> What gives?? These noises are very distracting. Do they also  
>>>>> signal a
>>>>> more dangerous problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>>>>>
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From: lia bulaong <lia@bulaong.com>
Date: September 20, 2005 1:57:10 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: place to get cheap polaroid 500 film?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Anyone know where I can get some cheap Polaroid 500 (formerly known as
Captiva) film in the city? A friend gave me a Polaroid P500 printer and
I want to try printing photos out with it for a show I'm supposed to be
in. Is B&H my best bet?

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From: phoebe <phoebe@nyu.edu>
Date: September 20, 2005 2:41:36 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: place to get cheap polaroid 500 film?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Isn't the answer always Chinatown?
-p

On Sep 20, 2005, at 1:57 AM, lia bulaong wrote:

> Anyone know where I can get some cheap Polaroid 500 (formerly known as
> Captiva) film in the city? A friend gave me a Polaroid P500 printer  
> and
> I want to try printing photos out with it for a show I'm supposed  
> to be
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From: Brendan Fitzgerald <bf322@nyu.edu>
Date: September 28, 2005 1:44:01 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: place to get cheap polaroid 500 film?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


B & H is usually your best bet
but I've found really cheep
Polaroid at calumet.

you can call they're helpful.
they are also one of the few photos stores in
nyc that doesn't keep orthodox holidays.

Calumet Photographic
(212) 989-8500	16 W 19th St # Grd
New York, NY


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From: "jack . davis" <jack@panix.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 3:33:03 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: MPS equivalent to MFA
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This topic has been around before. My questions are: 1) is this true; 2)
where is it written?

thanks.

j


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From: jon marcel <jon@kinephoria.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 3:45:33 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: MPS equivalent to MFA
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

i guess the verity of the statement depends on what you define as
equivalency.

i would not say that an MPS connotes a mastry of one or more traditional
arts as does an MFA. however, both are terminal degrees in their
respective fields. the MPS just happens to refer to a different and more
commercially exploited (right now) medium than does the MFA.

i believe that the old ITP site had some copy that talked about the MPS
being a terminal degree, but i don't seem to see it anywhere on the new
site. my advice is to email george or midori and see if they can furnish
you with something in writing that explains the MPS and/or its
relationship to the MFA.

incidentally, i normalls side step this whole issue by saying that i  
have
a Masters in 'experimental technology' or 'interactive  
telecommunications'

hope this helps.

..j.






> This topic has been around before. My questions are: 1) is this  
> true; 2)
> where is it written?
>
> thanks.
>
> j
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From: lia bulaong <lia@bulaong.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 3:54:37 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: MPS equivalent to MFA
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I say I have a master's in "intergalactic teleportation", as suggested
to me by Scott's roommate (not the one he wants to get rid of).

jon marcel wrote:
> incidentally, i normalls side step this whole issue by saying that i
> have a Masters in 'experimental technology' or 'interactive
> telecommunications'

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From: Daniel Raffel <sumbits@thincvox.com>
Date: September 29, 2005 3:29:53 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: 1st New York Asterisk User Group meeting 10/04/2005
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

You are invited to attend, on Tuesday, October 4, 2005, the 1st New  
YorkAsterisk UserGroup meeting.

Mark Spencer, founder of Digium and creator of Asterisk, will be our  
featuredguest speaker.

Space is limited, so in order to attend you will need to RSVP at the  
emaillisted below:
sumbits@thincvox.com

The meeting is currently scheduled to take place at Columbia  
University startingat 6:15. Dueto space constraints I am looking  
around for larger venue space.

You will receive an email, the day before the event, to confirm the  
event details.

Please RSVP so that I can ensure we have enough space.
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Date: September 29, 2005 9:36:09 AM EDT
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Subject: Designing in CSS Class
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Hey list -- I've got someone here who I'd love to send to a CSS  
class, something for designers who know basic html to learn how to  
work really well in CSS. The companys' going to foot the ball on it,  
so price isn't an issue as much as having it condensed to be one week  
max, maybe a few days or a set of afternoons. Any ideas?

Thanks
Paul
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Date: September 28, 2005 2:02:00 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: great photo labs
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hello,

I'm sure this has been asked before, but I've searched all the old list
articles in my inbox about photo labs and couldn't find anything.

I need to hi quality prints form 4X5 Corm transparencies made of a
client.  I'm starting to hate every lab I go to. Babboo, 18th st, seem
to be getting worse.  I can't think of the last time I was really happy
with a print I had made.  Does anyone have a Professional lab they
really love?


Thanks,

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From: | maria | <new@thatproject.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 2:08:51 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: great photo labs
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hi,
I use Manhattan color labs (20th St) mostly ( Babboo really sucks big  
time) , they have decent prices, do a good job and never screwed up  
for me. But if I wanted to have the best work and the client pays, I  
would still use Duggal. Though they always screw something minor up,  
the thing never seems to go smooth, like they can't find the job and  
have to do it again... etc.

But hey, the world isn't perfect.

m.


On Sep 28, 2005, at 2:02 PM, Brendan Fitzgerald wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm sure this has been asked before, but I've searched all the old  
> list
> articles in my inbox about photo labs and couldn't find anything.
>
> I need to hi quality prints form 4X5 Corm transparencies made of a
> client.  I'm starting to hate every lab I go to. Babboo, 18th st, seem
> to be getting worse.  I can't think of the last time I was really  
> happy
> with a print I had made.  Does anyone have a Professional lab they
> really love?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> bf
>
>
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From: Happy Mia Gomes <happy.gomes@gmail.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 2:32:06 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: great photo labs
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

hi brendan,
I'd recommendc-lab on bleecker st and broadway.
another good one is west side color lab on 24th st and 7th ave.
happy



On 9/28/05, | maria | <new@thatproject.com> wrote:
Hi,
I use Manhattan color labs (20th St) mostly ( Babboo really sucks big
time) , they have decent prices, do a good job and never screwed up for
me. But if I wanted to have the best work and the client pays, I would
still use Duggal. Though they always screw something minor up, the
thing never seems to go smooth, like they can't find the job and have
to do it again... etc.

But hey, the world isn't perfect.

m.


On Sep 28, 2005, at 2:02 PM, Brendan Fitzgerald wrote:

 > Hello,
 >
 > I'm sure this has been asked before, but I've searched all the old  
list
 > articles in my inbox about photo labs and couldn't find anything.
 >
 > I need to hi quality prints form 4X5 Corm transparencies made of a
 > client.I'm starting to hate every lab I go to. Babboo, 18th st,  
seem
 > to be getting worse.I can't think of the last time I was really  
happy
 > with a print I had made.Does anyone have a Professional lab they
 > really love?
 >
 >
 > Thanks,
 >
 > bf
 >
 >
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Date: September 28, 2005 2:38:33 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: great photo labs
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I've had very good quality (and service) at Flatiron
lab, 17th and 6th (on 17th, 160 i think).

--- | maria | <new@thatproject.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> I use Manhattan color labs (20th St) mostly ( Babboo
> really sucks big
> time) , they have decent prices, do a good job and
> never screwed up for
> me. But if I wanted to have the best work and the
> client pays, I would
> still use Duggal. Though they always screw something
> minor up, the
> thing never seems to go smooth, like they can't find
> the job and have
> to do it again... etc.
>
> But hey, the world isn't perfect.
>
> m.
>
>
> On Sep 28, 2005, at 2:02 PM, Brendan Fitzgerald
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm sure this has been asked before, but I've
> searched all the old list
>> articles in my inbox about photo labs and couldn't
> find anything.
>>
>> I need to hi quality prints form 4X5 Corm
> transparencies made of a
>> client.  I'm starting to hate every lab I go to.
> Babboo, 18th st, seem
>> to be getting worse.  I can't think of the last
> time I was really happy
>> with a print I had made.  Does anyone have a
> Professional lab they
>> really love?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> bf
>>
>>
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From: "Nakiso a.k.a funfarmer" <itp@nakiso.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 3:06:15 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: great photo labs
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Hi,

I use L&I on w17 btw 5 + 6 or their 22nd street loc btw 5 & 6. Color  
Edge is not too bad either. Flatiron isn't bad too. It really all  
depends for B+W i use Lexington Black + White which is now part of  
Color Edge and they are great.
They will use whatever chemical you prefer, most places defer to T- 
Max but if you want X-tol they are the only one's i know who will  
offer you a range. FlatIron does it too for 4x5 film. Also Lex & Flat- 
iron do dip and dunk.

- Nakiso

Brendan Fitzgerald wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm sure this has been asked before, but I've searched all the old  
> list articles in my inbox about photo labs and couldn't find anything.
>
> I need to hi quality prints form 4X5 Corm transparencies made of a  
> client.  I'm starting to hate every lab I go to. Babboo, 18th st,  
> seem to be getting worse.  I can't think of the last time I was  
> really happy with a print I had made.  Does anyone have a  
> Professional lab they really love?
>
> Thanks,
> bf
>
>
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From: Marion Misilim <marion@cornerofmyeye.net>
Date: September 28, 2005 3:18:56 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: great photo labs
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Don't use ColorEdge, they are under new management this year and they  
are BIG BIG ASSHOLES!  Quality has gone way down, they are over  
priced and did I mention they are real jerks?

C-Lab is decent and you can get a discount for paying up front.  My  
favorite lab Bond Street Print Lab, I don't think makes prints from  
Chrome film but maybe.  Never tried Flatiron but I haven't heard  
anything bad about them either.  Duggal can be good.... it just  
depends if someone way more important than you has a job at the lab.

-m

On Sep 28, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Nakiso a.k.a funfarmer wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I use L&I on w17 btw 5 + 6 or their 22nd street loc btw 5 & 6.  
> Color Edge is not too bad either. Flatiron isn't bad too. It really  
> all depends for B+W i use Lexington Black + White which is now part  
> of Color Edge and they are great.
> They will use whatever chemical you prefer, most places defer to T- 
> Max but if you want X-tol they are the only one's i know who will  
> offer you a range. FlatIron does it too for 4x5 film. Also Lex &  
> Flat-iron do dip and dunk.
>
> - Nakiso
>
> Brendan Fitzgerald wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm sure this has been asked before, but I've searched all the old  
>> list articles in my inbox about photo labs and couldn't find  
>> anything.
>>
>> I need to hi quality prints form 4X5 Corm transparencies made of a  
>> client.  I'm starting to hate every lab I go to. Babboo, 18th st,  
>> seem to be getting worse.  I can't think of the last time I was  
>> really happy with a print I had made.  Does anyone have a  
>> Professional lab they really love?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> bf
>>
>>
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From: Nakiso <itp@nakiso.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 4:00:20 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: great photo labs
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hey Marion,

The B+W too? I haven't been to CEdge for a while and heard they had  
switched over to a new company. That would suck, although the B+W  
never functioned like CEdge. Wow!

Well L & I is still really great. I've done a bunch of chrome 4x5 to  
24x17 and they were great!

- N

>>> Marion Misilim<marion@cornerofmyeye.net> 09/28 3:18 PM >>>
Don't use ColorEdge, they are under new management this year and they
are BIG BIG ASSHOLES!  Quality has gone way down, they are over priced
and did I mention they are real jerks?

C-Lab is decent and you can get a discount for paying up front.  My
favorite lab Bond Street Print Lab, I don't think makes prints from
Chrome film but maybe.  Never tried Flatiron but I haven't heard
anything bad about them either.  Duggal can be good.... it just depends
if someone way more important than you has a job at the lab.

-m

On Sep 28, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Nakiso a.k.a funfarmer wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I use L&I on w17 btw 5 + 6 or their 22nd street loc btw 5 & 6. Color
> Edge is not too bad either. Flatiron isn't bad too. It really all
> depends for B+W i use Lexington Black + White which is now part of
> Color Edge and they are great.
> They will use whatever chemical you prefer, most places defer to T-Max
> but if you want X-tol they are the only one's i know who will offer
> you a range. FlatIron does it too for 4x5 film. Also Lex & Flat-iron
> do dip and dunk.
>
> - Nakiso
>
> Brendan Fitzgerald wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm sure this has been asked before, but I've searched all the old
>> list articles in my inbox about photo labs and couldn't find
>> anything.
>>
>> I need to hi quality prints form 4X5 Corm transparencies made of a
>> client.  I'm starting to hate every lab I go to. Babboo, 18th st,
>> seem to be getting worse.  I can't think of the last time I was
>> really happy with a print I had made.  Does anyone have a
>> Professional lab they really love?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> bf
>>
>>
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From: sherri wasserman <tinkerkid@yahoo.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 6:34:55 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: great photo labs
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

modernage on 6th ave around 42nd street.  they print
for some pretty amazing photographers, and they do all
the work for icp - among others.  they're both black
and white and color, digital and traditional.  peter
gravina's the best customer service guy there.

i haven't been to coloredge lately, but my one
experience with them about a year ago really creeped
me out.  i'm with marion - stay away.


--- Nakiso <itp@nakiso.com> wrote:

> Hey Marion,
>
> The B+W too? I haven't been to CEdge for a while and
> heard they had switched over to a new company. That
> would suck, although the B+W never functioned like
> CEdge. Wow!
>
> Well L & I is still really great. I've done a bunch
> of chrome 4x5 to 24x17 and they were great!
>
> - N
>
>>>> Marion Misilim<marion@cornerofmyeye.net> 09/28
> 3:18 PM >>>
> Don't use ColorEdge, they are under new management
> this year and they
> are BIG BIG ASSHOLES!  Quality has gone way down,
> they are over priced
> and did I mention they are real jerks?
>
> C-Lab is decent and you can get a discount for
> paying up front.  My
> favorite lab Bond Street Print Lab, I don't think
> makes prints from
> Chrome film but maybe.  Never tried Flatiron but I
> haven't heard
> anything bad about them either.  Duggal can be
> good.... it just depends
> if someone way more important than you has a job at
> the lab.
>
> -m
>
> On Sep 28, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Nakiso a.k.a funfarmer
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I use L&I on w17 btw 5 + 6 or their 22nd street
> loc btw 5 & 6. Color
>> Edge is not too bad either. Flatiron isn't bad
> too. It really all
>> depends for B+W i use Lexington Black + White
> which is now part of
>> Color Edge and they are great.
>> They will use whatever chemical you prefer, most
> places defer to T-Max
>> but if you want X-tol they are the only one's i
> know who will offer
>> you a range. FlatIron does it too for 4x5 film.
> Also Lex & Flat-iron
>> do dip and dunk.
>>
>> - Nakiso
>>
>> Brendan Fitzgerald wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm sure this has been asked before, but I've
> searched all the old
>>> list articles in my inbox about photo labs and
> couldn't find
>>> anything.
>>>
>>> I need to hi quality prints form 4X5 Corm
> transparencies made of a
>>> client.  I'm starting to hate every lab I go to.
> Babboo, 18th st,
>>> seem to be getting worse.  I can't think of the
> last time I was
>>> really happy with a print I had made.  Does
> anyone have a
>>> Professional lab they really love?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> bf
>>>
>>>
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From: Brendan Fitzgerald <bf322@nyu.edu>
Date: September 29, 2005 10:04:22 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: great photo labs
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Thanks everyone,

bf
----- Original Message -----
From: sherri wasserman <tinkerkid@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:34 pm
Subject: Re: great photo labs

> modernage on 6th ave around 42nd street.  they print
> for some pretty amazing photographers, and they do all
> the work for icp - among others.  they're both black
> and white and color, digital and traditional.  peter
> gravina's the best customer service guy there.
>
> i haven't been to coloredge lately, but my one
> experience with them about a year ago really creeped
> me out.  i'm with marion - stay away.
>
>
> --- Nakiso <itp@nakiso.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Marion,
>>
>> The B+W too? I haven't been to CEdge for a while and
>> heard they had switched over to a new company. That
>> would suck, although the B+W never functioned like
>> CEdge. Wow!
>>
>> Well L & I is still really great. I've done a bunch
>> of chrome 4x5 to 24x17 and they were great!
>>
>> - N
>>
>>>>> Marion Misilim<marion@cornerofmyeye.net> 09/28
>> 3:18 PM >>>
>> Don't use ColorEdge, they are under new management
>> this year and they
>> are BIG BIG ASSHOLES!  Quality has gone way down,
>> they are over priced
>> and did I mention they are real jerks?
>>
>> C-Lab is decent and you can get a discount for
>> paying up front.  My
>> favorite lab Bond Street Print Lab, I don't think
>> makes prints from
>> Chrome film but maybe.  Never tried Flatiron but I
>> haven't heard
>> anything bad about them either.  Duggal can be
>> good.... it just depends
>> if someone way more important than you has a job at
>> the lab.
>>
>> -m
>>
>> On Sep 28, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Nakiso a.k.a funfarmer
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I use L&I on w17 btw 5 + 6 or their 22nd street
>> loc btw 5 & 6. Color
>>> Edge is not too bad either. Flatiron isn't bad
>> too. It really all
>>> depends for B+W i use Lexington Black + White
>> which is now part of
>>> Color Edge and they are great.
>>> They will use whatever chemical you prefer, most
>> places defer to T-Max
>>> but if you want X-tol they are the only one's i
>> know who will offer
>>> you a range. FlatIron does it too for 4x5 film.
>> Also Lex & Flat-iron
>>> do dip and dunk.
>>>
>>> - Nakiso
>>>
>>> Brendan Fitzgerald wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure this has been asked before, but I've
>> searched all the old
>>>> list articles in my inbox about photo labs and
>> couldn't find
>>>> anything.
>>>>
>>>> I need to hi quality prints form 4X5 Corm
>> transparencies made of a
>>>> client.  I'm starting to hate every lab I go to.
>> Babboo, 18th st,
>>>> seem to be getting worse.  I can't think of the
>> last time I was
>>>> really happy with a print I had made.  Does
>> anyone have a
>>>> Professional lab they really love?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> bf
>>>>
>>>>
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From: ann poochareon <itp@miserychick.net>
Date: September 29, 2005 10:38:28 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: great projects
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

just sharing info... figured some of you might appreciate it (if you  
haven't seen already), it's ITP on hyperdrive

i was at 100% east design show in london last weekend, and saw these  
guys showcasing their "pixel roller" -- a paint roller that rolls out  
image of your digital photos.  the rest of their projects are also  
very very good...  fresh grads from RCA

check em out!

http://random-international.squarespace.com/

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From: ana busto <abusto@earthlink.net>
Date: September 29, 2005 10:47:16 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: great projects
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

That is a fantastic roller.
ana

On Sep 29, 2005, at 10:38 AM, ann poochareon wrote:


> just sharing info... figured some of you might appreciate it (if  
> you haven't seen already), it's ITP on hyperdrive
>
> i was at 100% east design show in london last weekend, and saw  
> these guys showcasing their "pixel roller" -- a paint roller that  
> rolls out image of your digital photos.  the rest of their projects  
> are also very very good...  fresh grads from RCA
>
> check em out!
>
> http://random-international.squarespace.com/
>
> -ann
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From: Jody Culkin <jhc5list@yahoo.com>
Date: September 29, 2005 12:09:58 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Fwd: Purdue University: ASSISTANT PROFESSOR OF NEW MEDIA/ 
INTERMEDIA position available
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


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09/28/05










ASSISTANT PROFESSOR OF NEW MEDIA/INTERMEDIA
COLLEGE OF LIBERAL ARTS
Patti and Rusty Rueff Department of Visual and Performing Arts

Position Entry level, tenure track academic year appointment  
beginning August 14, 2006.

Salary Commensurate with experience and qualifications.

Responsibilities Teach cross-disciplinary courses and develop  
curriculum in New Media/Intermedia across the four divisions of the  
Patti and Rusty Rueff Department of Visual and Performing Arts and in  
association with the Purdue University Envision Center for Data  
Perceptualization. Courses taught will depend upon candidates areas  
of expertise. Possibilities include: net art, computer animation,  
computer-mediated performance and object art, video installation,  
video design for dance and theatre, design as performance, show  
control systems, Max/MSP/Jitter, scripting and/or programming for  
visual and performance artists, and related areas. Continuing  
professional work in creative endeavors and/or research beyond Purdue  
University is required as is participation in usual departmental  
activities.

Qualifications M.F.A. or equivalent professional experience required.  
Professional experience and university teaching preferred. Applicant  
must be a practicing New Media/Intermedia artist with a strong  
theoretical basis and have expertise in two or more of the following:  
motion capture, CAVE technology, motion graphics, tele-presence,  
robotic or sensor-based technology, performance art, programming and/ 
or scripting, human-machine interface, virtual reality, or other  
related areas.

Department The Patti and Rusty Rueff Department of Visual and  
Performing Arts is comprised of four divisions (Art & Design, Dance,  
Music, and Theatre) and has more than 950 undergraduate majors, 57  
graduate students, 58 faculty and 15 professional and administrative  
staff members.

Facilities The Yue-Kong Pao Hall of Visual and Performing Arts is a  
state-of-the-art facility with eleven computer labs, design and  
performance studios with integrated technology, and rehearsal,  
performance, and exhibit spaces dedicated to the visual and  
performing arts. Audio production studio and performance spaces,  
music computing, visualization of three-dimensional objects and  
environments, motion capture, digital photography, and digital  
textile production are some of the technologies available to support  
a wide range of experimental techniques, research., and teaching.  
http://www.cla.purdue.edu/academic/vpa/. The Envision Center for Data  
Perceptualization is an interdisciplinary, high-performance  
visualization teaching and research facility that supports computer  
graphics, advanced visualization, and human computer interface  
technologies such as auditory, haptic, and multimodal interaction.  
These technologies are integrated with state-of-the-art advanced  
computational networking and high-end immersive visualization  
environments. http://www.envision.purdue.edu

Procedure Send a letter of introduction, a resume of professional and  
(where applicable) academic experience, a digital portfolio (CDs,  
DVDs, websites, etc.) of representative work, copies of reviews of  
art works (if available), a statement of teaching interests and  
(where applicable) previous teaching experience, three names and  
contact information of current references, and a self-addressed  
stamped envelope for the return of visual materials to:

Star Brown, Administrative Assistant to the Department Head
Yue-Kong Pao Hall for Visual and Performing Arts
552 West Wood Street
Purdue University
West Lafayette, IN 47907-2002

Application The preferential deadline is January 31, 2006. Screening  
will continue until the position is filled.

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From: Nakiso <itp@nakiso.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 4:31:59 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are out there?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hi Listland,

Yes, I have referred to the bigger brain (a.k.a Google) but I thought  
I would ask the wise oracle land of list. I'm trying to find out how  
many South American beer varieties are available or that people know  
about. They don't have to be in NYC, but it would be great. So the  
Beer afficionados might know. I mean everything including micro-brews  
etc. Thanks,

- Nakiso



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From: Sarah Gray <sarah@fabled.net>
Date: September 28, 2005 4:34:49 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are out there?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Nakiso,

Sounds like you are starting a bar, based on this and your earlier  
post. Is this true?

-- Sherlock Holmes

Nakiso wrote:
> Hi Listland,
> Yes, I have referred to the bigger brain (a.k.a Google) but I  
> thought I would ask the wise oracle land of list. I'm trying to  
> find out how many South American beer varieties are available or  
> that people know about. They don't have to be in NYC, but it would  
> be great. So the Beer afficionados might know. I mean everything  
> including micro-brews etc. Thanks,
> - Nakiso
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From: renato kaufmann <renato.kaufmann@gmail.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 4:46:07 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are out there?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

A big whole bunch of them.
You'll start seeing Brahma everywhere - delis on the E village have  
it already. Good beer.
they just launched internationally. I friend of mine reported seeing  
that everywhere in Russia and Estonia.
Also, those specialty shops with a hundred different bottles on the  
window have a few others...
I'd say keep an eye for

Baden Baden
Bohemia
Xingu
Original

But since you are opening a cool bar, It's Cachaa you should worry  
about!
Stay away from Pitu, Velho Barreiro and Ypioca. (or use it to  
degrease your bike)
but keep an eye on cachaas (aka Pinga) from Minas Gerais, specially  
the Salinas region.
They can get as good as (some say better than) 12y whiskey...

Renato


On 9/28/05, Nakiso <itp@nakiso.com> wrote:
Hi Listland,

Yes, I have referred to the bigger brain (a.k.a Google) but I thought  
I would ask the wise oracle land of list. I'm trying to find out how  
many South American beer varieties are available or that people know  
about. They don't have to be in NYC, but it would be great. So the  
Beer afficionados might know. I mean everything including micro-brews  
etc. Thanks,

- Nakiso



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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Michelle Kempner  
<guarana63@gmail.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 4:48:25 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are out there?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Yay for cachaa!  and for brahma!

On 9/28/05, renato kaufmann <renato.kaufmann@gmail.com> wrote:
> A big whole bunch of them.
>  You'll start seeing Brahma everywhere - delis on the E village  
> have it
> already. Good beer.
>  they just launched internationally. I friend of mine reported  
> seeing that
> everywhere in Russia and Estonia.
>  Also, those specialty shops with a hundred different bottles on  
> the window
> have a few others...
>  I'd say keep an eye for
>
>  Baden Baden
>  Bohemia
> Xingu
>  Original
>
>  But since you are opening a cool bar, It's Cachaa you should  
> worry about!
>  Stay away from Pitu, Velho Barreiro and Ypioca. (or use it to  
> degrease your
> bike)
>  but keep an eye on cachaas (aka Pinga) from Minas Gerais,  
> specially the
> Salinas region.
>  They can get as good as (some say better than) 12y whiskey...
>
>  Renato
>
>
> On 9/28/05, Nakiso <itp@nakiso.com> wrote:
>> Hi Listland,
>>
>> Yes, I have referred to the bigger brain (a.k.a Google) but I  
>> thought I
> would ask the wise oracle land of list. I'm trying to find out how  
> many
> South American beer varieties are available or that people know  
> about. They
> don't have to be in NYC, but it would be great. So the Beer  
> afficionados
> might know. I mean everything including micro-brews etc. Thanks,
>>
>> - Nakiso
>>
>>
>>
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From: davila@media-matters.net
Date: September 28, 2005 4:52:41 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: South American Beers - How many are out there?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Samba is a good Brazilian (duh) beer, supposedly aromatized with  
Cachaa.
Dvila

From: renato kaufmann [mailto:renato.kaufmann@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:46 PM
To: ITP Alumni
Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are out there?

A big whole bunch of them.
You'll start seeing Brahma everywhere - delis on the E village have  
it already. Good beer.
they just launched internationally. I friend of mine reported seeing  
that everywhere in Russia and Estonia.
Also, those specialty shops with a hundred different bottles on the  
window have a few others...
I'd say keep an eye for

Baden Baden
Bohemia
Xingu
Original

But since you are opening a cool bar, It's Cachaa you should worry  
about!
Stay away from Pitu, Velho Barreiro and Ypioca. (or use it to  
degrease your bike)
but keep an eye on cachaas (aka Pinga) from Minas Gerais, specially  
the Salinas region.
They can get as good as (some say better than) 12y whiskey...

Renato

On 9/28/05, Nakiso <itp@nakiso.com> wrote:
Hi Listland,

Yes, I have referred to the bigger brain (a.k.a Google) but I thought  
I would ask the wise oracle land of list. I'm trying to find out how  
many South American beer varieties are available or that people know  
about. They don't have to be in NYC, but it would be great. So the  
Beer afficionados might know. I mean everything including micro-brews  
etc. Thanks,

- Nakiso



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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: "Nakiso a.k.a funfarmer"  
<itp@nakiso.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 5:06:08 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are out there?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Doh! Sherlock got me again!!!!!

Shhhhh! That is half correct! I'm exploring....exploring the  
possibilities of being a beer drinker with a South American focus.  
The bars (aka bar hoppin') are on behalf of a friend who has a bar in  
the LES, an excellent wine spot focusing on Southern Italian  
vino....exquisite! They have vino to die for. So he's curious about  
the competition...and so we're doing a group check out what the  
competitors are doing thingy.

The second is a request for another friend who is convinced that  
there is a poor representation of SAmerican beers, I can't argue or  
confirm/deny since i don't know beer (nor drink it for that matter!).

But were i to start a bar, i will broadcast and listee's would be  
invited one and all, for my beer would be interactive, as well :)

You can touch your beer and say hhmmmm. And Super Dave (shout-out to  
Dave Derby) and his band could play while Goldie + Carlos hit us with  
some maxxed out video funk


- Nakiso


Sarah Gray wrote:

> Nakiso,
>
> Sounds like you are starting a bar, based on this and your earlier  
> post. Is this true?
>
> -- Sherlock Holmes
>
> Nakiso wrote:
>
>> Hi Listland,
>>
>> Yes, I have referred to the bigger brain (a.k.a Google) but I  
>> thought I would ask the wise oracle land of list. I'm trying to  
>> find out how many South American beer varieties are available or  
>> that people know about. They don't have to be in NYC, but it would  
>> be great. So the Beer afficionados might know. I mean everything  
>> including micro-brews etc. Thanks,
>>
>> - Nakiso
>>
>>
>>
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From: renato kaufmann <renato.kaufmann@gmail.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 5:19:39 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are out there?
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I love beer, and I love cachaa, but separated!
Although if you like Tequiza beer (beer with tequila), you might also  
like Samba (which I never tried...)



On 9/28/05, davila@media-matters.net <davila@media-matters.net > wrote:
Samba is a good Brazilian (duh) beer, supposedly "aromatized" with  
Cachaa.
Dvila

From: renato kaufmann [mailto:renato.kaufmann@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:46 PM
To: ITP Alumni
Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are out there?

A big whole bunch of them.
You'll start seeing Brahma everywhere - delis on the E village have  
it already. Good beer.
they just launched internationally. I friend of mine reported seeing  
that everywhere in Russia and Estonia.
Also, those specialty shops with a hundred different bottles on the  
window have a few others...
I'd say keep an eye for

Baden Baden
Bohemia
Xingu
Original

But since you are opening a cool bar, It's Cachaa you should worry  
about!
Stay away from Pitu, Velho Barreiro and Ypioca. (or use it to  
degrease your bike)
but keep an eye on cachaas (aka Pinga) from Minas Gerais, specially  
the Salinas region.
They can get as good as (some say better than) 12y whiskey...

Renato

On 9/28/05, Nakiso <itp@nakiso.com> wrote:
Hi Listland,

Yes, I have referred to the bigger brain (a.k.a Google) but I thought  
I would ask the wise oracle land of list. I'm trying to find out how  
many South American beer varieties are available or that people know  
about. They don't have to be in NYC, but it would be great. So the  
Beer afficionados might know. I mean everything including micro-brews  
etc. Thanks,

- Nakiso



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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: "Nancy D. Lewis"  
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Date: September 28, 2005 6:21:23 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are out there?
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Sounds like a question for:
http://www.briansbelly.com/

Especially the beer belly section:
http://www.briansbelly.com/beerbelly/

Nancy
---------------
Nancy D. Lewis
ndlewis@echonyc.com
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From: Jaime Villarreal <jesusjaime@gmail.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 6:46:44 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are out there?
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I guess Mexico doesn't technically qualify as South America but if  
you are interested....
Casta is a great microlabel from Monterrey with a few different ales  
that are very tasty. The two large beer distributors in Mexico are  
Cerveceria Cuahtemoc Moctezuma and Grupo Modelo. Cerveceria Cuahtemoc  
produces Noche Buena which is a great lager if you can get your hands  
on it (only available around the Christmas Holidays). They also  
produce Bohemia and XX both of which you already know and may or may  
not convinced by but also Indio a local mainstream beer I drink  
regularly. I also like Victoria on an average day which is  
distributed by Grupo Modelo, the same people who distribute Negro  
Modelo in the states. They also produce two tasty if not extravagant  
beers Leon (Munich style) and Montejo (a pilsner) at their brewery in  
the Yucatan peninsula which is pretty close to being South America.

I don't know if it's true of South America but pretty much all of the  
beers in Mexico originally come from German or Austrian recipes  
anyway. If you want to experience a truly Mexican beverage try  
pulque, a fermented drink produced from the Maguey cactus. Next time  
you're in Mexico City I'll take you to the pulqueria around the  
corner from where I live for a few curados. It's not exported because  
it can't be bottled or preserved.
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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Jaime Villarreal  
<jesusjaime@gmail.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 6:49:22 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are out there?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Sorry just realized I misspelled Cervecera Cuauhtmoc.

On 9/28/05, Jaime Villarreal <jesusjaime@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess Mexico doesn't technically qualify as South America but if  
you are interested....
Casta is a great microlabel from Monterrey with a few different ales  
that are very tasty. The two large beer distributors in Mexico are  
Cerveceria Cuahtemoc Moctezuma and Grupo Modelo. Cerveceria Cuahtemoc  
produces Noche Buena which is a great lager if you can get your hands  
on it (only available around the Christmas Holidays). They also  
produce Bohemia and XX both of which you already know and may or may  
not convinced by but also Indio a local mainstream beer I drink  
regularly. I also like Victoria on an average day which is  
distributed by Grupo Modelo, the same people who distribute Negro  
Modelo in the states. They also produce two tasty if not extravagant  
beers Leon (Munich style) and Montejo (a pilsner) at their brewery in  
the Yucatan peninsula which is pretty close to being South America.

I don't know if it's true of South America but pretty much all of the  
beers in Mexico originally come from German or Austrian recipes  
anyway. If you want to experience a truly Mexican beverage try  
pulque, a fermented drink produced from the Maguey cactus. Next time  
you're in Mexico City I'll take you to the pulqueria around the  
corner from where I live for a few curados. It's not exported because  
it can't be bottled or preserved.

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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: luis alvarez y alvarez  
<luis@fin4.org>
Date: September 28, 2005 10:02:19 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are out there?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Jaime,
Can you tell us what is used to ferment pulque?
Luis.

On Sep 28, 2005, at 6:49 PM, Jaime Villarreal wrote:
Sorry just realized I misspelled Cervecera Cuauhtmoc.

On 9/28/05, Jaime Villarreal <jesusjaime@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess Mexico doesn't technically qualify as South America but if  
you are interested....
Casta is a great microlabel from Monterrey with a few different ales  
that are very tasty. The two large beer distributors in Mexico are  
Cerveceria Cuahtemoc Moctezuma and Grupo Modelo. Cerveceria Cuahtemoc  
produces Noche Buena which is a great lager if you can get your hands  
on it (only available around the Christmas Holidays). They also  
produce Bohemia and XX both of which you already know and may or may  
not convinced by but also Indio a local mainstream beer I drink  
regularly. I also like Victoria on an average day which is  
distributed by Grupo Modelo, the same people who distribute Negro  
Modelo in the states. They also produce two tasty if not extravagant  
beers Leon (Munich style) and Montejo (a pilsner) at their brewery in  
the Yucatan peninsula which is pretty close to being South America.

I don't know if it's true of South America but pretty much all of the  
beers in Mexico originally come from German or Austrian recipes  
anyway. If you want to experience a truly Mexican beverage try  
pulque, a fermented drink produced from the Maguey cactus. Next time  
you're in Mexico City I'll take you to the pulqueria around the  
corner from where I live for a few curados. It's not exported because  
it can't be bottled or preserved.

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From: Christopher Sung <sung@wholenote.com>
Date: September 28, 2005 10:17:09 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: South American Beers - How many are out there?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Also in the non-SA category but closegeographically and outstanding  
in tasteis the Dominican-made pilsner, El Presidente.

Isn't it time you deposed one today (instead of Bus[c]h)?!?

Sorry. I got carried away.
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From: Jaime Villarreal [mailto:jesusjaime@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:47 PM
To: ITP Alumni
Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are out there?

I guess Mexico doesn't technically qualify as South America but if  
you are interested....
Casta is a great microlabel from Monterrey with a few different ales  
that are very tasty. The two large beer distributors in Mexico are  
Cerveceria Cuahtemoc Moctezuma and Grupo Modelo. Cerveceria Cuahtemoc  
produces Noche Buena which is a great lager if you can get your hands  
on it (only available around the Christmas Holidays). They also  
produce Bohemia and XX both of which you already know and may or may  
not convinced by but also Indio a local mainstream beer I drink  
regularly. I also like Victoria on an average day which is  
distributed by Grupo Modelo, the same people who distribute Negro  
Modelo in the states. They also produce two tasty if not extravagant  
beers Leon (Munich style) and Montejo (a pilsner) at their brewery in  
the Yucatan peninsula which is pretty close to being South America.

I don't know if it's true of South America but pretty much all of the  
beers in Mexico originally come from German or Austrian recipes  
anyway. If you want to experience a truly Mexican beverage try  
pulque, a fermented drink produced from the Maguey cactus. Next time  
you're in Mexico City I'll take you to the pulqueria around the  
corner from where I live for a few curados. It's not exported because  
it can't be bottled or preserved.
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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Nakiso <itp@nakiso.com>
Date: September 29, 2005 9:38:17 AM EDT
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Subject: RE: South American Beers - How many are out there?
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Wow! Thanks everyone. This has been truly educational, and dang  
Jaime, glad you're on the an Official of the Mexicana Beer Federation  
(I just made that up) Awesome list man. But I must say, there must be  
some Venezuela, Colombia, Argentina, Peruvian, you get the  
picture...beers out there?!?
The Brazilain's represented!!!! It is sad to think though, that there  
hasto be a fair amount of local stuff we just don't get over here.  
Anyway, thank you everyone, I welcome any others anytime.

- Nakiso


>>> Christopher Sung<sung@wholenote.com> 09/28 10:17 PM >>>
Also in the non-SA category but close geographically and outstanding in
taste is the Dominican-made pilsner, El Presidente.

Isn't it time you deposed one today (instead of Bus[c]h)?!?

Sorry.  I got carried away.
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Jaime Villarreal [mailto:jesusjaime@gmail.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:47 PM
   To: ITP Alumni
   Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are out there?


   I guess Mexico doesn't technically qualify as South America but if  
you are
interested....
   Casta is a great microlabel  from Monterrey with a few different  
ales that
are very tasty. The two large beer distributors in Mexico are Cerveceria
Cuahtemoc Moctezuma and Grupo Modelo. Cerveceria Cuahtemoc produces  
Noche
Buena which is a great lager if you can get your hands on it (only  
available
around the Christmas Holidays). They also produce Bohemia and XX both of
which you already know and may or may not convinced by but also Indio a
local mainstream beer I drink regularly. I also like Victoria on an  
average
day which is distributed by Grupo Modelo, the same people who distribute
Negro Modelo in the states. They also produce two tasty if not  
extravagant
beers Leon (Munich style) and Montejo (a pilsner) at their brewery in  
the
Yucatan peninsula which is pretty close to being South America.

   I don't know if it's true of South America but pretty much all of the
beers in Mexico originally come from German or Austrian recipes  
anyway. If
you want to experience a truly Mexican beverage try pulque, a fermented
drink produced from the Maguey cactus. Next time you're in Mexico  
City I'll
take you to the pulqueria around the corner from where I live for a few
curados. It's not exported because it can't be bottled or preserved.
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From: Jeffrey E Galusha <jg1084@nyu.edu>
Date: September 29, 2005 10:26:33 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: RE: South American Beers - How many are out there?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Bolivian beer or bier

The majority of Bolivians would not be surprised by Delays step down
because curription is everywhere.  Who is to blame?  Certainly Bolivian
politicians.  Their grafting is legendary and thus everybody is on the
take, from mayor to beat cops.

Reciently Chavez from Venezuela blamed the US for Bolivia's troubles.

so here is some very political beer in a very political country.

Pacena is the largest owned beer company that is owned by a former truck
driver for the company.  Maybe he was shipping more than beer?  other
beers include
El Inca, Brock, Centarnario, Astra, Potosina, and Cochabamba's Taquina.


take a look at the labels
http://thorin.adnc.com/~blogan/BeerLabel.html

and politics
http://www.boliviatimes.com
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4086452.stm


----- Original Message -----
From: Nakiso <itp@nakiso.com>
Date: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:38 am
Subject: RE: South American Beers - How many are out there?

> Wow! Thanks everyone. This has been truly educational, and dang
> Jaime, glad you're on the an Official of the Mexicana Beer
> Federation (I just made that up) Awesome list man. But I must say,
> there must be some Venezuela, Colombia, Argentina, Peruvian, you
> get the picture...beers out there?!?
> The Brazilain's represented!!!! It is sad to think though, that
> there hasto be a fair amount of local stuff we just don't get over
> here. Anyway, thank you everyone, I welcome any others anytime.
>
> - Nakiso
>
>
>>>> Christopher Sung<sung@wholenote.com> 09/28 10:17 PM >>>
> Also in the non-SA category but close geographically and
> outstanding in
> taste is the Dominican-made pilsner, El Presidente.
>
> Isn't it time you deposed one today (instead of Bus[c]h)?!?
>
> Sorry.  I got carried away.
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Jaime Villarreal [mailto:jesusjaime@gmail.com]
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:47 PM
>  To: ITP Alumni
>  Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are out there?
>
>
>  I guess Mexico doesn't technically qualify as South America but
> if you are
> interested....
>  Casta is a great microlabel  from Monterrey with a few different
> ales that
> are very tasty. The two large beer distributors in Mexico are
> CerveceriaCuahtemoc Moctezuma and Grupo Modelo. Cerveceria
> Cuahtemoc produces Noche
> Buena which is a great lager if you can get your hands on it (only
> availablearound the Christmas Holidays). They also produce Bohemia
> and XX both of
> which you already know and may or may not convinced by but also
> Indio a
> local mainstream beer I drink regularly. I also like Victoria on an
> averageday which is distributed by Grupo Modelo, the same people
> who distribute
> Negro Modelo in the states. They also produce two tasty if not
> extravagantbeers Leon (Munich style) and Montejo (a pilsner) at
> their brewery in the
> Yucatan peninsula which is pretty close to being South America.
>
>  I don't know if it's true of South America but pretty much all of
> thebeers in Mexico originally come from German or Austrian recipes
> anyway. If
> you want to experience a truly Mexican beverage try pulque, a
> fermenteddrink produced from the Maguey cactus. Next time you're in
> Mexico City I'll
> take you to the pulqueria around the corner from where I live for a
> fewcurados. It's not exported because it can't be bottled or
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From: "j.m parada" <parada_jm@yahoo.com>
Date: September 29, 2005 12:00:08 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: South American Beers - How many are out there?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

You are missing Colombian Beer:
The Big Ones -
Bavaria
Club Colombia
Aguila
Polar (Venezuela)

There is also a mircro brewery in Bogota that produces
really good lagers, bocks, porters, ambers, etc. It's
called something like "Bogota Brewery Co."

Cheers(hic),
jmp

--- Christopher Sung <sung@wholenote.com> wrote:

> Also in the non-SA category but close geographically
> and outstanding in
> taste is the Dominican-made pilsner, El Presidente.
>
> Isn't it time you deposed one today (instead of
> Bus[c]h)?!?
>
> Sorry.  I got carried away.
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Jaime Villarreal
> [mailto:jesusjaime@gmail.com]
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:47 PM
>   To: ITP Alumni
>   Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are
> out there?
>
>
>   I guess Mexico doesn't technically qualify as
> South America but if you are
> interested....
>   Casta is a great microlabel  from Monterrey with a
> few different ales that
> are very tasty. The two large beer distributors in
> Mexico are Cerveceria
> Cuahtemoc Moctezuma and Grupo Modelo. Cerveceria
> Cuahtemoc produces Noche
> Buena which is a great lager if you can get your
> hands on it (only available
> around the Christmas Holidays). They also produce
> Bohemia and XX both of
> which you already know and may or may not convinced
> by but also Indio a
> local mainstream beer I drink regularly. I also like
> Victoria on an average
> day which is distributed by Grupo Modelo, the same
> people who distribute
> Negro Modelo in the states. They also produce two
> tasty if not extravagant
> beers Leon (Munich style) and Montejo (a pilsner) at
> their brewery in the
> Yucatan peninsula which is pretty close to being
> South America.
>
>   I don't know if it's true of South America but
> pretty much all of the
> beers in Mexico originally come from German or
> Austrian recipes anyway. If
> you want to experience a truly Mexican beverage try
> pulque, a fermented
> drink produced from the Maguey cactus. Next time
> you're in Mexico City I'll
> take you to the pulqueria around the corner from
> where I live for a few
> curados. It's not exported because it can't be
> bottled or preserved.
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From: luis alvarez y alvarez <luis@fin4.org>
Date: September 29, 2005 12:16:54 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are out there?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Since Jaime is not telling us how pulque is fermented here it goes:

"Pulque makers sometimes use various fruit to accelerate  
fermentation. In traditional pulque,
a mueca ("doll") was used - a rag or sock filled with human feces  
and dipped to start the
fermentation process."

enjoy your curadito Jaime.
L.


On Sep 28, 2005, at 10:02 PM, luis alvarez y alvarez wrote:

> Jaime,
> Can you tell us what is used to ferment pulque?
> Luis.
>
> On Sep 28, 2005, at 6:49 PM, Jaime Villarreal wrote:
>
>> Sorry just realized I misspelled Cervecera Cuauhtmoc.
>>
>> On 9/28/05, Jaime Villarreal <jesusjaime@gmail.com> wrote: I guess  
>> Mexico doesn't technically qualify as South America but if you are  
>> interested....
>> Casta is a great microlabel  from Monterrey with a few different  
>> ales that are very tasty. The two large beer distributors in  
>> Mexico are Cerveceria Cuahtemoc Moctezuma and Grupo Modelo.  
>> Cerveceria Cuahtemoc produces Noche Buena which is a great lager  
>> if you can get your hands on it (only available around the  
>> Christmas Holidays). They also produce Bohemia and XX both of  
>> which you already know and may or may not convinced by but also  
>> Indio a local mainstream beer I drink regularly. I also like  
>> Victoria on an average day which is distributed by Grupo Modelo,  
>> the same people who distribute Negro Modelo in the states. They  
>> also produce two tasty if not extravagant beers Leon (Munich  
>> style) and Montejo (a pilsner) at their brewery in the Yucatan  
>> peninsula which is pretty close to being South America.
>>
>> I don't know if it's true of South America but pretty much all of  
>> the beers in Mexico originally come from German or Austrian  
>> recipes anyway. If you want to experience a truly Mexican beverage  
>> try pulque, a fermented drink produced from the Maguey cactus.  
>> Next time you're in Mexico City I'll take you to the pulqueria  
>> around the corner from where I live for a few curados. It's not  
>> exported because it can't be bottled or preserved.
>>
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From: Nakiso <itp@nakiso.com>
Date: September 29, 2005 12:32:31 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: South American Beers - How many are out there?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Luis,

are you shittin me? lol

- N

>>> luis alvarez y alvarez<luis@fin4.org> 09/29 12:16 PM >>>
Since Jaime is not telling us how pulque is fermented here it goes:

"Pulque makers sometimes use various fruit to accelerate
fermentation. In traditional pulque,
a mueca ("doll") was used - a rag or sock filled with human feces
and dipped to start the
fermentation process."

enjoy your curadito Jaime.
L.


On Sep 28, 2005, at 10:02 PM, luis alvarez y alvarez wrote:

> Jaime,
> Can you tell us what is used to ferment pulque?
> Luis.
>
> On Sep 28, 2005, at 6:49 PM, Jaime Villarreal wrote:
>
>> Sorry just realized I misspelled Cervecera Cuauhtmoc.
>>
>> On 9/28/05, Jaime Villarreal <jesusjaime@gmail.com> wrote: I guess
>> Mexico doesn't technically qualify as South America but if you are
>> interested....
>> Casta is a great microlabel  from Monterrey with a few different
>> ales that are very tasty. The two large beer distributors in
>> Mexico are Cerveceria Cuahtemoc Moctezuma and Grupo Modelo.
>> Cerveceria Cuahtemoc produces Noche Buena which is a great lager
>> if you can get your hands on it (only available around the
>> Christmas Holidays). They also produce Bohemia and XX both of
>> which you already know and may or may not convinced by but also
>> Indio a local mainstream beer I drink regularly. I also like
>> Victoria on an average day which is distributed by Grupo Modelo,
>> the same people who distribute Negro Modelo in the states. They
>> also produce two tasty if not extravagant beers Leon (Munich
>> style) and Montejo (a pilsner) at their brewery in the Yucatan
>> peninsula which is pretty close to being South America.
>>
>> I don't know if it's true of South America but pretty much all of
>> the beers in Mexico originally come from German or Austrian
>> recipes anyway. If you want to experience a truly Mexican beverage
>> try pulque, a fermented drink produced from the Maguey cactus.
>> Next time you're in Mexico City I'll take you to the pulqueria
>> around the corner from where I live for a few curados. It's not
>> exported because it can't be bottled or preserved.
>>
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From: Edward Gordon <ejg4@homemail.nyu.edu>
Date: September 29, 2005 12:32:57 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RajGoel: Job Opening
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

RajGoel: Job Opening

Job Qualifications Candidates should have mid-level to senior-level  
experience in all of the following:

* Solaris 7,8, 9
* Veritas Volume Manager 3.x, 4.x
* Veritas Cluster Server 3.x
* System Administration (Account management, network configuration,
file system configuration)
* Performance Troubleshooting
* Hardware remediation (Hard Drives, Processor, Memory, System Boards)
* Data Backups and Restores including BCVs
* Legato backup Systems
* EMC Timefinder
* Strong communication skills and organizational sense * Strong  
Troubleshooting and Problem Resolution Skills

II. Knowledge

The candidate must have the ability to quickly identify OS and  
performance
related problems on a wide variety of SUN platforms; HP is a plus.
Detailed knowledge of Veritas Volume Manager and Legato are  
mandatory. Excellent System admin skills in Solaris 7, 8 and 9 are a  
must
Working knowledge of storage area networking is required.
Excellent communication skills and the ability to be client-facing is  
an absolute must.
Have good general knowledge of IT security and networking.
Work in a fast-paced, high pressure environment.
Have flexible working hours.

The client does not want recruiters, brokers or off-shore firms. This  
is a onsite, fulltime, permanent position.

Please contact Dave Gutierrez <dave@anysystem.com>



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From: "Christina T. Goodness" <goodness@nyu.edu>
Date: September 27, 2005 11:00:54 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: JOB: Interaction Designer, Motorola
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

INTERACTION DESIGNER
MOTOROLA INC.

Motorola, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, has a permanent, full-time  
opportunity
available for an Interaction Designer.

We are in need of a world-class interaction designer to design  
innovative
next generation user-interfaces for wireless and mobile devices. The
majority of the interaction design work will be centered on wireless
communication products?cell phones, two-way radios, etc.

Qualifications and Experience

- An advanced degree in Human-Computer Interaction, Interaction Design,
User
Interface Design or similar relevant topic.
- Demonstrable expertise with multimedia prototyping tools.
- An understanding of human factors issues or the behavioral sciences
(demonstrable by training or course-work) will be an advantage.
- Work experience may include UI development for wireless/mobile devices
and
PC/MAC/Internet applications.
- Some experience in the realm of speech-based user-interfaces will  
be an
advantage.

Responsibilities and Skills

- Translate abstract concepts and ideas - from information obtained from
customer research - into low fidelity prototypes (e.g., hand-drawn
sketches,
PowerPoint simulations) and progressively develop them into high- 
fidelity
Macromedia Director (and similar) prototypes.
- Assist in iterative usability testing of your prototypes throughout  
the
development cycle
- Be self-motivating and take leadership and ownership of the design and
development of the user interface.
- Integrate effectively into a multidisciplinary group that includes  
human
factors specialists, cognitive and behavioral scientists, interaction
designers, industrial designers, and deliver to strict deadlines in a  
fast
paced environment.

Other Requirements

- Excellent verbal, written, artistic and graphical communication skills
- Allied interests in any one or more of the following: art, design,
sketching, interactive-technology (games etc.), fashion, human behavior


ABOUT MOTOROLA

Motorola is one of the world?s leading providers of wireless
communications,
semiconductors and advanced electronic systems, components and services.
Major equipment businesses include cellular telephone, two-way radio,
paging
and data communications, personal communications, automotive, defense,
space
electronics, computers and many other products. Motorola?s  
Communications
Enterprise, Fort Lauderdale, designs, manufactures and distributes  
analog
and digital two-way radio products and systems for applications  
worldwide.
Visit http://www.mot.com for more information.


ABOUT FORT LAUDERDALE

Fort Lauderdale is located on Florida?s south-east coast, north of  
Miami.
Year round outdoor recreational activities are a way of life in this
region.
Visit  http://fortlauderdalefl.metatiki.com for more information.

If you think you can rise to the challenge of delivering truly  
sensational
user-interfaces then we would like to hear from you. Please send your
curriculum vitae or resume, a statement of intent, and the names and
contact
details of three referees.  If you were to be short listed for an
interview
you will be required to present your portfolio, including interactive
multimedia work samples.

Bert Van Der Zaag
Interaction Design Manager
Design Integration
Motorola Inc.
8000 W. Sunrise Blvd., MD 11-9G5
Plantation, FL 33322.  USA

Tel: (954) 723-3657
e-mail:  bert@motorola.com

MOTOROLA offers excellent salary, benefits, and relocation assistance.
MOTOROLA encourages diversity in the workplace and is an Equal
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From: jen@jenlevin.net
Date: September 27, 2005 1:41:24 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: JOB: Interaction Designer, Motorola
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>



Hi List,
this is actually my old position. Feel free to email me if anyone is  
interested in applying. I can give
you the lowdown.
regards,
Jen Levin






"Christina T. Goodness" <goodness@nyu.edu> said:

> INTERACTION DESIGNER
> MOTOROLA INC.
>
> Motorola, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, has a permanent, full-time  
> opportunity
> available for an Interaction Designer.
>
> We are in need of a world-class interaction designer to design  
> innovative
> next generation user-interfaces for wireless and mobile devices. The
> majority of the interaction design work will be centered on wireless
> communication products?cell phones, two-way radios, etc.
>
> Qualifications and Experience
>
> - An advanced degree in Human-Computer Interaction, Interaction  
> Design,
> User
> Interface Design or similar relevant topic.
> - Demonstrable expertise with multimedia prototyping tools.
> - An understanding of human factors issues or the behavioral sciences
> (demonstrable by training or course-work) will be an advantage.
> - Work experience may include UI development for wireless/mobile  
> devices
> and
> PC/MAC/Internet applications.
> - Some experience in the realm of speech-based user-interfaces will  
> be an
> advantage.
>
> Responsibilities and Skills
>
> - Translate abstract concepts and ideas - from information obtained  
> from
> customer research - into low fidelity prototypes (e.g., hand-drawn
> sketches,
> PowerPoint simulations) and progressively develop them into high- 
> fidelity
> Macromedia Director (and similar) prototypes.
> - Assist in iterative usability testing of your prototypes  
> throughout the
> development cycle
> - Be self-motivating and take leadership and ownership of the  
> design and
> development of the user interface.
> - Integrate effectively into a multidisciplinary group that  
> includes human
> factors specialists, cognitive and behavioral scientists, interaction
> designers, industrial designers, and deliver to strict deadlines in  
> a fast
> paced environment.
>
> Other Requirements
>
> - Excellent verbal, written, artistic and graphical communication  
> skills
> - Allied interests in any one or more of the following: art, design,
> sketching, interactive-technology (games etc.), fashion, human  
> behavior
>
>
> ABOUT MOTOROLA
>
> Motorola is one of the world?s leading providers of wireless
> communications,
> semiconductors and advanced electronic systems, components and  
> services.
> Major equipment businesses include cellular telephone, two-way radio,
> paging
> and data communications, personal communications, automotive, defense,
> space
> electronics, computers and many other products. Motorola?s  
> Communications
> Enterprise, Fort Lauderdale, designs, manufactures and distributes  
> analog
> and digital two-way radio products and systems for applications  
> worldwide.
> Visit http://www.mot.com for more information.
>
>
> ABOUT FORT LAUDERDALE
>
> Fort Lauderdale is located on Florida?s south-east coast, north of  
> Miami.
> Year round outdoor recreational activities are a way of life in this
> region.
> Visit  http://fortlauderdalefl.metatiki.com for more information.
>
> If you think you can rise to the challenge of delivering truly  
> sensational
> user-interfaces then we would like to hear from you. Please send your
> curriculum vitae or resume, a statement of intent, and the names and
> contact
> details of three referees.  If you were to be short listed for an
> interview
> you will be required to present your portfolio, including interactive
> multimedia work samples.
>
> Bert Van Der Zaag
> Interaction Design Manager
> Design Integration
> Motorola Inc.
> 8000 W. Sunrise Blvd., MD 11-9G5
> Plantation, FL 33322.  USA
>
> Tel: (954) 723-3657
> e-mail:  bert@motorola.com
>
> MOTOROLA offers excellent salary, benefits, and relocation assistance.
> MOTOROLA encourages diversity in the workplace and is an Equal
> Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer, M/F/HDCP
>
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From: jen@jenlevin.net
Date: September 27, 2005 1:41:26 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: JOB: Interaction Designer, Motorola
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>



Hi List,
this is actually my old position. Feel free to email me if anyone is  
interested in applying. I can give
you the lowdown.
regards,
Jen Levin






"Christina T. Goodness" <goodness@nyu.edu> said:

> INTERACTION DESIGNER
> MOTOROLA INC.
>
> Motorola, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, has a permanent, full-time  
> opportunity
> available for an Interaction Designer.
>
> We are in need of a world-class interaction designer to design  
> innovative
> next generation user-interfaces for wireless and mobile devices. The
> majority of the interaction design work will be centered on wireless
> communication products?cell phones, two-way radios, etc.
>
> Qualifications and Experience
>
> - An advanced degree in Human-Computer Interaction, Interaction  
> Design,
> User
> Interface Design or similar relevant topic.
> - Demonstrable expertise with multimedia prototyping tools.
> - An understanding of human factors issues or the behavioral sciences
> (demonstrable by training or course-work) will be an advantage.
> - Work experience may include UI development for wireless/mobile  
> devices
> and
> PC/MAC/Internet applications.
> - Some experience in the realm of speech-based user-interfaces will  
> be an
> advantage.
>
> Responsibilities and Skills
>
> - Translate abstract concepts and ideas - from information obtained  
> from
> customer research - into low fidelity prototypes (e.g., hand-drawn
> sketches,
> PowerPoint simulations) and progressively develop them into high- 
> fidelity
> Macromedia Director (and similar) prototypes.
> - Assist in iterative usability testing of your prototypes  
> throughout the
> development cycle
> - Be self-motivating and take leadership and ownership of the  
> design and
> development of the user interface.
> - Integrate effectively into a multidisciplinary group that  
> includes human
> factors specialists, cognitive and behavioral scientists, interaction
> designers, industrial designers, and deliver to strict deadlines in  
> a fast
> paced environment.
>
> Other Requirements
>
> - Excellent verbal, written, artistic and graphical communication  
> skills
> - Allied interests in any one or more of the following: art, design,
> sketching, interactive-technology (games etc.), fashion, human  
> behavior
>
>
> ABOUT MOTOROLA
>
> Motorola is one of the world?s leading providers of wireless
> communications,
> semiconductors and advanced electronic systems, components and  
> services.
> Major equipment businesses include cellular telephone, two-way radio,
> paging
> and data communications, personal communications, automotive, defense,
> space
> electronics, computers and many other products. Motorola?s  
> Communications
> Enterprise, Fort Lauderdale, designs, manufactures and distributes  
> analog
> and digital two-way radio products and systems for applications  
> worldwide.
> Visit http://www.mot.com for more information.
>
>
> ABOUT FORT LAUDERDALE
>
> Fort Lauderdale is located on Florida?s south-east coast, north of  
> Miami.
> Year round outdoor recreational activities are a way of life in this
> region.
> Visit  http://fortlauderdalefl.metatiki.com for more information.
>
> If you think you can rise to the challenge of delivering truly  
> sensational
> user-interfaces then we would like to hear from you. Please send your
> curriculum vitae or resume, a statement of intent, and the names and
> contact
> details of three referees.  If you were to be short listed for an
> interview
> you will be required to present your portfolio, including interactive
> multimedia work samples.
>
> Bert Van Der Zaag
> Interaction Design Manager
> Design Integration
> Motorola Inc.
> 8000 W. Sunrise Blvd., MD 11-9G5
> Plantation, FL 33322.  USA
>
> Tel: (954) 723-3657
> e-mail:  bert@motorola.com
>
> MOTOROLA offers excellent salary, benefits, and relocation assistance.
> MOTOROLA encourages diversity in the workplace and is an Equal
> Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer, M/F/HDCP
>
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From: Dana Kurtin <dk406@nyu.edu>
Date: September 29, 2005 12:51:37 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: JOB: Interaction Designer, Motorola
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Hi Jen!!!!  How are you?  Are you no longer in Florida?  Wassup,
girl?  Tell me all your details!
xxoo

----- Original Message -----
From: jen@jenlevin.net
Date: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: JOB: Interaction Designer, Motorola

>
>
> Hi List,
> this is actually my old position. Feel free to email me if anyone
> is interested in applying. I can give
> you the lowdown.
> regards,
> Jen Levin
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Christina T. Goodness" <goodness@nyu.edu> said:
>
>> INTERACTION DESIGNER
>> MOTOROLA INC.
>>
>> Motorola, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, has a permanent, full-time
> opportunity> available for an Interaction Designer.
>>
>> We are in need of a world-class interaction designer to design
> innovative> next generation user-interfaces for wireless and
> mobile devices. The
>> majority of the interaction design work will be centered on
wireless
>> communication productscell phones, two-way radios, etc.
>>
>> Qualifications and Experience
>>
>> - An advanced degree in Human-Computer Interaction, Interaction
> Design,> User
>> Interface Design or similar relevant topic.
>> - Demonstrable expertise with multimedia prototyping tools.
>> - An understanding of human factors issues or the behavioral
> sciences> (demonstrable by training or course-work) will be an
> advantage.> - Work experience may include UI development for
> wireless/mobile devices
>> and
>> PC/MAC/Internet applications.
>> - Some experience in the realm of speech-based user-interfaces
> will be an
>> advantage.
>>
>> Responsibilities and Skills
>>
>> - Translate abstract concepts and ideas - from information
> obtained from
>> customer research - into low fidelity prototypes (e.g., hand-drawn
>> sketches,
>> PowerPoint simulations) and progressively develop them into high-
> fidelity> Macromedia Director (and similar) prototypes.
>> - Assist in iterative usability testing of your prototypes
> throughout the
>> development cycle
>> - Be self-motivating and take leadership and ownership of the
> design and
>> development of the user interface.
>> - Integrate effectively into a multidisciplinary group that
> includes human
>> factors specialists, cognitive and behavioral scientists,
> interaction> designers, industrial designers, and deliver to
> strict deadlines in a fast
>> paced environment.
>>
>> Other Requirements
>>
>> - Excellent verbal, written, artistic and graphical
> communication skills
>> - Allied interests in any one or more of the following: art,
design,
>> sketching, interactive-technology (games etc.), fashion, human
> behavior>
>>
>> ABOUT MOTOROLA
>>
>> Motorola is one of the worlds leading providers of wireless
>> communications,
>> semiconductors and advanced electronic systems, components and
> services.> Major equipment businesses include cellular telephone,
> two-way radio,
>> paging
>> and data communications, personal communications, automotive,
> defense,> space
>> electronics, computers and many other products. Motorolas
> Communications> Enterprise, Fort Lauderdale, designs, manufactures
> and distributes analog
>> and digital two-way radio products and systems for applications
> worldwide.> Visit http://www.mot.com for more information.
>>
>>
>> ABOUT FORT LAUDERDALE
>>
>> Fort Lauderdale is located on Floridas south-east coast, north
> of Miami.
>> Year round outdoor recreational activities are a way of life in
this
>> region.
>> Visit  http://fortlauderdalefl.metatiki.com for more information.
>>
>> If you think you can rise to the challenge of delivering truly
> sensational> user-interfaces then we would like to hear from you.
> Please send your
>> curriculum vitae or resume, a statement of intent, and the names
and
>> contact
>> details of three referees.  If you were to be short listed for an
>> interview
>> you will be required to present your portfolio, including
> interactive> multimedia work samples.
>>
>> Bert Van Der Zaag
>> Interaction Design Manager
>> Design Integration
>> Motorola Inc.
>> 8000 W. Sunrise Blvd., MD 11-9G5
>> Plantation, FL 33322.  USA
>>
>> Tel: (954) 723-3657
>> e-mail:  bert@motorola.com
>>
>> MOTOROLA offers excellent salary, benefits, and relocation
> assistance.> MOTOROLA encourages diversity in the workplace and is
> an Equal
>> Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer, M/F/HDCP
>>
>> ---
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>> To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%%
>>
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From: Dana Kurtin <dk406@nyu.edu>
Date: September 29, 2005 12:53:55 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Cc: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: JOB: Interaction Designer, Motorola
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Wo!  Whoops!  Sent to entire list... uh.... hi to everyone!

----- Original Message -----
From: Dana Kurtin <dk406@nyu.edu>
Date: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:51 pm
Subject: Re: JOB: Interaction Designer, Motorola

> Hi Jen!!!!  How are you?  Are you no longer in Florida?  Wassup,
> girl?  Tell me all your details!
> xxoo
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jen@jenlevin.net
> Date: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:41 pm
> Subject: Re: JOB: Interaction Designer, Motorola
>
>>
>>
>> Hi List,
>> this is actually my old position. Feel free to email me if
> anyone
>> is interested in applying. I can give
>> you the lowdown.
>> regards,
>> Jen Levin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Christina T. Goodness" <goodness@nyu.edu> said:
>>
>>> INTERACTION DESIGNER
>>> MOTOROLA INC.
>>>
>>> Motorola, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, has a permanent, full-time
>> opportunity> available for an Interaction Designer.
>>>
>>> We are in need of a world-class interaction designer to design
>> innovative> next generation user-interfaces for wireless and
>> mobile devices. The
>>> majority of the interaction design work will be centered on
> wireless
>>> communication productscell phones, two-way radios, etc.
>>>
>>> Qualifications and Experience
>>>
>>> - An advanced degree in Human-Computer Interaction,
> Interaction
>> Design,> User
>>> Interface Design or similar relevant topic.
>>> - Demonstrable expertise with multimedia prototyping tools.
>>> - An understanding of human factors issues or the behavioral
>> sciences> (demonstrable by training or course-work) will be an
>> advantage.> - Work experience may include UI development for
>> wireless/mobile devices
>>> and
>>> PC/MAC/Internet applications.
>>> - Some experience in the realm of speech-based user-interfaces
>> will be an
>>> advantage.
>>>
>>> Responsibilities and Skills
>>>
>>> - Translate abstract concepts and ideas - from information
>> obtained from
>>> customer research - into low fidelity prototypes (e.g., hand-
drawn
>>> sketches,
>>> PowerPoint simulations) and progressively develop them into
> high-
>> fidelity> Macromedia Director (and similar) prototypes.
>>> - Assist in iterative usability testing of your prototypes
>> throughout the
>>> development cycle
>>> - Be self-motivating and take leadership and ownership of the
>> design and
>>> development of the user interface.
>>> - Integrate effectively into a multidisciplinary group that
>> includes human
>>> factors specialists, cognitive and behavioral scientists,
>> interaction> designers, industrial designers, and deliver to
>> strict deadlines in a fast
>>> paced environment.
>>>
>>> Other Requirements
>>>
>>> - Excellent verbal, written, artistic and graphical
>> communication skills
>>> - Allied interests in any one or more of the following: art,
> design,
>>> sketching, interactive-technology (games etc.), fashion, human
>> behavior>
>>>
>>> ABOUT MOTOROLA
>>>
>>> Motorola is one of the worlds leading providers of wireless
>>> communications,
>>> semiconductors and advanced electronic systems, components and
>> services.> Major equipment businesses include cellular
> telephone,
>> two-way radio,
>>> paging
>>> and data communications, personal communications, automotive,
>> defense,> space
>>> electronics, computers and many other products. Motorolas
>> Communications> Enterprise, Fort Lauderdale, designs,
> manufactures
>> and distributes analog
>>> and digital two-way radio products and systems for
> applications
>> worldwide.> Visit http://www.mot.com for more information.
>>>
>>>
>>> ABOUT FORT LAUDERDALE
>>>
>>> Fort Lauderdale is located on Floridas south-east coast,
> north
>> of Miami.
>>> Year round outdoor recreational activities are a way of life
> in
> this
>>> region.
>>> Visit  http://fortlauderdalefl.metatiki.com for more information.
>>>
>>> If you think you can rise to the challenge of delivering truly
>> sensational> user-interfaces then we would like to hear from
> you.
>> Please send your
>>> curriculum vitae or resume, a statement of intent, and the
> names
> and
>>> contact
>>> details of three referees.  If you were to be short listed for an
>>> interview
>>> you will be required to present your portfolio, including
>> interactive> multimedia work samples.
>>>
>>> Bert Van Der Zaag
>>> Interaction Design Manager
>>> Design Integration
>>> Motorola Inc.
>>> 8000 W. Sunrise Blvd., MD 11-9G5
>>> Plantation, FL 33322.  USA
>>>
>>> Tel: (954) 723-3657
>>> e-mail:  bert@motorola.com
>>>
>>> MOTOROLA offers excellent salary, benefits, and relocation
>> assistance.> MOTOROLA encourages diversity in the workplace and
> is
>> an Equal
>>> Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer, M/F/HDCP
>>>
>>> ---
>>> You are currently subscribed to itp-alumni as: jen@jenlevin.net
>>> To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%%
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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From: Raymond L Cha <rlc223@nyu.edu>
Date: September 27, 2005 12:56:18 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: milling / cnc
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>


how anyone worked will anyone who will small run milling / cnc  
production?


thanks.


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From: "Andrew G. Milmoe" <andrew@milmoe.com>
Date: September 27, 2005 5:42:27 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: milling / cnc
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Wow that's quite a sentence... I think you are looking for a company  
with a milling machine.

These guys are excellent, but often busy:
http://www.paralleldevelopment.net

-Milmoe

On Sep 27, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Raymond L Cha wrote:

>
> how anyone worked will anyone who will small run milling / cnc  
> production?
>
>
> thanks.
>
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From: Jake Barton <jakebarton1@gmail.com>
Date: September 29, 2005 1:04:42 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: milling / cnc
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

I use these guys, and like them quite a bit:

Scenicorp
Randy Alexander
Milling Routing Computer
(718) 237-5333
graphics@scenicorp.com

On 9/27/05, Andrew G. Milmoe <andrew@milmoe.com > wrote:
Wow that's quite a sentence... I think you are looking for a company
with a milling machine.

These guys are excellent, but often busy:
http://www.paralleldevelopment.net

-Milmoe

On Sep 27, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Raymond L Cha wrote:

 >
 > how anyone worked will anyone who will small run milling / cnc
 > production?
 >
 >
 > thanks.
 >
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itp-alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Jeffrey E Galusha  
<jg1084@nyu.edu>
Date: September 29, 2005 1:24:39 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Online Store
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Dear all,

A friend of mine is looking to create an online store for a rather large
company.  Please send me any suggestions of companies or groups to build
this sort of thing.  RGA is aparently booked solid.

Jeffrey

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From: ann poochareon <itp@miserychick.net>
Date: September 29, 2005 11:10:30 AM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: movable type question... (auto linking url)
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

hi there awesome listies

so i've been looking for this for a while, and now it's getting  
really annoying... i can't seem to find a plug-in or some kind of  
trick that would allow for automatic linking of URLs in blog posts...  
i think i'm googling for the wrong thing, but i don't know what a  
feature like this might be called.

basically, i want to be able to type the url and when it's posted, MT  
figures out that it should put the <a href > tag around it.

b/c you can do the same in wordpress, and it's just a matter of  
regular expression parsing (though, i'd rather not sit here and  
figure it out myself, i'm too busy blogging)...

anyone know?

thanks!
ann

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From: phoebe <phoebe@nyu.edu>
Date: September 29, 2005 12:09:32 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: movable type question... (auto linking url)
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Might be different depending on what version of MT you're using but  
that can be set either set that through the cfg file itself or  
through your admin panel under configuration > preferences > comment  
configuration.

-p


On Sep 29, 2005, at 11:10 AM, ann poochareon wrote:

> hi there awesome listies
>
> so i've been looking for this for a while, and now it's getting  
> really annoying... i can't seem to find a plug-in or some kind of  
> trick that would allow for automatic linking of URLs in blog  
> posts... i think i'm googling for the wrong thing, but i don't know  
> what a feature like this might be called.
>
> basically, i want to be able to type the url and when it's posted,  
> MT figures out that it should put the <a href > tag around it.
>
> b/c you can do the same in wordpress, and it's just a matter of  
> regular expression parsing (though, i'd rather not sit here and  
> figure it out myself, i'm too busy blogging)...
>
> anyone know?
>
> thanks!
> ann
>
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From: ann poochareon <itp@miserychick.net>
Date: September 29, 2005 1:30:46 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: movable type question... (auto linking url)
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

that's set (auto link url is checked), but it's only for the  
comments... can i not set it for the blog post themselves?

i'm using 3.2, the brand spanking new version

-ann

On Sep 29, 2005, at 6:09 PM, phoebe wrote:

> Might be different depending on what version of MT you're using but  
> that can be set either set that through the cfg file itself or  
> through your admin panel under configuration > preferences >  
> comment configuration.
>
> -p
>
>
> On Sep 29, 2005, at 11:10 AM, ann poochareon wrote:
>
>
>> hi there awesome listies
>>
>> so i've been looking for this for a while, and now it's getting  
>> really annoying... i can't seem to find a plug-in or some kind of  
>> trick that would allow for automatic linking of URLs in blog  
>> posts... i think i'm googling for the wrong thing, but i don't  
>> know what a feature like this might be called.
>>
>> basically, i want to be able to type the url and when it's posted,  
>> MT figures out that it should put the <a href > tag around it.
>>
>> b/c you can do the same in wordpress, and it's just a matter of  
>> regular expression parsing (though, i'd rather not sit here and  
>> figure it out myself, i'm too busy blogging)...
>>
>> anyone know?
>>
>> thanks!
>> ann
>>
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From: phoebe <phoebe@nyu.edu>
Date: September 29, 2005 1:54:24 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: movable type question... (auto linking url)
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Oh, for entries! No that's not a built-in feature. Maybe this might  
help?
http://kalsey.com/2004/08/autolink_urls_in_mt_entries/

-p


On Sep 29, 2005, at 1:30 PM, ann poochareon wrote:

> that's set (auto link url is checked), but it's only for the  
> comments... can i not set it for the blog post themselves?
>
> i'm using 3.2, the brand spanking new version
>
> -ann
>
> On Sep 29, 2005, at 6:09 PM, phoebe wrote:
>
>> Might be different depending on what version of MT you're using  
>> but that can be set either set that through the cfg file itself or  
>> through your admin panel under configuration > preferences >  
>> comment configuration.
>>
>> -p
>>
>>
>> On Sep 29, 2005, at 11:10 AM, ann poochareon wrote:
>>
>>
>>> hi there awesome listies
>>>
>>> so i've been looking for this for a while, and now it's getting  
>>> really annoying... i can't seem to find a plug-in or some kind of  
>>> trick that would allow for automatic linking of URLs in blog  
>>> posts... i think i'm googling for the wrong thing, but i don't  
>>> know what a feature like this might be called.
>>>
>>> basically, i want to be able to type the url and when it's  
>>> posted, MT figures out that it should put the <a href > tag  
>>> around it.
>>>
>>> b/c you can do the same in wordpress, and it's just a matter of  
>>> regular expression parsing (though, i'd rather not sit here and  
>>> figure it out myself, i'm too busy blogging)...
>>>
>>> anyone know?
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>> ann
>>>
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From: Eric Fixler <fix@fixler.com>
Date: September 29, 2005 1:47:32 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: List of Hooked-up Republicans who got good jobs?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Does anyone know of a website where I could find a reasonably  
comprehensive listing of Republican donors and the like who were  
rewarded with high - power jobs?  (Like Michael Brown, Cheryl  
Halpern, etc?)

thanks!
eric



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From: Lian Chang <ex@diametrik.net>
Date: September 29, 2005 2:50:53 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: List of Hooked-up Republicans who got good jobs?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

How Many More Mike Browns Are Out There?

A TIME inquiry finds that at top positions in some vital government
agencies, the Bush Administration is putting connections before  
experience
By MARK THOMPSON, KAREN TUMULTY, MIKE ALLEN / WASHINGTON

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1109345,00.html



> Does anyone know of a website where I could find a reasonably
> comprehensive listing of Republican donors and the like who were
> rewarded with high - power jobs?  (Like Michael Brown, Cheryl
> Halpern, etc?)
>
> thanks!
> eric
>
>
>
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From: Lian Chang <ex@diametrik.net>
Date: September 29, 2005 2:50:53 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: List of Hooked-up Republicans who got good jobs?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

How Many More Mike Browns Are Out There?

A TIME inquiry finds that at top positions in some vital government
agencies, the Bush Administration is putting connections before  
experience
By MARK THOMPSON, KAREN TUMULTY, MIKE ALLEN / WASHINGTON

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1109345,00.html



> Does anyone know of a website where I could find a reasonably
> comprehensive listing of Republican donors and the like who were
> rewarded with high - power jobs?  (Like Michael Brown, Cheryl
> Halpern, etc?)
>
> thanks!
> eric
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Eric Fixler
> fix@fixler.com
> AIM: efixler@mac.com
>
>
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From: Eric Fixler <fix@fixler.com>
Date: September 29, 2005 2:57:34 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: List of Hooked-up Republicans who got good jobs?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Thanks!
eric



On Sep 29, 2005, at 11:50 AM, Lian Chang wrote:

> How Many More Mike Browns Are Out There?
>
> A TIME inquiry finds that at top positions in some vital government
> agencies, the Bush Administration is putting connections before  
> experience
> By MARK THOMPSON, KAREN TUMULTY, MIKE ALLEN / WASHINGTON
>
> http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1109345,00.html
>
>

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From: Vica Vinogradova <vica@ladno.com>
Date: September 29, 2005 3:40:11 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Cc: iraniki@hotmail.com, dataart.ny@dataart.com
Subject: dog sitter (live-in) needed for 10 days in TriBeCa (or  
Catskills)
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

Good people

My good friend (and my amazing dentist) Dr. Fred Solomon is going  
paragliding to Turkey October 5-15, and needs a live-in dog sitter  
for that period.
If
-you love dogs
- work in the city (or free-lance remotely)
- can walk and feed dogs as instructed
- and dont mind spending ten days either in his gorgeous loft in  
Tribeca http://www.tribecasmiles.com/ or in the cliff house in  
catskills http://magus.spb.ru/photos/FredSolomon-June2003/pic%20023.jpg

Then
 this is a great opportunity to live in great digs  
while helping a great person.

Id do it  but my husband and two dogs might not like it. J The  
dogs are here http://www.tribecasmiles.com/freshening.html 

All details  please call Danielle, Freds girlfriend at  
908-531-3631. Mention my name

ONLY SERIOUS AND RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE PLEASE. We are talking lives here. J

Thanks
Vica
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alumni-1676867C@forums.nyu.eduFrom: Sasha Harris-Cronin  
<sasha@mortalspaces.com>
Date: September 29, 2005 4:25:06 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Seeking interesting stuff to show at robonexus
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>



----- Forwarded message from michael@michaelshiloh.com -----
     Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:50:58 -0700 (PDT)
     From: michael@michaelshiloh.com
Reply-To: michael@michaelshiloh.com
  Subject: [dorkbotsf-blabber] Seeking interesting stuff to show at  
robonexus
       To: dorkbotsf-blabber@dorkbot.org

One of my friends is helping organize at Robonexus, and as a result, the
Robotics Society of America has a large booth at the convention. The RSA
is extending an invition to anyone who would like to show their work to
do so at the RSA booth.

Although the theme is robotics, it is pretty broadly defined, and I
think that many of the interesting projects I've seen in this group
would be well received at Robonexus.

Please contact Simone directly if you have any questions:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Simone, Gal Friday" <simone@qbox.org>


The Robotics Society of America is working with Robonexus again this  
year
(http://www.robonexus.com) for the Robonexus Conference on October  
6-9th.  They
have given us a HUGE space which we would like to fill with interesting
robotics
projects and the people who build them.

Participants will get free convention passes and a nicely placed  
booth space
right in the middle of the convention floor. The event is held at The  
San Jose
Convention Center, and it is one of the largest industrial and  
amateur robotics
events in the country. We would like all types of projects, finished and
unfinished.  We are looking for everyone from the university-sponsored
autonomous vehicle to the cobbled-together mad-scientist special.

The event if free of chjarge for exhibitors. Please contact Simone at
Simone@robotics-society.org if you are interested.

........................................................................
.........dorkbot: people doing strange things with electricity..........
..........................http://dorkbot.org............................
........................................................................



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From: Sasha Harris-Cronin <sasha@mortalspaces.com>
Date: September 29, 2005 4:59:13 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: interview with joss and neil
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

This is cool...

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1109313-1,00.html

sash.

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From: Roxana Hadad <roxana@roxanahadad.com>
Date: September 29, 2005 3:07:37 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: best. editing. ever.
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

http://www.ps260.com/molly/SHINING%20FINAL.mov

(little bit of a download time, but worth it, imho)

--
r o x a n a   h a d a d
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From: davila@media-matters.net
Date: September 29, 2005 3:37:34 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: best. editing. ever.
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

(Negative function)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhadad@gmail.com [mailto:rhadad@gmail.com] On Behalf Of  
> Roxana Hadad
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 3:08 PM
> To: ITP Alumni
> Subject: best. editing. ever.
>
> http://www.ps260.com/molly/SHINING%20FINAL.mov
>
> (little bit of a download time, but worth it, imho)
>
> --
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From: davila@media-matters.net
Date: September 29, 2005 4:05:02 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: RE: best. editing. ever.
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

(Positive function!)

I guess all of ITP looked at the same time.

Dvila


> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: RE: best. editing. ever.
>
> (Negative function)
>
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>> From: rhadad@gmail.com [mailto:rhadad@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Roxana
Hadad
>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 3:08 PM
>> To: ITP Alumni
>> Subject: best. editing. ever.
>>
>> http://www.ps260.com/molly/SHINING%20FINAL.mov
>>
>> (little bit of a download time, but worth it, imho)
>>
>> --
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From: Shawn Van Every <itp-alumni@walking-productions.com>
Date: September 29, 2005 7:00:46 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: best. editing. ever.
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

the itp-alumni effect..  hmmmn..

On Sep 29, 2005, at 4:05 PM, <davila@media-matters.net> <davila@media- 
matters.net> wrote:

> (Positive function!)
>
> I guess all of ITP looked at the same time.
>
> Dvila
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: R. Justin Dvila [mailto:justin@media-matters.net] On Behalf  
>> Of
>>
> davila@media-
>
>> matters.net
>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 3:38 PM
>> To: ITP Alumni
>> Subject: RE: best. editing. ever.
>>
>> (Negative function)
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhadad@gmail.com [mailto:rhadad@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Roxana
>>>
> Hadad
>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 3:08 PM
>>> To: ITP Alumni
>>> Subject: best. editing. ever.
>>>
>>> http://www.ps260.com/molly/SHINING%20FINAL.mov
>>>
>>> (little bit of a download time, but worth it, imho)
>>>
>>> --
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From: "evan.raskob" <lists@lowfrequency.org>
Date: September 29, 2005 9:33:59 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: brooklyn real estate?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

hi listers,

now that i know where to find a good shirt,  i find myself and my  
very-significant other needing a new place this coming Dec/January.   
much as we love roosevelt island, we're a little tired of living in a  
place with one restaurant and only two choices for food delivery  
services.  i bet there's some great brooklyn real estate blog or  
website out there, with some nice and cheap, low-hanging-fruit of an  
apartment just waiting for the two of us.  um... i hope there is.   
does anyone know of anything (besides craigslist, of course) that  
fits the bill?? we're looking to rent, most likely, unless there's a  
good deal out there to buy.  any good tips?

thanks,
-ev

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From: "evan.raskob" <lists@lowfrequency.org>
Date: September 29, 2005 9:35:21 PM EDT
To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>
Subject: IndiePix?
Reply-To: ITP Alumni <itp-alumni@forums.nyu.edu>

This sounded interesting (but the website doesn't appear to be all  
built yet):


Begin forwarded message:

> =====================================================================
> Tisch alum at IndiePix
>
> I'm the new accounts manager at Indie Pix, (www.indiepix.net), which
> distributes student, short, feature and documentary work of all  
> stripes
> alongside well known indies ("Motorcycle Diaries", "Demonlover",  
> etc). If
> Tisch filmmakers don't have access to DVD manufacturing, we also have
> manufacturing capabilities. Filmmakers keep 80% of all sales of their
> film; it's promoted online and through festivals.
>
> They should contact me at jordan@indiepix.net. I'm a Tisch alum  
> 2003 (Film
> & TV).
>
> Best,
> Jordan Mattos


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